Re: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
When the reactor first starts up, all the particles have a tubercle surface. The picture of the particles with a tubercle surface look like a hydrogen atom can penetrate deeply into the tubercle network close to the center of the particle. This type of particle looks like it is mostly surface and n

RE: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-10 Thread Robert Ellefson
>On Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:45 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Robert Ellefson wrote: > > >Given that the ash sample was taken at an arbitrarily-defined time point ... > >then I believe > >this indicates that the reaction is a cyclic one, which decays to the > >me

Re: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-09 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Robert Ellefson wrote: Given that the ash sample was taken at an arbitrarily-defined time point > ... then I believe this indicates that the reaction is a cyclic one, which > decays to the measured ash isotope ratios while the reaction is stopping. > This is an in

Re: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-09 Thread Alain Sepeda
moreover the various methods gave different result, suggesting that surface is very different from deeper. it is expected as it happen the same for others LENr experiments ... there are very complex transmutation in the craters of LENR electrodes 2014-10-09 9:20 GMT+02:00 Stefan Israelsson Tampe

Re: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-09 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
I thought I read that the analysis was for the surface of the grain. Also the result differes from grain to grain, it would have been nice to see some ranges of the values found in the surface. I got the feeling that the presented sample was chooses just to make a statement of how different the com

Re: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-08 Thread H Veeder
I think the use of cycles will help to explain this phenomena. Harry On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Robert Ellefson wrote: > Er, > > s/Ni68/Ni62/g > > :-) > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Robert Ellefson [mailto:vortex-h...@e2ke.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:02 PM

RE: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-08 Thread Robert Ellefson
Yes, it was a typo, sorry. I meant Ni-62. -Bob > -Original Message- > From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:38 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear

RE: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-08 Thread Jones Beene
Is this a typo? There is no Ni68. Half life is less than 30 seconds -Original Message- From: Robert Ellefson One observation that I'm noting in reviewing the data is the remarkably complete conversion of nickel isotopes to Ni68,

Re: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-08 Thread Axil Axil
According to Cook, Ni61 does not participate in the reaction. Therefore, if depletion of Ni is due to fusion-fission or just fission, then Ni61 would become the majority of the nickel in the ash.. On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: > There may not be any transmutation of Ni at al

Re: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-08 Thread Bob Higgins
There may not be any transmutation of Ni at all. Read Norman Cook's paper from ICCF-18. There could be isotope dependent depletion of Ni due to fusion-fission or just fission. This would completely change the isotope ratios with no shuttling between one Ni isotope and any other. The Ni transmut

Re: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-08 Thread Axil Axil
The reactor will run for as long as the micro powder remains nickel, as long as the nickel is not Ni61, a non zero spin nucleus. I still believe that hydrogen is the fuel that is being consumed. Rossi has not yet found a way to protect his powder and lithium from destructive transmutation. On Wed,

RE: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-08 Thread Robert Ellefson
Er, s/Ni68/Ni62/g :-) > -Original Message- > From: Robert Ellefson [mailto:vortex-h...@e2ke.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:02 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be > absent > > > One observation that