Re: Cold Fusion Supernova 1987A

2006-03-16 Thread Frederick Sparber
About 24 hours after the flash of light (and gamma rays) from Supernova 1987A about 150,000 light-years from earth in the Magellanic Cloud were observed, ~ 1.0 eV rest mass neutrinos from it were picked up by the Japanese Super-Kamiokande neutrino detector. The enormous electron - proton (Eo

Re: Cold Fusion Supernova 1987A

2006-03-16 Thread Frederick Sparber
Recent Chandra x-ray photos of 1987A. One of those in our Galaxy and we're history. http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2005/sn87a/ "Recent Chandra observations have revealed new details about the fiery ring surrounding the stellar explosion that produced Supernova 1987A. The data give insight

Re: Cold Fusion Supernova 1987A

2006-03-16 Thread Michel Jullian
Very interesting Fred, a pity we can't evaluate those velocities precisely, it would tell us exactly when it is not advisable to fly a plane :) Michel - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:56

Re: Cold Fusion Supernova 1987A

2006-03-16 Thread Frederick Sparber
Even at our 5,000 ft altitude we get more cosmic rays and EUV than low-landers, Michel. This Does Antimatter Fall Up or Down? article is of interest too. http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/antimatterFall.html In theory, antimatter dropped over the surface of the Earth

Re: Efimov state - key to multi-nuclear LENR?

2006-03-16 Thread Grimer
At 10:16 pm 15/03/2006 -0900, Horace wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060315174950.htm This ring means that three objects are entangled. If you pick up any one of them, the other two will follow. However, if you cut one of them off, the other two will fall apart, Chin

Re: Efimov state - key to multi-nuclear LENR?

2006-03-16 Thread RC Macaulay
Howdy Frank, Which is also an excellent theoretical description of the principle of the Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube. Richard - Original Message - From: Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: Re: Efimov state - key to

Re: Efimov state - key to multi-nuclear LENR?

2006-03-16 Thread Grimer
At 07:47 am 16/03/2006 -0600, you wrote: Howdy Frank, Which is also an excellent theoretical description of the principle of the Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube. Richard I see what you mean. You got there before I did. But with all your very tangible experience of such phenomena - that is

Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a simple comparison of electric vehicle versus gasoline vehicle cost per mile. Gasoline vehicle Gasoline cost: $2.36 (EIA average for U.S. as of 3/13/06) Average vehicle mpg: 22 mpg (DoE 2002 data) Cost per mile: 10.7 cents Prius gasoline mode: 45 mpg (Actual Atlanta in-town

Re: Efimov state - key to multi-nuclear LENR?

2006-03-16 Thread Jones Beene
This ring means that three objects are entangled. If you pick up any one of them, the other two will follow. However, if you cut one of them off, the other two will fall apart, Chin said. There is something magic about this number of three. Ha! In a number of past posts I have tried to wax

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Craig Haynie
Jed wrote: Electricity: 8 cents kWh You're only paying 8 cents per KWH. I'm paying something like 13.4 cents per KWH. Craig Haynie (Houston)

Not so Simple comparison: electric car versus human hybrid

2006-03-16 Thread Jones Beene
JR: Prius gasoline mode: 45 mpg (Actual Atlanta in-town performance Jed's car) Cost per mile: 5.2 cents For you younger Vo's - and esp those on a eco-trip or severe budget - who want to get that cost down to under a penny per mile AND look better, feel better, and all those win-win things?

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Craig Haynie You're only paying 8 cents per KWH. I'm paying something like 13.4 cents per KWH.  I pay the co-op, Jackson EMC, 9.4 cents plus sales tax in the Atlanta suburbs. Keith pays Con Ed 20 cents in Brooklyn. If those ultracaps that Zell told

RE: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Keith Nagel
I'll see your 13.4 cents, and raise you to 22 cents ( this includes the delivery costs, BTW ). Also, for Phil Winestone, I can appreciate your comments about counting the PV's that can fit on the head of a pin but given the insane cost I am now paying for electricity, you might plug through those

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Craig Haynie wrote: You're only paying 8 cents per KWH. I'm paying something like 13.4 cents per KWH. Here is a map showing residential electric power costs in different states: http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/brochure/electricity/electricity.html The national average in 2003 was just over 8

Re: Not so Simple comparison: electric car versus human hybrid

2006-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: For you younger Vo's - and esp those on a eco-trip or severe budget - who want to get that cost down to under a penny per mile AND look better, feel better, and all those win-win things? Yes, it lives. It is the *Human Electric* Hybrid Drive. Yes. For Americans, this

FW: Atoms behave like Three Musketeers

2006-03-16 Thread Mark Goldes
All for one, one for all: Atoms behave like Three Musketeers URL: http://www.physorg.com/news11817.html

Whoops - Jones was way ahead of me!

