On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment finally
done correctly?
On Sep 10, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Harry
Slight correction made.
On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment finally
done correctly?
On Sep 10,
I saw some posts indicating the type of PD and who you purchase it from is very
important to success. Will the rigidity be maintained through co deposition? As
to lowering the cost would co-deposition on a Pourous Stainless Steel tube
still meet the criteria for rigidity? It would still provide
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I'm getting different reports. Some techniques are obviously
extremely difficult. Codep doesn't appear to be, the Galileo project
proved that it was within reach.
I do not know enough about the Galileo project or co-dep to judge,
but I can see that the project is
At 09:29 AM 9/11/2009, you wrote:
I saw some posts indicating the type of PD and who you purchase it
from is very important to success. Will the rigidity be maintained
through co deposition? As to lowering the cost would co-deposition
on a Pourous Stainless Steel tube still meet the criteria
Redux.
At 06:25 PM 9/10/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Why bother selling to people who can't afford it?!? That's nuts.
Sell to people who are loaded with money and who really, really want
your product. Every major industrial corporation in the U.S., Japan
and Europe tunes into LENR-CANR from time
At 11:06 AM 9/11/2009, you wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I'm getting different reports. Some techniques are obviously
extremely difficult. Codep doesn't appear to be, the Galileo
project proved that it was within reach.
I do not know enough about the Galileo project or co-dep to judge,
Mauro Lacy wrote:
By the way, I have a question for you, in the form of a zen koan: We
know the sound of two hands clapping, but what is the sound of one hand
clapping? We can reformulate it for the ocassion as: We know the
interference pattern produced by two streams of light, but what is
One more typo correction and some changes in wording for clarity.
On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment
Mauro Lacy wrote:
Mauro Lacy wrote:
By the way, I have a question for you, in the form of a zen koan: We
know the sound of two hands clapping, but what is the sound of one hand
clapping? We can reformulate it for the ocassion as: We know the
interference pattern produced by
Please bring this century old debate to completion?
Can someone give a short status update on what different people think?
Please, I am interested but cannot read all of it. 10-15 years ago I was
really into this and then I dropped out. Seems like an endless debate.
David
David Jonsson, Sweden,
Mauro Lacy wrote:
Mauro Lacy wrote:
By the way, I have a question for you, in the form of a zen koan: We
know the sound of two hands clapping, but what is the sound of one hand
clapping? We can reformulate it for the ocassion as: We know the
interference pattern produced by two streams
Please bring this century old debate to completion?
It will be completed when completed, David.
Can someone give a short status update on what different people think?
Please, I am interested but cannot read all of it. 10-15 years ago I was
really into this and then I dropped out. Seems like
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I do have a serious question about sealed vs. open. If we aren't
worried about calorimetry, we could recombine very simply to keep
the pressure down. Sealed is nice for lots of reasons, including
possible helium analysis later. Sealed is a factory cell, ready to
The Michelson-Morley experiment and interferometer, and the 1919
Eddington eclipse observations are discussed in the book by Collins
Pinch, The Golem Cambridge U., 1993. To summarize both the
experiment and the observations were a can of worms, and a lot less
definitive than most history book
see:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/a-rare-opportunity-in-mining-stocks.aspx
I like Jubak's columns. He sees what I see in this area.
Well, either that or figure out how to make these elements by cold fusion..
What about Fizeaus theory. THe actual case can be anything like emptiness,
and then Einsten fits, and any combination of flows in different directions,
and then Fizeau fits. Is there any problems in just combining he two?
David
David Jonsson, Sweden, phone callto:+46703000370
On Fri, Sep 11,
David Jonsson wrote:
What about Fizeaus theory. THe actual case can be anything like
emptiness, and then Einsten fits, and any combination of flows in
different directions, and then Fizeau fits. Is there any problems in
just combining he two?
Why would you do that? SR fits in all cases,
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
To summarize both the
experiment and the observations were a can of worms, and a lot less
definitive than most history book portray.
Which is irrelevant because they have been replicated, with variations,
many times over.
That's what the book says. It also points
I posted the new blog linked at bottom after discovering a paper by Zofia
Bialynicka-Birula, The principle difference however is just this paragraph :
Both Naudts and Bourgoin used equations normally reserved for photons and
skeptics argued that 1/2 spin electrons can not occupy the same space
- Original Message -
From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com
Date: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment finally
done correctly?
Which is irrelevant because they have been replicated, with
variations,many times over.
Perhaps I should not post this message here because one of these
fellows might be thinking of calling me back, and this might upset him . . .
I have been contacted by venture capitalists from time to time, more
often after the 60 Minutes program. Several researchers I know have
also been
-Original Message-
From: Mauro Lacy
DJ: Please bring this century old debate to completion?
It will be completed when completed, David.
I hope that everyone interested in this can take a moment to look at the
The Alternate View column of John G. Cramer article in Analog
Harry Veeder wrote:
- Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence
sa...@pobox.com Date: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:32 pm Subject:
Re: [Vo]:Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment finally done
correctly?
Which is irrelevant because they have been replicated, with
THOUGHT/?the obvious?: Ulitimately the most basic form of the defacto
'impediment-problem' with the Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment might
be more basic than even 'Relativity' might explain. We are performing this
experiment on a giant electro-magnetic spinning
Below are some quotes from Collins Pinch, which
I find disturbing. As I recall from another
source, Miller was bitter at the end of his life.
[Miller] rebuilt the apparatus and took readings
again on 4, 5 and 6 September 1924. Miller now
found a persistent positive displacement, and
Harry Veeder wrote:
I have no doubt the fringes will shift by pushing against this
particular beam splitter. What one needs is a sag-o-meter. Wait...
doesn't this apparatus perform this function?
A sag-o-meter? You mean, like the one used in the Koreshan Unity survey
of 1897, which
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Below are some quotes from Collins Pinch, which I find disturbing.
Disturbing, why? Because they reflect badly on Collins Pinch?
As I recall from another source, Miller was bitter at the end of his
life.
[Miller] rebuilt the apparatus and took readings again on 4,
The book about Taylor is:
H. R. DuFour, P. J. Unitt, Charles E. Taylor: 1868 - 1956 Prime Printing 1997
A detailed biography with many illustrations, blueprints facsimile
copies of letters and so on. The author lectured at a Fernbank
Science Center series on aviation sponsored by Lockheed
Thanks for this detailed reply.
Attached is a screen capture from the video.
The red dashes indicate the location of the laser.
Also attached is your diagram with a few additions.
(Hope both images get through vortex)
Positions B and C on the screen capture correspond to the beam splitter's
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Below are some quotes from Collins Pinch, which I find disturbing.
Disturbing, why? Because they reflect badly on Collins Pinch?
That is a complicated subject. It is a difficult to judge whether
they agree or disagree with the attitudes
2009/9/11 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com:
At 11:06 AM 9/11/2009, you [Jed] wrote:
...
He hoped
to adjust the voltage applied to the mesh to control the current flow. In
other words, he was trying to make a crude transistor. Wooldridge later
wrote: 'so here he had the three elements
Horace, Thanks!
Now I understand the fringe motion.
Harry
- Original Message -
From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
Date: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment finally
done correctly?
On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Harry
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