Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread James Bowery
Its at 11:45 into the video. Thank you, H. Veeder. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:11 PM, H Veeder wrote: > A COP can be calculated from this screen capture > > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxxczzEYA5C5ajA3MndVbHd5NGM/edit?usp=sharing > > which comes from the fourth video on this page > http:/

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread H Veeder
A COP can be calculated from this screen capture https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxxczzEYA5C5ajA3MndVbHd5NGM/edit?usp=sharing which comes from the fourth video on this page http://new.livestream.com/triwu2/Defkalion-ita Harry On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:24 PM, blaze spinnaker wrote: > >> I thi

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread H Veeder
I saw an input of 1.8kW and an output of 8kW. This gives a COP of 4.4 Harry On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:24 PM, blaze spinnaker wrote: > I think I read 5 somewhere. > > 1,6 kWe for 8 kWth > > You can watch the video. they have some graphs in the background: > > http://new.livestream.com/triwu2/De

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread blaze spinnaker
I think I read 5 somewhere. 1,6 kWe for 8 kWth You can watch the video. they have some graphs in the background: http://new.livestream.com/triwu2/Defkalion-ita Personally, if you're an english speaker, I'd wait for tomorrow's video though for things like that. It'll be at: http://new.livestr

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread James Bowery
Thanks for the correction, Akira. So, where, exactly, are we to find the actual Coefficient of Performance attained by today's demonstration in Italy? Chapter and verse please. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > On 2013-07-23 02:04, James Bowery wrote: > >> That's not wh

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2013-07-23 02:04, James Bowery wrote: That's not what the article says: http://it.ibtimes.com/articles/53211/20130722/fusione-fredda-defkalion-video-streaming-presentazione.htm It says a 4:1 ratio: Gamberale is talking about the notorious scientific paper by De Ninno et al. (ENEA), colloqu

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread James Bowery
Perhaps I should make this crystal clear: When they say 4:1 they are *not* saying a COP of 4 or 5 or whatever. They are saying *a COP of 0.25!* I cannot emphasize enough how important it is, in this sensitive situation, to avoid a mistake such as that made by Charles Fancis in his erroneous repo

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread James Bowery
That's not what the article says: http://it.ibtimes.com/articles/53211/20130722/fusione-fredda-defkalion-video-streaming-presentazione.htm It says a 4:1 ratio: Luke Gamberale, after specifying that were observed radiation but in very low quantities, reminiscent of the famous report of ENEA, the r

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread Alan Fletcher
IBT report on the demonstration : http://it.ibtimes.com/articles/53211/20130722/fusione-fredda-defkalion-video-streaming-presentazione.htm (google translate looks OK) Several quotes -- I presume off the video, not by an IBT reporter at the event. Implies that tomorrow's test will be in Italy:

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread H Veeder
various parts – sound not working at first.*** > * > > ** ** > > *From:* Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 22 July 2013 14:26 > *To:* John Milstone > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo > > ** ** > > It'

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread Charles Francis
There's recordings below in various parts - sound not working at first. From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 July 2013 14:26 To: John Milstone Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo It's offline... 2013/7/22 Charles Fran

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread Daniel Rocha
It's offline... 2013/7/22 Charles Francis > http://new.livestream.com/triwu2/Defkalion-ita > > > -Original Message- > From: Craig [mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com] > Sent: 22 July 2013 13:49 > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Gree

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread Charles Francis
http://new.livestream.com/triwu2/Defkalion-ita -Original Message- From: Craig [mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 July 2013 13:49 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo Can you provide a link? I don't have the link to the

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Green Technologies - Italian Demo

2013-07-22 Thread Craig
Can you provide a link? I don't have the link to the demo. Craig On 07/22/2013 07:13 AM, Charles Francis wrote: > > Shows COP of 5 > > >