Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Terry Blanton
I will check the references; but, my problem with the concept is in the definition of a bit of information. A bit could be constituted by either an endothermic or an exothermic action depending on the method of storage. Let us not be information racists. Zero is datum also. :) >

Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Jonathan Berry
I would note that the magnetocaloric effect seems to embody the same effect. Where the order and disorder of the magnetic domains is changed by magnetization, that is erasing data right?! So it is I guess a pretty robust effect as it is used to cool things already. On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 13:54, J

Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Jonathan Berry
I'd never heard of that either, but a moment of Googling bought up these as the first 2 results: https://physicsworld.com/a/erasing-data-could-keep-quantum-computers-cool/#:~:text=A%20classical%20computer%20generates%20heat,unknown%20information%20in%20a%20system . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L

Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Jones Beene
Terry Blanton wrote: > I would be interested on more on the claim he made about increased heat in > computer systems when information is deleted.  He acted like that was a > proven fact.  Anyone got a citation on such? I think this comes from Landauer's principle but I do not have a citation

Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:21 PM Jones Beene wrote > Yes, it is long > It's really not long. The presentation is the first half hour and the last is the Q&A session. It's all based on the Casimir effect. I would be interested on more on the claim he made about increased heat in computer system

Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Jones Beene
For anyone who loves science, the new McCulloch lecture on YT is one of the great unappreciated finds of all time ! Yes, it is long and yes he is not a great presenter ... BUT ... the content here is astounding. And it is fairly terse, given the breadth of the subject matter. McCulloch was brou