Re: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi?

2013-04-14 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
Easter is coming up, he is in sync with the season. Giovanni On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Andrea Rossi April 13th, 2013 at 3:41 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=802cpage=2#comment-676743 Dear Luca Salvarani: 1- I absolutely

Re: [Vo]:Particle size of photon

2013-04-14 Thread David Roberson
I have been attempting to understand if or why there is a difference in the behavior of high frequency photons as compared to those that we can easily measure. One problem that crops up frequently is that the energy of these waveforms travels outwards at the speed of light relative to us the

Re: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi?

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Gluck
Caro Giovanni, Cathlic Esater Sunday was March 31; this is a retarded reaction from Rossi, he being an agile entrepreneur and fast thinker. Non mi piace, including the rumors of testing in Sweden- why just rumors? Peter On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Giovanni Santostasi

Re: [Vo]:Particle size of photon

2013-04-14 Thread David Roberson
Eric, What if you decided to chase after one of the gamma rays? If you constructed a spaceship that traveled at just below the speed of light relative to the source of the ray, it would be effectively Doppler shifted indefinitely. What would you measure at that point? I would suspect like

RE: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi?

2013-04-14 Thread DJ Cravens
orthodox Easter will be May 5th Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:48:51 +0300 Subject: Re: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi? From: peter.gl...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Caro Giovanni, Cathlic Esater Sunday was March 31; this is a retardedreaction from Rossi, he being an agile entrepreneur andfast

Re: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi?

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Gluck
Do you hope to read the 3rd Party Report till then? On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:22 PM, DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote: orthodox Easter will be May 5th -- Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:48:51 +0300 Subject: Re: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi? From:

RE: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi?

2013-04-14 Thread DJ Cravens
I have given up ever seeing an unfiltered third party result from Rossi. History does not show any evidence that he truly will allow such investigation. I also wonder about Defkalion's presentation in Austin in Aug. Specifically, if it will be a touchable demonstration or just words about

RE: [Vo]:Particle size of photon

2013-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
From: David Roberson I have been attempting to understand if or why there is a difference in the behavior of high frequency photons as compared to those that we can easily measure. ' There is, but it is not easy to follow. It involves going from inverse 4th to 5th powers. Here is a

Re: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi?

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Dennis, The results obtained in the tests of Rossi in 2011, with or without steam have to be explained in some way. My guess is he has lower performances and problems of control. Sooner or later he has to show something or will perish. His message of today was incoherent. Possible relation

Re: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi?

2013-04-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Possible relation to John Barleycorn? Considering his heritage, more likely Dionysus. :-)

Re: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi?

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Gluck
Bacchus but if he prefers strong drinks and is in the US? Who knows... I am unable to 'get' this non-communications with the Professors... And at my age few things can surprise me Peter On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:09 AM,

re: [Vo]:resurrection of Rossi?

2013-04-14 Thread a.ashfield
, 14 Apr 2013 09:11:45 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=date:20130414 Bacchus but if he prefers strong drinks and is in the US? Who knows... I am unable to 'get' this non-communications with the Professors... And at my age few things can surprise me Peter

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 14 Apr 2013 01:10:28 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] I am not familiar with a process that accelerates the decay of isotopes, but perhaps this is possible. Do you know of any method that can be employed to determine whether or not this can be done? NMR

Re: [Vo]:Particle size of photon

2013-04-14 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 14 Apr 2013 01:39:29 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] OK Robin, The frequency of a 1 kilometer wavelength radiated signal would be as follows: (f = c / wavelength). or in this case f = 300 million meters per second / 1000 meters or 300 kilohertz. This is

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 14 Apr 2013 01:29:19 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] Has anyone figured out a theory as to where the energy comes from to drive the motor? Are the magnets depleted with time? I think you can get a measure of the maximum energy stored in the magnets by

Re: [Vo]:Particle size of photon

2013-04-14 Thread David Roberson
That is a big particle. Perhaps we should keep in mind that the particles that find their way through slit experiments are not like billiard balls, but behave more like a wave packet. I still am wondering how to interpret the behavior of such a packet once it hits the screen following the

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread Terry Blanton
Don't confuse force with energy.

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:49:20 PM I am having a difficult time judging the amount of energy stored in these magnets. I recall almost having a finger removed when holding a piece of steel near a powerful rare earth magnet. The force attracting

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread David Roberson
If you are referring to my statement about the magnet and steel, I am not confusing them. The force being applied to the steel is attempting to make it come into contact with the magnet. Energy is being released by the magnet as it draws the metal closer since it is having to work against my

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread John Berry
So there are two somewhat simple possibilities. 1: Magnets become demagnetized, the energy stored in their fields is depleted. 2: The magnets enter a state of greater attraction or greater repulsion or both over the run, this is essentially then a high tech spring that is being unwound. But do

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread David Roberson
I always find this subject interesting to discuss. One could consider every piece of iron in the universe to posses potential energy in relation to a powerful magnet. Any of these iron things could be brought closer to our magnet and it would find itself subject to a force that could impart

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread John Berry
Well one interesting thought is if we have a magnet, and there is nothing else magnetic, then no energy can be tapped from it, but it still cost the same to establish the field. Additionally it we let iron particle cover our magnet until there is no observable outside field (still there really,

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread David Roberson
John, You are pointing out some interesting possibilities. I suspect that the internal field pattern of the magnetized material in your item 1 is adjusted by the placement of new metal around the magnet. It might actually increase the net flux locked within the total structure since there

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread David Roberson
Well one interesting thought is if we have a magnet, and there is nothing else magnetic, then no energy can be tapped from it, but it still cost the same to establish the field. We could move a coil of wire through the field of the lonely magnetic. I suppose that if we had to move the coil

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: The important questions that we need answered are how much actual energy is stored in the original magnet and how much can we borrow? Who wants to tackle these questions? I'll give it an attempt. The energy stored in

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread David Roberson
Eric, That is a good start at the procedure. Can you come up with some calculations to fill in the blanks? We need to have an idea of the total number of joules of energy contained within a powerful magnetic of known dimensions. Perhaps you could estimate one that would fit into the Yildiz

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread John Berry
You have failed to tackle the real question. If we have say a permanent magnet, and a C core, as we pass the magnet into the C core, an inductive field is established. If the inductive field will also effect the atoms, and if the material is aligned, then the aligned atoms will have energy

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-14 Thread Harry Veeder
If that is true, then it follows that the Earth is doing work on Harry On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 7:41 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: If you are referring to my statement about the magnet and steel, I am not confusing them. The force being applied to the steel is attempting to