RE: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-26 Thread Jones Beene
Stephen, One way that the “fifth force” (or sixth, since the fifth force is already spoken for) could be relevant to LENR relates to Takahashi’s TSC theory, or a revised version of it. This involves a Tetrahedral Symmetric Condensate … which, of course, has four vertices, or four active

Re: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-26 Thread Stephen Cooke
Very interesting especially if a new force is implied. I do wonder though if the neutron cross- section is implicated somehow. This can also have a size several times that of the nucleus. Although Li7 has even number of neutrons which would have a neutron cross-section smaller than Li6 say I

Re: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomalous_magnetic_dipole_moment both the muon and the tau have dipole monments that don't add up in the standard model. This is what the dark force is all about... The search for dark photons and the g-2 anomaly

Re: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-25 Thread a.ashfield
The whole idea of a particle like a boson holding things together seems to make little sense, unless particle is a bad name and it is like Carver Mead's idea that an electron can be infinitely long.

Re: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin%E2%80%93charge_separation The electron may be forming from the two more fundamental electron parts that show symmetry breaking at this 140 degree angle. This pre election might be a twister that contains all the fundamental parts of the electron and positron all

Re: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-25 Thread John Berry
I should have said: And that only as a group and or over time or at a distance does the fields become a smooth inverse square with no irregularities, perturbations or features. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:56 PM, John Berry wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something here, but

Re: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-25 Thread John Berry
Maybe I'm missing something here, but all this strong, weak and 5th force nonsense... Couldn't it simply be that the electric field from a single subatomic particle isn't a perfect inverse square law field on the micro-scale especially at a single point in time, but has perturbations. maybe an

Re: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
Thanks Russ, a great find. A new boson must carry a new force since bosons are force carriers. But I wonder if this force could be something that comes out of the dirac equations that has not been seen before experimentally, Maybe this new particle is carrying the monopole charge? The

RE: [Vo]:New force couples electron to neutron

2016-05-25 Thread Jones Beene
Wow. This could definitely have implications for LENR. Surprised there is not more mention of it in the science news. SLAC has concluded that the particle could carry an extremely short-range force that acts over distances only several times the width of an atomic nucleus. This could be