David,
I agree. I have the best hope for these reaction(s). They need to be
understood before products hit the market to insure public safety. At
times they appear safe, at other times I am not so sure.
On Wednesday, August 22, 2012, David Roberson wrote:
Let's hope that this does not come
At 02:11 PM 8/20/2012, ChemE Stewart wrote:
They were probably both guilty of ignorance of what the reaction
actually was/is and its potential although Papp had an
idea. Unfortunately more injury may result until the reaction(s)
are nailed down. There is a reason Plasmerg/Rohners maintain
At 09:31 AM 8/21/2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
Folks, if you are not prepared to lose $350, plus more (for the fuel
and to actually build a piston/cylinder) don't buy one of those
kits. There is a high risk, from the history of this field. Caveat emptor.
I'd be happy to contribute a small
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:31:18 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
I don't think anyone knows what the reaction is, if it's real. The
work has not been done. However, Bob Rohner demonstrated his popper
behind that glass. He doesn't use it in his own shop/lab, see the
I wonder how many pops it takes to knock out enough brain cell atoms so
that you either forget why you bought the popper or at a minimum start
acting like Rossi...Wierd Science.
On Tuesday, August 21, 2012, wrote:
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:31:18
-0500:
At 09:23 PM 8/21/2012, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Isn't there a balloon attached to the end of the popper? (Which would
automatically function as a safety valve).
No, if there really were a rapid increase in pressure, rapid enough,
the balloon fitting would not pass the gas fast enough and
Abd,
I size pressure safety relief devices all the time. Typically you select a
PSV relief orifice size to handle the maximum instantaneous relief flow
required to keep the vessel with 10% of its ASME design pressure. You
usually do not let the device/vessel crack or explode. In deflagration
Call it the bioassay method of measuring reaction effects. The unit of
exposure, the Papp. Lifetime exposure should be limited to a few
millipapps. They would use mice for monitoring, but the animal rights
people threatened to sue, so former Nature editors were retained.
After all, they
Let's hope that this does not come to pass. I would rather find out that the
device operates with more or less standard physics instead of something
sinister.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 21, 2012
Let's cut thru this cloud of confusion, shall we?
In historical warfare, opposing armies would build Strongholds. A stronghold
is a fortified position from which an army could launch offensive strikes or
retreat to for defense. A typical example would be a walled city and/or a
tower in such
They were probably both guilty of ignorance of what the reaction actually
was/is and its potential although Papp had an idea. Unfortunately more
injury may result until the reaction(s) are nailed down. There is a reason
Plasmerg/Rohners maintain Lexan bullet proof glass around their devices,
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