Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling

2008-07-04 Thread David Jonsson
I realize now that the process can be reversed and used for heating. Can anyone help me to understand how. To what degree would the radiation be absorbed? David -- David Jonsson Sweden phone callto:+46703000370

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling

2008-07-02 Thread David Jonsson
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to David Jonsson's message of Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:03:58 +0200: Hi, [snip] I don't count vibrational since they aren't excited at these temperatures. I have clarified this in the file now. I also describe the rotational as

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling

2008-07-02 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy David, I have been trying to fathom your concept of cooling.. or should I state heating. Over time there has been posts in the Vortex group made on the functions of vortex tubes as used for cooling purposes. I am not a physicist but there could be a relationship between your measurement

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling

2008-07-02 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to David Jonsson's message of Thu, 3 Jul 2008 04:15:47 +0200: Hi, [snip] I will abandon this idea now and try to see if some electron gas is forming as a result of the net charges. Electron gas has very high thermal conductivity and could maybe explain the cooling effect. [snip] Any

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling

2008-06-29 Thread David Jonsson
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to David Jonsson's message of Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:00:17 +0200: Hi David, [snip] Please check http://djk.se/physics/ [snip] Degrees of freedom is 5 so the relation between kinetic energy and heat is Eheat=k BT=5 mv 2 2

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling

2008-06-29 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy David, Fun stuff, You may consider the parallels between induction ( an electrical term) and ionized air. I have found a friend in this method of thinking when reasoning liquid dynamics.Whenever I reach a level of what I believe is an understanding of fluid dynamics, I start the motor on

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling

2008-06-29 Thread rvanspaa
In reply to David Jonsson's message of Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:03:58 +0200: Hi, [snip] I don't count vibrational since they aren't excited at these temperatures. I have clarified this in the file now. I also describe the rotational as ½mv^2. That make a total of five. As I have only used rotation

[Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling

2008-06-28 Thread David Jonsson
Hi all I have made a calculation. It took me a while since I am not used to electrodynamics. It is a lot of vector algebra and trigonometry but I skipped that part in the files and I only write out important info. Please check http://djk.se/physics/ for PDF and OpenOffice versions. Please

Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling

2008-06-28 Thread rvanspaa
In reply to David Jonsson's message of Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:00:17 +0200: Hi David, [snip] Please check http://djk.se/physics/ [snip] Degrees of freedom is 5 so the relation between kinetic energy and heat is Eheat=k BT=5 mv 2 2 The rotational energy of an air molecule is for one degree of freedom