At 11:38 PM 8/20/2012, Kelley Trezise wrote:
Nicely done. The most likely conclusion to the Papp Engine story is
that there is nothing there. Papp retired after tinkering with toys
and then luring in investors and the Rohner bro's took up the
thread. Nothing will ever come of the Papp engine
]:110 automobile batteries to power the Oklahoma Noble Gas
Engine?
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com\
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:46:13 PM
While you're at it, calculate the diameter of the 3-wire extension
cord needed to power it from the mains!
107 hp = 78.7 KW / 120 V = 655 Amps
https
, all they
have are kits and demo poppers.
Jojo
- Original Message - From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:110 automobile batteries to power the Oklahoma Noble Gas
Engine?
From: Alan Fletcher
Good point JoJo.
Proponents are conflating two different Papp anecdotes which completely warp
the story. The flimsiest extension cord would be adequate to run the engine
in a no-load condition, and it could continue to run for several minutes
with the benefit of a hidden capacitor. This was what
they
have are kits and demo poppers.
Jojo
- Original Message - From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:110 automobile batteries to power the Oklahoma Noble
Gas Engine?
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
to power the Oklahoma Noble Gas
Engine?
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com\
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:46:13 PM
While you're at it, calculate the diameter of the 3-wire extension
cord needed to power it from the mains!
107 hp = 78.7 KW / 120 V = 655 Amps
https://wiktel.com
in such a position and yet, after 30 years, all they
have are kits and demo poppers.
Jojo
- Original Message - From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:110 automobile batteries to power the Oklahoma Noble
Gas
: James Bowery
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:110 automobile batteries to power the Oklahoma Noble Gas
Engine?
Erratum: the Rohner brothers were in some kind of conspiracy to defraud
with Rohner
should (of course) read: the Rohner
2.5MJ/automobile battery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density
1 hour at 107 horsepower http://www.plasmerg.com/_files/Cert.pdf
2.6MJ/battery;1hour;107hp?battery http://www.testardi.com/rich/calchemy2/
([{2.6 * (mega*joule)} / battery]^-1 * [1 * hour]) * (107 * horsepower) ?
battery
=
From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:09:07 PM
Subject: [Vo]:110 automobile batteries to power the Oklahoma Noble Gas Engine?
2.5MJ/automobile battery
1 hour at 107 horsepower
= 110.47821 battery
Hah!
It was actually 1 hour 6 minutes .. so add another 10
seen.
Also, I recall they disconnected the batteries after the engine was running.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:110 automobile batteries to power the Oklahoma Noble Gas
Engine
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com\
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:46:13 PM
While you're at it, calculate the diameter of the 3-wire extension
cord needed to power it from the mains!
107 hp = 78.7 KW / 120 V = 655 Amps
https://wiktel.com/standards/ampacit.htm
Highest gauge listed = =
Shirley, you're joking Mr. Feynmann!
Feynmann: Stop calling me Shirley.
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com\
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:46:13 PM
While you're at it, calculate the diameter of the 3-wire extension
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 5:29:35 PM
So, Feynman would have needed to yank out 3 1-inch diameter extension
cords.
None of the reports indicate whether the Papp engine was running under load or
not.
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