[Vo]:CNN.COM VIDEO: Fill 'er up with pond scum ... from desert?

2008-04-14 Thread OrionWorks
Enjoy! http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/international/2008/04/13/obrien.us.pond.scum.cnn http://tinyurl.com/4wov4y Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

[Vo]:CNN video of Vertigro algae factory

2008-04-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/international/2008/04/13/obrien.us.po nd.scum.cnn

Re: [Vo]:Cavitation Weapon

2008-04-14 Thread David Jonsson
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hunting with a cavitation pistol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oCRJSGVIrs This shrimp has great aim. Very intersting but I don't see that the cavitation is the actual effect. This shrimp produces a wave wich hits

Re: [Vo]:Cavitation Weapon

2008-04-14 Thread OrionWorks
David Jonsson ses: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hunting with a cavitation pistol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oCRJSGVIrs This shrimp has great aim. Very intersting but I don't see that the cavitation is the actual effect. This shrimp

[Vo]:Eye of the Gyre (was Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy')

2008-04-14 Thread Michel Jullian
Jones, Michael and all future friends of the Gyre Algaculture Company (Vortigro ? ;-), I am afraid that the Canary islands would probably be the worst possible harvesting location for our North Atlantic Gyre farming operation. I have found this map of the sargassum distribution at

Re: [Vo]:Cavitation Weapon

2008-04-14 Thread Terry Blanton
More on the pistol shrimp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_shrimp the collapsing cavitation bubble includes the requisite sonoluminescence! Terry On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:41 AM, David Jonsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Vo]:[OT]Sony Wins One

2008-04-14 Thread Terry Blanton
Gnorts, Vorts! Even though Betamax was superior to VHS in many ways, the economic advantage of the VHS transport mechanism beat out the superior quality of Betamax. With the announcement by Blockbuster that it would only stock Blu-ray HD vids, Toshiba and Microsoft's HD DVD was history. Indeed,

Re: [Vo]:Cavitation Weapon

2008-04-14 Thread Terry Blanton
More on the pistol shrimp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_shrimp the collapsing cavitation bubble includes the requisite sonoluminescence! Terry On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:41 AM, David Jonsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Vo]:CNN video of Vertigro algae factory

2008-04-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
The video link I tried to send is the same one OrionWorks successfully sent. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
--- Michel The Pacific Gyre, from the site you found - looks like we can harvest plastic ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch Jones BTW a 'gyre' is a kind of 'vortex' ... bit of serendipity there...

Re: [Vo]:CNN video of Vertigro algae factory

2008-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
It is also nearly the same video from last week which initiated 'The ultimate in renewable energy' thread ... Did anyone find any extra information in there this time around? Drinkability comes to mind ;-) ... ...kinda reminds me of that awful stuff sold in health food bars - the wheat grass

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Sony Wins One

2008-04-14 Thread Michael Foster
--- On Mon, 4/14/08, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gnorts, Vorts! Even though Betamax was superior to VHS in many ways, the economic advantage of the VHS transport mechanism beat out the superior quality of Betamax. With the announcement by Blockbuster that it would only

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Sony Wins One

2008-04-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a video in bad taste, but hysterical: HD DVD losing the High-Def War vs blue Ray http://youtube.com/watch?v=ywWfmRdOmJ0 This is a re-purposing of the Hitler bunker scene in the movie Downfall, which I highly recommend -- as a movie, that is. My favorite line: Don't worry dear, Bill

[Vo]:Riots, instability spread as food prices skyrocket

2008-04-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Many experts, such as Pimentel, saw this coming years ago. Our policies led directly to it, which is a disgrace and a crime against humanity. See: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/04/14/world.food.crisis/index.html Some quotes: The issue is also fueling a rising debate over how much

[Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-14 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Eye of the Gyre --- Michel The Pacific Gyre, from the site you found - looks like we can harvest plastic ;-)

Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
--- Michel Jullian wrote: So, how do you like this place for our North Atlantic operations headquarters: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=bermuda+islandjsv=107sll=32.324276,-66.796875sspn=43.078993,56.953125ie=UTF8ll=32.301063,-64.786377spn=21.796966,28.476562t=hz=5 ... only

[Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-14 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre --- Michel Jullian wrote: So, how do you like this place for our North Atlantic operations headquarters:

Re: [Vo]:Riots, instability spread as food prices skyrocket

2008-04-14 Thread Michael Foster
--- On Mon, 4/14/08, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Vo]:Riots, instability spread as food prices skyrocket To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 14, 2008, 2:07 PM Many experts, such as Pimentel, saw this coming years ago. Our

[Vo]:Sargassum for ethanol experimented in Taiwan

2008-04-14 Thread Michel Jullian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel#Algal_strains mentions Sargassum, with a link to this recent article: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2008/01/12/2003396760 Summary: Sargassum is a high growth species (10 times the output volume of gracilaria), convertible to ethanol.

[Vo]:...now for something completely different

2008-04-14 Thread Harry Veeder
If anyone cares to comment I would appreciate it. While considering a method to study the motion of a curling stone in an alternate frame of reference I noticed that if the rotational speed of a curling stone where it touches the ice is less than its translational speed (system A), it is possible

Re: [Vo]:CNN video of Vertigro algae factory

2008-04-14 Thread Michael Foster
Jones wrote: I want them to be accurate (100,000 gallons per acre of oil and 700,000 pound of algae protein) but I fear that they are inflated. I had no idea algae were nitrogen fixating organisms, which they would have to be to produce so much protein. I thought the bulk of the non-lipid

Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-14 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:02:43 +0200: Hi, [snip] I have a vague recollection of the Sargasso see being a protected marine environment. That may restrict what you can do. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.

Re: [Vo]:Riots, instability spread as food prices skyrocket

2008-04-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jed Rothwell wrote: Some environmental groups reject the focus on ethanol in examining food prices. This is sophistry at its finest: The contrived food vs. fuel debate has reared its ugly head once again, the Renewable Fuels Association says on its Web site, adding that numerous

Re: [Vo]:Sargassum for ethanol experimented in Taiwan

2008-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
--- Michel Jullian wrote: Summary: Sargassum is a high growth species (10 times the output volume of gracilaria), convertible to ethanol. Well - to be precise, any biofuel system should aim for butanol instead of ethanol... Butanol is highly preferable for several reasons already mentioned

Re: [Vo]:Sargassum for ethanol experimented in Taiwan

2008-04-14 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, The nation is absolutely overloaded with technology but getting the bits and pieces fitted together takes teamwork which is an absentee to the equation. The wine, vinegar and beer brewers alone have some adanced tech tricks they could add.. plus the petro refiners have a whole

Re: [Vo]:Cavitation Weapon

2008-04-14 Thread thomas malloy
Terry Blanton wrote: More on the pistol shrimp: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hunting with a cavitation pistol: I was amazed that the cavitation effect would travel a distance and have an effect. OTOH, various researchers have sited

Re: [Vo]:Riots, instability spread as food prices skyrocket

2008-04-14 Thread thomas malloy
Jed Rothwell wrote: Many experts, such as Pimentel, saw this coming years ago. Our policies led directly to it, which is a disgrace and a \ Analysts agree the cost of fuel is among the reasons for the skyrocketing prices. OTOH, there's several ethanol production facilities in the works