Re: [Vo]:Need help with Savvatimova Table

[mixent]

In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:52:36 -0500:
Hi Jed,

Can't you ask the author for a photo copy of the original document?

[snip]
>I recently purchased a new copy of Adobe Acrobat. It does a better job
>converting old documents. They look better and the underlying text has
>fewer OCR errors.
>
>I decided to rescan some of the large books. I am working on ICCF-5. When I
>prepared this book I retyped several papers from scratch and added them to
>the Acrobat file. There are no errors and they are easy to read. One of
>them is Savvatimova, p. 213:
>
>http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/PonsSproceedinga.pdf#page=14
>
>Unfortunately, there is a table on p. 217 that was very poorly reproduced.
>I can hardly read it. Perhaps someone with sharper eyes or better knowledge
>of secondary ion mass spectroscopy can make out what it says.
>
>I cannot upload images or Acrobat files here, so if you would like to
>assist please see:
>
>https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5770-need-help-with-savvatimova-table/#post98029
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Need help with Savvatimova Table

[Jed Rothwell]

Ah, ha. I may have found her e-mail address. Ain't the internet wonderful?

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Need help with Savvatimova Table

[Jed Rothwell]

 wrote:


> Can't you ask the author for a photo copy of the original document?
>

I can't find her e-mail address. I haven't heard from her in a long time.

She might not have a copy. However, someone pointed out to me that some of
the data is repeated in these two papers:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Savvatimovinfluenceo.pdf

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Savvatimovinfluenceo.pdf

They are linked by the sample numbers, such as 1666, 1667, 1668 . . .

- Jed

[Vo]:Need help with Savvatimova Table

[Jed Rothwell]

I recently purchased a new copy of Adobe Acrobat. It does a better job
converting old documents. They look better and the underlying text has
fewer OCR errors.

I decided to rescan some of the large books. I am working on ICCF-5. When I
prepared this book I retyped several papers from scratch and added them to
the Acrobat file. There are no errors and they are easy to read. One of
them is Savvatimova, p. 213:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/PonsSproceedinga.pdf#page=14

Unfortunately, there is a table on p. 217 that was very poorly reproduced.
I can hardly read it. Perhaps someone with sharper eyes or better knowledge
of secondary ion mass spectroscopy can make out what it says.

I cannot upload images or Acrobat files here, so if you would like to
assist please see:

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5770-need-help-with-savvatimova-table/#post98029

Re: [Vo]:Yokose et al. report 3 kW peak power from Cu-Ni-Zn composite

[Brian Ahern]

I reported a similar runaway with Nano nickel powder at 10nm in my 2012 EPRI 
report.



From: Arnaud Kodeck 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:52 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Yokose et al. report 3 kW peak power from Cu-Ni-Zn composite


At ICCF21, JBP was also reporting such runaway event with PdNiZr powder. The 
quantity of PdNiZr was about 100g when the runaway occurred. The runaway 
phenomena stopped when temperature reached ~450°C which is the upper limit for 
this kind of powder. The difference is that the runaway started from room 
temperature. No heat had been feed to the reactor.



The colour of the powder(black) was exactly the same as JPB had after the 
runaway. Normally this powder is metallic grey after deoxidation not black.



Arnaud



From: Jed Rothwell 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:13
To: Vortex 
Subject: [Vo]:Yokose et al. report 3 kW peak power from Cu-Ni-Zn composite



See:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328547673_Anomalous_Heat_Burst_by_CNZ7_Sample_and_H-Gas

My comment:

The sample is ~1 kg. That is much more material than you were using years ago. 
That's good! I am very pleased to see that people are increasing the mass of 
reactant. I believe that is why the level of heat increased. I believe more 
heat comes from a larger number of active sites.

Okay, that may seem like an odd thing to say. It may seem obvious that heat 
will increase as the mass of reactant increases. But I do not think that has 
been tested -- or demonstrated -- up until now. We just assumed that is how it 
works.

Even what we consider obvious aspects of the phenomenon should be tested. It is 
possible that a giant mass of reactant might have no active sites. Or it might 
sinter and stop working.

