Re: [Vo]:Cheap Solar Power (harvard.edu)

a.ashfield wrote: > I can believe solar panels show a return for the owner - with sufficient > public subsidies. > Yes. Fortunately, the public subsidies for solar panels are far smaller than they are for coal or nuclear power. Imagine if we had to kill 20,000 people a

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to > be any allowance for hormesis. And, yes, I own solar panels. > > -Original Message- > From: a.ashfield [mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net] > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:58 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cheap Solar Power (harvard.edu) > &

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Chris Zell, "And, yes, I own solar panels." I can believe solar panels show a return for the owner - with sufficient public subsidies.

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: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:58 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cheap Solar Power (harvard.edu) Jed, I think the numbers killed by power plants, at least in the US,are very flakey. Likewise the number skilled by particulates from indoor cooking relies on models that are probably as bad

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Jed, I think the numbers killed by power plants, at least in the US,are very flakey. Likewise the number skilled by particulates from indoor cooking relies on models that are probably as bad as IPCC's models of global warming. I'm not interested enough to spend the time it would take to

Re: [Vo]:Cheap Solar Power (harvard.edu)

a.ashfield wrote: > The World Bank refuses to lend money for cheap new coal fired power > stations "because of environmental concerns." Presumably future children > are more valuable than the ones actually being killed now. > Coal fired plants kill roughly 20,000

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Jed, "Poor people are the last to switch to the new technology and they end up paying a lot of money because they cannot afford the transition. Here is a heartbreaking example:" It is even worse than your links suggest. Cooking over indoor fires apparently kills half to one million

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Eric Walker wrote: > And, if your earlier point turns out to be true, there will be a > disproportionate impact on lower income people who are unable to afford the > cost of switching to such distributed power systems. > Yes. That often happens with technology as it

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On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: If you are building a new system, based on each home having renewable > energy and needing less grid power, the infrastructure can be much smaller > and cheaper. But this does not help the power companies that have

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The problem with the strategy presented by Smith/Edison is that the big electric power utility companies have *already made the big investment in distribution*. Smith describes a new installation. The technology for the power management he describes is available today - you can go out and buy it

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Vis a vis this excellent thread, I'd be interested in people's thoughts about a new video by Robert Murray Smith on "The Internet of Energy". This looks to me to be better than Tesla's technology, and in fact, a very significant advance for, especially, widespread solar. ken On Thu, May 5, 2016

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As your analysis demonstrates, there's no warranty of any particular level of insight that attaches to comments in this and similar fora. You are free to leave when you like. Eric > On May 5, 2016, at 13:19, Che wrote: > > > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Eric

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> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Eric Walker wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: >> >>> Fortunately, looks like LENR may not be needed to rescue the planet >>> >>>

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Chris Zell wrote: > . . . as shown if you have abundant drunks in your neighborhood who happen > to take out telephone poles on weekends. > We have that problem! > > I can’t wait for better batteries. > Your wait is nearly over. The Tesla Powerwall is now available:

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Almost every month, I pay more for delivery of electricity than for electricity itself and this has been true for some years. NYSEG and NIMO used to be great companies with excellent service – as shown if you have abundant drunks in your neighborhood who happen to take out telephone poles on

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You say the solution is obvious, but that is far from the case. If the power companies charged everyone a flat fee for their share of the grid maintenance and repayment of capital, I guarantee you that the bills of the apartment dwellers would go way up. The power company makes money on each kWH

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In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Wed, 4 May 2016 17:46:33 -0600: Hi, The solution is obvious. The power companies should charge a usage price for the connection to the grid that reflects the actual costs of maintaining the hardware, including the poles and wires, then on top of that they

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Well, that is the crux. If the power infrastructure is going to charge the consumer the same whether he uses grid power or not but still has the grid connection, what is the user's incentive to invest in alternative energy? Actually, they are creating a situation where users will disconnect from

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It's not that sorry. The problem is poor people in apartments bear the brunt of increased utility prices. Yay for rich people and their solar installations though, I guess. On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: > There is a residential solar power war

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There is a residential solar power war going on now (see Scientific American issue 11/2014) between homeowners having rooftop solar panels and the power companies. The power companies believe they have a right to supply all of your power and are charging additional fees if you have panels on your

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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: Fortunately, looks like LENR may not be needed to rescue the planet > > http://www.keith.seas.harvard.edu/blog-1/cheapsolarpower > Indeed. If solar power will help humanity to squeak by, and LENR will allow it to

[Vo]:Cheap Solar Power (harvard.edu)

Fortunately, looks like LENR may not be needed to rescue the planet http://www.keith.seas.harvard.edu/blog-1/cheapsolarpower