RE: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

There is a report that the Chinese CAST version of the EM drive is a stacked series of drives…. Does this mean that the Chinese have seen a multiplier effect when directing the ‘thrust’ as feed into a second drive? Or is it just a convenient means to conserve space? From: Stephen A.

Re: [Vo]:Greek version of Rossi on PBS

Terry, Here is a video of an older device, showing the basic setup - curiously using microwaves. The amount of gas is indeed impressive but there is no valid proof or even raw data to show that it could be anomalous. Plus- he is not being clear that there is a metal electrode - which is

Re: [Vo]:Greek version of Rossi on PBS

He says he is using Terahertz radiation. I has a frequency that is orders of magnitude higher than microwave. That's the frequency of nano-meter cold fusion operation. He does not state how he produces the terahertz radiation. Frank -Original Message- From: Jones Beene

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

I share your reservations Stephen. Of course, if the Chinese actually state that they have a working device I wanted to know the details. Strange things do happen on occasion. Dave -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence To: vortex-l

Fwd: [Vo]:Greek version of Rossi on PBS

This video said microwaves. The other said terahertz radiation. I noticed that the hydrogen burned. When water is split hydrogen and oxygen are produced. This mixture explodes with a poping noise. For the combustion that the video shows the oxygen must have been be removed from the gas

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

Dave, The secondhand news is that it is not working in space FWIW. http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=41732.msg1623141#msg1623141 Jack On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 1:08 AM David Roberson wrote: > Russ, > > Can you verify that the Chinese actually have a

RE: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

That ‘secondhand news’ from the NASA forum is clearly described as completely unsubstantiated speculation…. But then that’s what social media trolling is all about. ALL that has been reported to have been said by the Chinese is that the test “is not smooth” with no explanation as to what

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

I've seen some calculations showing that there is a toroidal electric field within the device. I wonder if the movement is due the pull of the magnetic field of the Earth. 2016-12-28 16:43 GMT-02:00 Stephen A. Lawrence : > Just to point something out -- the EM drive *obviously*

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

That's interesting. That would resolve the conservation violations. On 12/28/2016 01:54 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: I've seen some calculations showing that there is a toroidal electric field within the device. I wonder if the movement is due the pull of the magnetic field of the Earth.

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

Just to point something out -- the EM drive /obviously/ doesn't need to be outside the craft to work, since it doesn't eject mass. Furthermore (and consequently), it violates conservation of momentum, conservation of angular momentum, conservation of energy, and conservation of mass. While

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

The example sounds like a planet in orbit. Does gravity violate all the conservation laws. Could the EMDrive use a forms of ,modified gravity...dark matter... to spin the EmDrive around in an orbit? On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Just to point

[Vo]:let's make 2017 the annus mirabilis of LENR

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Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Just to point something out -- the EM drive *obviously* doesn't need to be > outside the craft to work, since it doesn't eject mass. > > Furthermore (and consequently), it violates conservation of momentum, >

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

Eric Walker wrote: > One possibility is that the EM Drive may be ejecting mass, not in the form > of baryons, but in the form of leptons, namely, neutrinos . . . > That might be tricky to test for. For ordinary particles, you would put the thing in a box and see if it

Re: [Vo]:EM Drive need not be outside the spacecraft

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Eric Walker wrote: > > >> One possibility is that the EM Drive may be ejecting mass, not in the >> form of baryons, but in the form of leptons, namely, neutrinos . . . >> > > That might be tricky

Re: [Vo]:Greek version of Rossi on PBS

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > PETROS ZOGRAFOS is a Greek inventor who claims to split water in a way to > get more energy out than was put into the system. Transcript: http://www.off-grid.net/power-tap-water/