Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-23 Thread H LV
Cool! Harry On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:21 PM MSF wrote: > > How to make dry ice with a fire extinguisher: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLNHDxd6nDc > > How to make dry ice with a paintball tank: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7U2CbxfMMk > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-23 Thread Jones Beene
Harry Another surprising source of cold air would be from the Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube. The problem is that the vortex tube is not very efficient since the hot side flow is usually wasted. It might be possible to combine a parabolic reflector with a vortex tube in series if one needed

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-23 Thread H LV
Here is a similar investigation using parabolic and elliptical reflectors and also a simple reflector with flat sides sloping at 45 degrees. With the parabolic reflector they managed to a cool an emitter 20 degrees below ambient temperature at night. The elliptical reflector was almost as good.

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-23 Thread H LV
Sorry please forget that question.. I forgot that my mail from vortex was going into a separate folder. Harry I wrote: > btw, when I reply to a message the vortex list does not return my > reply so I have to check the website > to see if it was received. Is this normal now? > >

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-23 Thread H LV
Whoa Jones! If the sky can be considered a cold dome, and if frigorific radiation follows the rules of geometric optics then when an elliptical reflector is pointed at the sky this is similar to placing a cold body at the reflector's near focus F1. The cooling rays that happen to pass through

Re: dry ice at Burning Man Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-23 Thread H LV
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 8:24 PM William Beaty wrote: > > > Buy slab-type, slabs kept in a stack to avoid internal convection. > > Buy an Al mylar "space blanket" and wrap the slab-stack in many layers. > > Best is to store the whole thing in a thick styrofoam box placed inside > a bigger

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-23 Thread H LV
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 8:30 PM William Beaty wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, H LV wrote: > > > Does anyone here have experience transporting and storing dry ice? > > First, call the seafood section of any local supermarket, and ask if they > sell dry ice. If they don't, they probably know who

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-21 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 21 Jan 2022, MSF wrote: It seems as if you are going to do some serious experimenting, and would have to make that 5 hour trek more often than you would like. You could save yourself a lot of time and gasoline if you just made your own dry ice. If the dry ice is coming from a

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-21 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, H LV wrote: Does anyone here have experience transporting and storing dry ice? First, call the seafood section of any local supermarket, and ask if they sell dry ice. If they don't, they probably know who does (since people know to call seafood suppliers when searching

dry ice at Burning Man Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-21 Thread William Beaty
Buy slab-type, slabs kept in a stack to avoid internal convection. Buy an Al mylar "space blanket" and wrap the slab-stack in many layers. Best is to store the whole thing in a thick styrofoam box placed inside a bigger drinks-cooler. Doing that, you can make 20lbs last for over a week.

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-21 Thread MSF
How to make dry ice with a fire extinguisher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLNHDxd6nDc How to make dry ice with a paintball tank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7U2CbxfMMk ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, January 21st, 2022 at 8:08 PM, MSF wrote: > It seems as if you are

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-21 Thread MSF
It seems as if you are going to do some serious experimenting, and would have to make that 5 hour trek more often than you would like. You could save yourself a lot of time and gasoline if you just made your own dry ice. It's pretty simple. You can buy the whole setup. It's basically a canvas

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
Of interest: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262806145_Blue_Sky_Cooling_for_Parabolic_Trough_Plants

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-21 Thread H LV
Thanks. The same supplier also makes liquid nitrogen, although if I use liquid nitrogen then I would have to buy a special vessel. For a few years now I have been thinking about redoing a key experiment in the development of radiation theory and then following it up with an experimental

Re: [Vo]:Dry Ice

2022-01-20 Thread MSF
When transporting or storing dry ice, styrofoam is your friend. A Dewar flask would be preferable, but only thermos bottles are commonly available, and a lot of them are no longer Dewars. A styrofoam cooler would probably make your dry ice last the 2 1/2 hour trip as long as it's full. Large