Re: [Vo]:DESERTEC solar thermal plan

2009-09-18 Thread Michel Jullian
According to that paper, electricity can be transported over very long distances (from North Africa to all of Europe in their project) with only minor losses (15%) using HVDC power lines. If that's true, it seems to me that with such a HVDC grid, renewable energy doesn't have to be stored any

RE: [Vo]:DESERTEC solar thermal plan

2009-09-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Michel: According to that paper, electricity can be transported over very long distances (from North Africa to all of Europe in their project) with only minor losses (15%) using HVDC power lines. If that's true, it seems to me that with such a HVDC grid, renewable energy doesn't have

RE: [Vo]:DESERTEC solar thermal plan

2009-09-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:52 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:DESERTEC solar thermal plan From Michel: According to that paper, electricity can be transported over very long distances (from North Africa to all of Europe in their project) with only minor losses (15%) using

Re: [Vo]:DESERTEC solar thermal plan

2009-09-18 Thread Mike Carrell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:DESERTEC solar thermal plan According to that paper, electricity can be transported over very long distances (from North Africa to all of Europe in their project) with only minor losses (15%) using HVDC power lines. HVDC

Re: [Vo]:DESERTEC solar thermal plan

2009-09-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: Who was the idiot who invented AC power transmission in the first place? ;-) Their names were Tesla and Stanley and were backed by Westinghouse. . . . That was a joke, Mike. A geek joke. I expect everyone here remembers Edison's classic remark that they should call

[Vo]:DESERTEC solar thermal plan

2009-09-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.desertec.org/downloads/summary_en.pdf This is well written. The map on p. 2 is revealing. Map caption: For illustration: Areas of the size as indicated by the red squares would be sufficient for Solar Thermal Power Plants to generate as much electricity as is currently