Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast

2019-01-21 Thread Jack Cole
Yes, if they put the whole thing in a calorimeter, they could measure the input power at the wall. I could be convinced by that kind of a setup. On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 4:18 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Good point, they would have been smart to place everything in a large > calorimeter box like the

Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast

2019-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
Good point, they would have been smart to place everything in a large calorimeter box like the one Earth-tech designed. Why not? MOAC Overview - Earth Tech | | | | | | | | | | | MOAC Overview - Earth Tech | | | Jed Rothwell wrote: > If the waveform generator itself co

Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast

2019-01-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > No meter or measurement can change that underlying situation, so the > discussion about accurate meters could be premature. > > From there on, everything is supposition. We can probably agree that if > anyone were to meter the power going into say a three pulse generator set

Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast

2019-01-21 Thread Jack Cole
There can be non-malicious reasons for not reporting that data as Jones notes. I would add self-deception to that list, which I think is likely in this case. Everyone close to the matter believes Godes couldn't have made a mistake on the input power measurement. While understandable, it is likel

Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast

2019-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
To be fair, the pulse creation of Godes (as well as all of the other Dardik spin-off techniques for superwaves) would be expected to be extremely lossy, especially if one tries to superimpose waves from multiple signal generators, all of which carry their own losses. No meter or measurement c

Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast

2019-01-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: A clamp meter does KVA - and power factor correction (but not spell > checking :-) > To clarify, you are saying that a simple $20 wattmeter might not be accurate in this case, and a $200 clamp-on meter is better. Right? You could use both, I suppose. The input power to the si

Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast

2019-01-21 Thread Brian Ahern
The failure to measure, record and discuss wall power baseline measurements is the hallmark f a fraudulent effort. From: Terry Blanton Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 3:09 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at

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