SOLAR GETS CHEAPER WITH TIME.
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From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2022 12:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A New Way
ber 18, 2022 3:46 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion
In reply to Robin's message of Mon, 19 Dec 2022 10:34:53 +1100:
Hi,
[snip]
>Furthermore, I'm not sure how long Solar cells last on the Moon, given
>constant b
It was described in the movie ‘Moon’ in 2009.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_(2009_film)
From: Terry Blanton
Sent: 18 December 2022 14:33
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion
In that case, a robotic mining system would suffice. Combine
In reply to Robin's message of Mon, 19 Dec 2022 10:34:53 +1100:
Hi,
[snip]
>Furthermore, I'm not sure how long Solar cells last on the Moon, given
>constant bombardment by high energy particles.
BTW, this is also true of Solar cells in orbit, so I guess we actually have
some pretty good stats
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Sun, 18 Dec 2022 23:26:25 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>To many people here restart the long time dead hot fusion dream
>
>Hot fusion of all forms produces high energy (> 10MeV) neutrons.
The He3 + He3 -> He4 + 2p + 12.9 MeV reaction produces no neutrons, but
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 18 Dec 2022 20:55:06 + (UTC):
Hi,
[snip]
> Even so - isn't it true that the bottom line is that it will be far cheaper
> to make solar cells, given the abundance of silicon on the moon - and get
> electrical power that way compared with fusion.
>
Jones Beene wrote:
Even so - isn't it true that the bottom line is that it will be far cheaper
> to make solar cells, given the abundance of silicon on the moon - and get
> electrical power that way compared with fusion.
>
Do you mean, if you were living on the moon? I think that is right.
On
To many people here restart the long time dead hot fusion dream
Hot fusion of all forms produces high energy (> 10MeV) neutrons. These
carry away most reaction energy. But there is no way to harvest it.
Except in a very thick wall as very low grade temperature...
Research like ITER
Even so - isn't it true that the bottom line is that it will be far cheaper to
make solar cells, given the abundance of silicon on the moon - and get
electrical power that way compared with fusion.
Far far far cheaper.
Robin wrote:
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 18
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 18 Dec 2022 08:33:26 -0500:
Hi,
>In that case, a robotic mining system would suffice. Combine that with
>Heinlein's mass driver and we're all set.
Note that 12 kWh/m^2 was a high order estimate. Given the size of the Moon, and
Earth currently using
In that case, a robotic mining system would suffice. Combine that with
Heinlein's mass driver and we're all set.
Well, we need a hot Fusion device first.
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 2:40 AM Robin
wrote:
> In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 17 Dec 2022 22:52:39 -0500:
> Hi,
>
> An alpha
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 17 Dec 2022 22:52:39 -0500:
Hi,
An alpha particle of about 5 MeV will penetrate into solid matter about 10
microns.
Under the best of circumstances we may imagine a Solar flare generated He3 ion
having an energy of about 1 GeV, with
most having
LOL!
I was speaking in terms of access. We have Apollo's sister, Artemis; and,
hopefully, Starship.
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 10:05 PM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Terry Blanton wrote:
>
> The moon has lots of 3He and it gets closer every day.
>>
>
> I believe it is getting farther away, not closer.
Terry Blanton wrote:
The moon has lots of 3He and it gets closer every day.
>
I believe it is getting farther away, not closer. NASA says it is moving
away at 3.8 cm a year.
https://www.space.com/moon-drifting-away-from-earth-2-5-billion-years
Terry Blanton wrote:
> The moon has lots of 3He and it gets closer every day.
Then we should tap that "close" source directly - the moons' gravitational pull
( ie tidal energy) Maybe cheaper that hot fusion anyway
When the accountants get into the picture - the ever increasing costs of duel
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 17 Dec 2022 20:34:40 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>The moon has lots of 3He and it gets closer every day.
Both true, but hardly practical, unless you have your reactor on the Moon. In
which case, it might be a useful power
source for a Lunar colony.
However the
The moon has lots of 3He and it gets closer every day.
Have you seen "For All Mankind"?
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 8:02 PM Jones Beene wrote:
> Dead in the water...
>
> Requires lots of helium-3 to become commercial
>
>
>
> H LV wrote:
>
>
> A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion
> This would not
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 18 Dec 2022 01:02:10 + (UTC):
Hi,
[snip]
> Dead in the water...
>Requires lots of helium-3 to become commercial
That's why they also use a D+D reaction to produce the He3. What I missed in
the presentation was the fact that when you
fuse D+D you
Dead in the water...
Requires lots of helium-3 to become commercial
H LV wrote:
A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion
This would not possible without fibre optics to get the timing right of the
electrical pulses.
https://youtu.be/_bDXXWQxK38
Harry
A New Way to Achieve Nuclear Fusion
This would not possible without fibre optics to get the timing right of the
electrical pulses.
https://youtu.be/_bDXXWQxK38
Harry
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