Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Finally! Thanks for keeping tabs on this, Steve. Just remember folks: any publicity is good publicity, or as a British writer put it, it's always good to see your name in the papers, other than in the obituaries. (And cold fusion has been in the obits countless times.) - Jed

Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread OrionWorks
Finally! Thanks for keeping tabs on this, Steve. Just remember folks: any publicity is good publicity, or as a British writer put it, it's always good to see your name in the papers, other than in the obituaries. (And cold fusion has been in the obits countless times.) - Jed Steve, or

Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is the LENR-CANR news section announcement. Note that I included the link to the CBS website announcement. CBS 60 Minutes reports on cold fusion April 2009 The CBS newsmagazine 60 minutes will report on cold fusion on April 19, 2009. See:

Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: Any speculation as to why 60 Minutes has decided, now, to do an article on this subject? They have been working on it since before ICCF14. I do not know what triggered their interest at this particular time but I know they have been in contact with many researchers such as

[Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
The people at Energetics Technology put the video preview on their front page: http://superwavefusion.com/ This is one of the few groups of researchers in cold fusion who have a knack for public relations. Plus they know how to do a solid demonstration as well as a solid experiment. The two

Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview

2009-04-17 Thread OrionWorks
From Jed, The people at Energetics Technology put the video preview on their front page: http://superwavefusion.com/ This is one of the few groups of researchers in cold fusion who have a knack for public relations. Plus they know how to do a solid demonstration as well as a solid

Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: It is a bla, bla, bla conventional explanation of cold fusion. Then at 1:10 (timestamp from the end of the video) it says the deuterons begin to move more collectively, like a school of fish and it gets interesting. I am not sure what this refers to. Perhaps the Chubb

[Vo]:It will be ironic if 60 Minutes has a major effect

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
If 60 Minutes has a major effect on public opinion, and helps free up funding for the field, that will not surprise me. But it will be ironic. It will demonstrate that scientists and decision makers in government tend to be more influenced by the mass media than by scientific publications.

Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Steven Krivit stev...@newenergytimes.com wrote: Why now? Could it be because the Oilies are Out of Office? Oh! Terry

Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview

2009-04-17 Thread OrionWorks
Jed sez: What does Chubb's theory entail? Honestly, God only knows -- that level of physics is far over my head -- but it sounds a bit like a school of fish to me. It involves a bunch of deuterons with overlapping wave functions, which lose their identity and begin acting as one, sort of

Re: [Vo]:It will be ironic if 60 Minutes has a major effect

2009-04-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: So many energy problems could have been solved by now, and so many lives saved, if only scientists had done their job. But the need was not as great as it is now. We have always said, on this list, that $5/gal oil

Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview

2009-04-17 Thread Ron Wormus
Actually I think this is what Frank Znidarsic has been trying to get at with his electromagnetic Bose condensate convergence of the motion constants ideas but he has a very opaque method of explanation. Ron --On Friday, April 17, 2009 3:49 PM -0400 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:It will be ironic if 60 Minutes has a major effect

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Note that Google Trends shows a gradual decline in interest in the subject: http://www.google.com/trends?q=cold+fusion This does not surprise me. If I were not increasing the number of papers at LENR-CANR, download traffic would probably decline there. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview

2009-04-17 Thread Jones Beene
Guys - Ah, yes. The HK Hare Krishna hypothesis. Atoms loosing their identity. That's as good an explanation as any I've heard! ;-) BTW - wasn't Frank Z or maybe Horace the first to suggest something akin to boson-like coherence, or did Chubb come in ahead of them with the quasi-BEC

Re: [Vo]:It will be ironic if 60 Minutes has a major effect

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: But the need was not as great as it is now. We have always said, on this list, that $5/gal oil would make a difference. IMO, it has. In that sense it is unfortunate that the price is back to $2. The Obama administration may be the best thing that has happened to

Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview

2009-04-17 Thread thomas malloy
OrionWorks wrote: Jed sez: What does Chubb's theory entail? It involves a bunch of deuterons with overlapping wave functions, which lose their identity and begin acting as one, sort of like For more information, see Scott Talbot Chubb's papers. Ah, yes. The HK Hare Krishna

Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:39:22 -0500: Hi, [snip] Steve, or Jed Any speculation as to why 60 Minutes has decided, now, to do an article on this subject? Was there a specific tipping point, or have they been quietly watching this field for some time now. Cumulative

Re: [Vo]:It will be ironic if 60 Minutes has a major effect

2009-04-17 Thread thomas malloy
Jed Rothwell wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: But the need was not as great as it is now. We have always said, on this list, that $5/gal oil would make a difference. IMO, it has. In that sense it is unfortunate that the price is back to $2. Don't worry, $5 / gallon gas will be back. ---

Re: [Vo]:It will be ironic if 60 Minutes has a major effect

2009-04-17 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:37:43 -0400: Hi, [snip] That is how I feel about the whole history of cold fusion. So much talent wasted; so many years. So many energy problems could have been solved by now, and so many lives saved, if only scientists had done their

Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview - super cold

2009-04-17 Thread Mark Goldes
Not Robert Forward, Robert Carroll... Mark --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 2:34 PM Guys - Ah,

Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Steven Krivit
oh yeah, almost forgot about that. At 01:21 PM 4/17/2009, you wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Steven Krivit stev...@newenergytimes.com wrote: Why now? Could it be because the Oilies are Out of Office? Oh! Terry

Re: [Vo]:It will be ironic if 60 Minutes has a major effect

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
thomas malloy wrote: Don't worry, $5 / gallon gas will be back. What makes you think so? Do you expect the economy will recover soon, and the price will rebound? I think the price reached $4 before the recession. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:It will be ironic if 60 Minutes has a major effect

2009-04-17 Thread thomas malloy
Jed Rothwell wrote: thomas malloy wrote: Don't worry, $5 / gallon gas will be back. What makes you think so? Do you expect the economy will recover soon, and the price will rebound? The great inflation has just begun. However I think that the economy will rebound. --- Get FREE

Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview

2009-04-17 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Date: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:34 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview Guys - Ah, yes. The HK Hare Krishna hypothesis. Atoms loosing their identity. That's as good an

Re: [Vo]:It will be ironic if 60 Minutes has a major effect

2009-04-17 Thread Harry Veeder
The decline in interest appears to have leveled off. If the graph represented a stock price, would it be a good time to buy in? ;-) Harry - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Date: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:30 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:It will be ironic if 60

Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Steven Krivit
At 01:21 PM 4/17/2009, you wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Steven Krivit stev...@newenergytimes.com wrote: Why now? Could it be because the Oilies are Out of Office? Oh! Terry Terry...why CBS? why now? Something just fired in my neuro-net...Pure speculationI vaguely

Re: [Vo]:Red Skeletons

2009-04-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Related... Sinkholes below Lake Huron hold strange ecosystem: researchers http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/02/25/sinkholes.html Harry - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:42 pm Subject: [Vo]:Red Skeletons Thursday .