[Vo]:Re: Widom-Larsen Theory

2015-04-02 Thread Mark Jurich
Jones wrote: | Oops, as you can see the Conference was in Cambridge. (where Violante’s 2003 paper was first presented) | Letts and Cravens also presented similar work there with lasers but apparently did not use the phrase | “surface plasmon”… or if they did, then maybe they are

Re: [Vo]:Re: Widom-Larsen Theory

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- I agree with you with the significance of the Letts Craven paper. For a long time the laser stimulation of the Pd-D system was shown to reliably cause excess heat. However, L&C indicate in the cited paper NMR was involved in their opinion. This was because RF stimulation also wor

RE: [Vo]:Re: Widom-Larsen Theory

2015-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
BTW – this is a fabulous paper in retrospect – especially if one is of the opinion that the dogbone type reactors – by virtue of incandescent light interacting in the alumina tube – are storing, collating and reemitting semi-coherent photons, as a substitute for laser irradiation. There are a n

RE: [Vo]:Re: Widom-Larsen Theory

2015-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
Oops, as you can see the Conference was in Cambridge. (where Violante’s 2003 paper was first presented) Letts and Cravens also presented similar work there with lasers but apparently did not use the phrase “surface plasmon”… or if they did, then maybe they are the first. – so the $64 questio

RE: [Vo]:Re: Widom-Larsen Theory

2015-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Mark, Thanks for that - but here is a two year earlier reference – and one not encumbered by the ultra-cold neutron nonsense. It is a reference which comes from Volante at a conference presentation in 2003 at Frascati. Was Widom at this conference? If so, we have another attribution probl

Re: [Vo]:Re: Widom-Larsen Theory

2015-04-02 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Thu, Apr 2, 2015 2:58 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: Widom-Larsen Theory Jones wrote: For the record, Fred Sparber started talking about surface plasmons in LENR on vortex in 2006 if not before. It is a mista

[Vo]:Re: Widom-Larsen Theory

2015-04-01 Thread Mark Jurich
Jones wrote: For the record, Fred Sparber started talking about surface plasmons in LENR on vortex in 2006 if not before. It is a mistake to credit this to W&L. FYI: It’s not my intent to get involved in the whole Widom-Larsen Theory Controversy, but I think it would be disingenuous if