I am pleased to see larger samples being tested, but that does not mean small 
scale tests such as Beiting and Staker are useless. They do superb calorimetry 
and their signal to noise ratio is high, so there is much to be learned from 
their tests as well. I am glad to see high s/n small-scale tests AND glad to 
see scaled-up tests. Both are valuable.

Note that Staker also reported run-away heat events. I believe they are roughly 
similar in scale to this, when you adjust for the amount of reactant and 
surface area.



Beiting:



http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BeitingEinvestigat.pdf



Staker:



http://coldfusioncommunity.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ICCF21_Staker_2_Oct_2018.pdf



- Jed

RE: [Vo]:Richard Jowsey

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Nigel and Robin—

How does Jowsey handle electric charge?

And how is icharge associated with mass?

Is there a relation between gravity and the electric/magnetic field that fills 
the vacuum?



I like Jessup’s explanations .



Bob




From: mix...@bigpond.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 1:20:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Richard Jowsey

In reply to  Nigel Dyer's message of Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:22:41 +:
Hi,

This is brilliant.
[snip]
>I have just come across the work of Richard Jowsey
>
>http://www.jowsey.org/physics/
>
>For some time I have been thinking that it should be possible to create
>a space-time model that has something of this form.  It certainly seems
>to match in well with some of the other ideas I have been looking at.
>Nigel
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Richard Jowsey

[ROGER ANDERTON]

 unified field theory first published 1758 by Boscovich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIUqdAYL_yk
On Wednesday, 21 November 2018, 16:14:23 GMT, Nigel Dyer 
 wrote:  
 
  
Bob
 I think that the thing to bear in mind is that Richard has started with 
relativity, and appears to be heading towards the smaller scale given that on 
ResearchGate he says that is current project is a unified field theory, which 
is where I think some of these questions might be answered.
 I think that the answers are likely to have more than a hint of Jessup in them.
 
Nigel
 
 
 On 21/11/2018 15:54, bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
 
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Nigel and Robin—
 
How does Jowsey handle electric charge?  
 
And how is icharge associated with mass?  
 
Is there a relation between gravity and the electric/magnetic field that fills 
the vacuum?
 
 
 
I like Jessup’s explanations .
 
 
 
Bob
 
 
   From: mix...@bigpond.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 1:20:01 PM
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Richard Jowsey  In reply to  Nigel Dyer's message of 
Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:22:41 +:
 Hi,
 
 This is brilliant.
 [snip]
 >I have just come across the work of Richard Jowsey
 >
 >http://www.jowsey.org/physics/
 >
 >For some time I have been thinking that it should be possible to create 
 >a space-time model that has something of this form.  It certainly seems 
 >to match in well with some of the other ideas I have been looking at.
 >Nigel
 Regards,
 
 
 Robin van Spaandonk
 
 local asymmetry = temporary success
 
  
   

Re: [Vo]:Richard Jowsey

[Nigel Dyer]

Bob
I think that the thing to bear in mind is that Richard has started with 
relativity, and appears to be heading towards the smaller scale given 
that on ResearchGate he says that is current project is a unified field 
theory, which is where I think some of these questions might be answered.
I think that the answers are likely to have more than a hint of Jessup 
in them.


Nigel


On 21/11/2018 15:54, bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote:


Nigel and Robin—

How does Jowsey handle electric charge?

And how is icharge associated with mass?

Is there a relation between gravity and the electric/magnetic field 
that fills the vacuum?


I like Jessup’s explanations .

Bob


*From:* mix...@bigpond.com 
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2018 1:20:01 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Richard Jowsey
In reply to  Nigel Dyer's message of Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:22:41 +:
Hi,

This is brilliant.
[snip]
>I have just come across the work of Richard Jowsey
>
>http://www.jowsey.org/physics/
>
>For some time I have been thinking that it should be possible to create
>a space-time model that has something of this form.  It certainly seems
>to match in well with some of the other ideas I have been looking at.
>Nigel
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success