Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-14 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:45:19 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] A blast years in advance might spread the material in both time and space sufficiently to protect us. You have to be a little careful here. If it's too far in advance, and the blast doesn't accelerate the

RE: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-14 Thread Jones Beene
Is this an overlooked possibility... ? A few meteorites/asteroids are composed of nickel-iron-cobalt and are essentially large ferromagnets. None has reached our surface as a strong permanent magnet AFAIK (unless that part of the Excalibur myth). Even if one became permanently magnetized on its

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-14 Thread David Roberson
@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 5:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:45:19 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] A blast years in advance might spread the material in both time and space sufficiently to protect us. You have

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-13 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:10:12 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] I realized I was preaching to the choir a bit with my broken up asteroid versus one big bad one. But, I actually do think that the total amount of energy deposited into the atmosphere and ground would be

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-13 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 1:28 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:10:12 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] I realized I was preaching to the choir a bit

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
:_e({}, 'cvml', 'vortex-l@eskimo.com'); Sent: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 10:51 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info In reply to de Bivort Lawrence's message of Thu, 7 Feb 2013 23:28:29 -0500: Hi, Wouldn't blowing up an asteroid merely create a lot of smaller pieces raining down on earth

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread David Roberson
trouble. Dave -Original Message- From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:51 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info Guys, Just a thought experiment I had since we are near a solar maxima. If the average CME is a billion

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:51 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, Just a thought experiment I had since we are near a solar maxima. If the average CME is a billion tons and three per day occur on average somewhere on the surface during maxima, moving between 30 and 3000

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
We are a tiny target but we do have a gravity field and solar wind connecting us that should make us appear a little mo Bigga? Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Sunday, February 10, 2013, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:51 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread David Roberson
, 2013 11:54 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info We are a tiny target but we do have a gravity field and solar wind connecting us that should make us appear a little mo Bigga? Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Sunday, February 10, 2013, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:51

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'cheme...@gmail.com'); To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'vortex-l@eskimo.com'); Sent: Sun, Feb 10, 2013 11:54 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info We are a tiny target but we do have a gravity field and solar wind connecting us

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Feb 10, 2013, at 9:03, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: how come the inner solar sytem, over millions of years is not littered with millions of Mount Everest chunks and sub chunks of debris everywhere? The reference to Mt Everest is perhaps a little misleading. Better would be Mt

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
The 1859 carrington event was followed by 1860, the year of meteors, is that the kind of diffuse plasma you are referring too? On Sunday, February 10, 2013, Eric Walker wrote: On Feb 10, 2013, at 9:03, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: how come the inner solar sytem, over

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:45:07 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] I think you need to take into account that the Earth is a very tiny target at our distance from the sun. Perhaps you should calculate roughly how much of that CME actually impacts us per unit of surface

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread David Roberson
the two scenarios? Dave -Original Message- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:32 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:45:07 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] I think you need

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:10 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I realized I was preaching to the choir a bit with my broken up asteroid versus one big bad one. But, I actually do think that the total amount of energy deposited into the atmosphere and ground would be the same in

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
It just seems to me that 1 CME avg per day x 1.2 Billion Tons/CME x 4.5 Billion Years old x 365 days/year = LOTS OF ordinary STUFF floating around the solar system. Of course I am thinking lots of it is collapsed matter but what do I know. Stewart On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-10 Thread David Roberson
: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:10 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I realized I was preaching to the choir a bit with my broken up asteroid versus one big bad one. But, I actually do think that the total amount of energy deposited into the atmosphere

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-09 Thread mixent
In reply to de Bivort Lawrence's message of Thu, 7 Feb 2013 23:28:29 -0500: Hi, Wouldn't blowing up an asteroid merely create a lot of smaller pieces raining down on earth, with only a few deflected into non-collision paths. If the pieces are small enough, they will burn up in the atmosphere

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-09 Thread David Roberson
the same as that in one. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 10:51 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info In reply to de Bivort Lawrence's message of Thu, 7 Feb 2013 23:28:29 -0500: Hi, Wouldn't

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-08 Thread Rob Dingemans
Hi, On 7-2-2013 22:19, Jed Rothwell wrote: I don't know why this is in the Business section. That does not surprise me at all, as it may have an incredible huge impact on the way (some of) the traders may react. Kind regards, Rob

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-07 Thread David Roberson
That is scary! Now I know what it feels like to be just out of range of a mad shooter. I fear that one day he will get lucky and we will have a new problem to solve. If this one was just discovered last February then how many more are waiting on the sidelines? Yipes. Dave -Original

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: If this one was just discovered last February then how many more are waiting on the sidelines? NASA and others are taking the problem seriously. See their Near-Earth Object Project: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ http://www.spaceguarduk.com/ Part of the

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-07 Thread Vorl Bek
If we have the ability to deflect large objects, we would probably have the ability simply to nuke them with a 20 megaton bomb and turn them into gravel (presumably). In fact, my vague impression is that we have that ability now or could have it within a decade. A 'spaceguard' of orbiting nukes,

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-07 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 6:52 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info If we have the ability to deflect large objects, we would probably have the ability simply to nuke them with a 20 megaton

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have read that it would be difficult to stop rocks with nuclear bombs. It is not practical to fly the bomb at the thing and detonate it the moment they are close, with a proximity fuse. Large, heavy objects often survived above ground nuclear explosions intact. I think no matter what technique

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-07 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote: A 'spaceguard' of orbiting nukes, at varying distances from the earth, at the orbit of the moon and much farther, would give us the ability to meet the objects at a safe distance from earth. I think this would be difficult

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-07 Thread de Bivort Lawrence
Wouldn't blowing up an asteroid merely create a lot of smaller pieces raining down on earth, with only a few deflected into non-collision paths. Maybe a better solution would be a space tug, which would go out, hook up the asteroid and begin tugging it out of the collision trajectory. Another