[Vo]:Global Warning

2007-04-22 Thread Jeff Fink
The headline in my newspaper of Saturday Feb. 3, 2007 said, “GLOBAL WARNING- If nothing is done to combat greenhouse gases, extreme weather could kill 1 million people by 2100… I am greatly concerned about the “global warming hysteria” that is being foisted upon the public. I recall a news

Re: [Vo]:Global Warning

2007-04-22 Thread John Berry
It is already far warmer that it has been for an extremely long time, not 500 years. I can't be bothered reading the rest of your ignorant post but if you don't realize that the weather is warming up your a fool/idiot. That warming 500-1000 years ago is a blip compared to this. On 4/22/07, Jeff

Re: [VO]:Global warning caused by humanity-- now factually based.

2007-04-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On 4/22/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jones Beene wrote: Enjoy you(r) rapturous stay in the NeoCon wing of the Matrix Kokopelli rules ;-) What does that mean? The trickster rules: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokopelli Terry (wishing he had a detachable penis)

Re: [Vo]:Global Warning

2007-04-22 Thread Paul Lowrance
I don't see the logic in a lot of your words. You assume that because the Sun is part of the cause that humanity has somehow done nothing. That's not true. What you said is well known and is openly discussed amongst climate scientists, including Dr. Brenda. Sorry, I'll side with the mass

Re: [Vo]:Global Warning

2007-04-22 Thread John Berry
On 4/23/07, Kyle R. Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That warming 500-1000 years ago is a blip compared to this. Numbers to support this please. --Kyle Watch An Inconvenient Truth, there is a chart that addresses this.

Re: [Vo]:Global Warning

2007-04-22 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
The warming 500 - 1000 years ago is a blip compared to what, exactly? P. - Original Message From: John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Global Warning On 4/23/07, Kyle R. Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Global Warning

2007-04-22 Thread Paul Lowrance
Jeff Fink wrote: It means that 500 years ago it was warmer, and that human activity had nothing to do with it! It is well known to some historians that the period from 900 to 1100 AD was also warmer than today by about three degrees, and human activity had nothing to do with that either! I

Re: [VO]:Re: Global warming

2007-04-22 Thread John Berry
On 4/23/07, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now speaking of mammoths being frozen in Siberia.. shucks , we have politicians in office in Texas... well.. err.. nevermind.. you wouldn't believe it. Richard I hate a mystery, finish your thought.

Re: [Vo]:Global Warning

2007-04-22 Thread John Berry
http://journal.copernicus.org/en/images/stories/film_reviews/ice_age2/ipcc_temp_past1000years2.jpghotter than the last 1,000 years http://www.grida.no/climate/vital/graphics/large/2.jpg co2 and temperature linked http://cosmicvariance.com/wp-images/CO2.png CO2 waaay up You can't rule out data

Re: [Vo]:Global Warning

2007-04-22 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
Not only that, but Jeff didn't deny that global warming wasn't happening (although that in itself is questionable - if we're allowed to question the sacred GW Scriptures); he was simply saying that the evidence (evidence, mind you) is that global warming has happened before and will happen

Re: [VO]:Re: Global warming

2007-04-22 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
Richard, I bet you were going to tell us that the green stuff in their mouths isn't tropical vegetation... P. - Original Message From: R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:14:16 AM Subject: [VO]:Re: Global warming Blank BODY {

Re: [VO]:Global warning caused by humanity is NOW 'Unequivocal'

2007-04-22 Thread Paul Lowrance
Evidence For Human-caused Global Warming Is Now 'Unequivocal' February 2, 2007 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070202085036.htm Global effects: http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au/images/EnergyUsage200Years.JPG http://securingamerica.com/ccn/files/community/science_1.1.1.jpg

Re: [Vo]:The Rebirth of the Steamer?

2007-04-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Despite some recent assertions, the battery-electric car, the plug-in Prius, so to speak - will not make much of a dent in net carbon emissions without a huge nuclear investment . . . That is incorrect. There is a huge unused generating capacity at night -- more than enough

[VO]:Re: Global warming

2007-04-22 Thread R.C.Macaulay
BlankJohn Berry wrote.. It is already far warmer that it has been for an extremely long time, not 500 years. I can't be bothered reading the rest of your ignorant post but if you don't realize that the weather is warming up your a fool/idiot. Howdy John, You may propose a solution to your

Re: [Vo]:Global Warning

2007-04-22 Thread Kyle R. Mcallister
- Original Message - From: John Berry To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Global Warning It is already far warmer that it has been for an extremely long time, not 500 years. I can't be bothered reading the rest of your ignorant post but if

Re: [Vo]:The Rebirth of the Steamer?

2007-04-22 Thread Jones Beene
--- Jed Rothwell wrote: That is incorrect. There is a huge unused generating capacity at night -- more than enough to charge up electric cars. Capacity is not the problem. CO2 is still emitted at night. Furthermore, electric power generation and electric cars are far much efficient than

Re: [Vo]:The Rebirth of the Steamer?

2007-04-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: That is incorrect. There is a huge unused generating capacity at night -- more than enough to charge up electric cars. Capacity is not the problem. CO2 is still emitted at night. But as I said, only half of the generators are coal. The others are gas which is as much as

[Vo]:Most efficient small diesel ?

2007-04-22 Thread Jones Beene
A google search for the most efficient production diesel turns up many candidates overseas, but zero made in the USA. Ours are typically larger V8 designs of over 5 liters, used in trucks Among the best is a 35 year old engine design. The Peugeot 205 diesel (1.9 liter) of one respondent to a

[Vo]:Googles Earth day icon

2007-04-22 Thread Paul Lowrance
Google as usual has a cool icon. Today's Earth day. See the attached image to this post or just go to http://google.com today Paul Lowrance

Re: [Vo]:The Rebirth of the Steamer?

2007-04-22 Thread Jones Beene
--- Jed Rothwell wrote: The others are gas [natural gas] which is as much as 60% efficient and can be built close to cities... That number would only happen with co-genration, but - OK - lets assume that it is just as accurate as the estimate for the Crower 6-cycle. Even so - when you send

[Vo]:Induction Heating of Earth

2007-04-22 Thread Michael Foster
Here is a concise description of the amount of solar radiation received by the earth from the sun. These are figures most vorts are probably familiar with. http://home.iprimus.com.au/nielsens/solrad.html A short quote from this site: The energy intercepted by the Earth over a period of one

Re: [Vo]:The Rebirth of the Steamer?

2007-04-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: The others are gas [natural gas] which is as much as 60% efficient and can be built close to cities... That number would only happen with co-genration . . . That is combined cycle, not co-gen. With co-gen you can get 80% or 90%, depending on the location and time of year.

Re: [Vo]:The Rebirth of the Steamer?

2007-04-22 Thread Jones Beene
--- Jed On the contrary a small diesel in a hybrid arrangment makes the most sense of all. A hybrid improves diesel performance as much as any other motor. Exactamundo - no contrario ! You must have misunderstood my intent (or more likely it was too hastily posted) if you thought that this

[Vo]:Real world BBGB #225

2007-04-22 Thread john herman
Dear Vo., Can anyone let us know BBGB (A) what is-are the battery pack in the Prius automobile??? (B)Watts...weight (C) Electric motor... type. HP... weight??? (D) WILL anyone let us know the actual parameters ...for of... or ... with The general ::

Re: [Vo]:Real world BBGB #225

2007-04-22 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to john herman's message of Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:52:09 -0400: Hi John, [snip] Dear Vo., Can anyone let us know BBGB (A) what is-are the battery pack in the Prius automobile??? A five second web search on prius tech. specs yields:-