2006-03-16 Thread Mark Goldes
My last post was preceded by a much more comprehensive one by Jones. Sorry... Mark

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 16, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Plug-in Prius while running as purely electric vehicle, cost per mile: ~2.6 cents * We may get away with that for a while, but sooner or later the states have to find a way to pay for the road maintenance currently paid for by gas

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: We may get away with that for a while, but sooner or later the states have to find a way to pay for the road maintenance currently paid for by gas taxes. Meanwhile, the lack of road taxes on electricity is a great and automatic incentive. I had not thought of that.

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Michel Jullian
Jed you made an excellent point here, as amazing as it may seem no additional generator capacity would be needed (if your maths are right which they seem to be). Michel - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006

RE: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Zell, Chris
This lack of additional generating capacity need is partly why a Really Good Battery would have such a dramatic effect on society. You create electric cars that run much cheaper per mile without much need for additional fossil fuel generator use. Indeed, I think that such a device would

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: Jed you made an excellent point here, as amazing as it may seem no additional generator capacity would be needed (if your maths are right which they seem to be). Actually, several authors have pointed this out and they have done more sophisticated analyses. I just ran

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Michel Jullian
There may be no wind power in Georgia, but your electricity network may be interconnected with other networks far away where there is wind power, that's the nicety of these networks (makes up for their ugliness). Now would potential US wind power be enough to recharge all US automobiles at

RE: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Zell, Chris wrote: This lack of additional generating capacity need is partly why a Really Good Battery would have such a dramatic effect on society. You create electric cars that run much cheaper per mile without much need for additional fossil fuel generator use. Indeed, I think that

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Michel Jullian
Indeed those 310Wh/Kg EEStor ceramic ultracaps we discussed the other day, or similar, would just make the difference between an all-gasoline and an all-electric car society. Present best Lithium Polymers with their 185Wh/Kg are just not enough, they would allow 2h autonomy only IIRC, and

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: There may be no wind power in Georgia, but your electricity network may be interconnected with other networks far away where there is wind power, that's the nicety of these networks (makes up for their ugliness). States with significant wind resources are thousands of

Electric vehicle on-line spreadsheet

2006-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
I forgot about charger efficiency, but this spreadsheet basically confirms my estimate. Plug in the numbers for today's cost of fuel and the average distance driven (11,766 miles). See: http://www.ccds.charlotte.nc.us/~jarrett/EV/cost.php - Jed

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Now think of a 25 kW cold fusion generator. After 50 years of intense development, you can imagine one the size of today's 25 kW portable generators that costs $1,000, or maybe even $500. In a walk. An ICE costs ~40/kW of capacity, or $750 for 25 kW. After hundreds of millions of

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Michel Jullian
Jed, thanks for the link to the spreadsheet. We do exchange electricity between european countries over here, but not across 2000 miles that's for sure. I couldn't agree more about CF, I am all for it, that's why I get so frustrated that CF issues aren't addressed a bit faster and with more

Re: Electric vehicle on-line spreadsheet

2006-03-16 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:01:36 -0500: Hi, [snip] I forgot about charger efficiency, but this spreadsheet basically confirms my estimate. Plug in the numbers for today's cost of fuel and the average distance driven (11,766 miles). See:

Re: Cold Fusion Supernova 1987A]

2006-03-16 Thread Bob Fickle
A 100 GeV charged particle (electron OR proton) has a radius of curvature in the galactic field (1 microgauss avgerage) of about 3 billion km (3 light-hours). No way they're crossing galactic distances anytime soon- probably billions, rather than millions, of years... Neutrinos, sure-

Re: Cold Fusion Supernova 1987A]

2006-03-16 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 16, 2006, at 6:18 PM, Bob Fickle wrote: A 100 GeV charged particle (electron OR proton) has a radius of curvature in the galactic field (1 microgauss avgerage) of about 3 billion km (3 light-hours). No way they're crossing galactic distances anytime soon- probably billions,

Re: Cold Fusion Supernova 1987A]

2006-03-16 Thread Bob Fickle
You miss the point. They're not coming here- they're spiralling in circles about the size of the solar system, 150,000 light-years from here. They will eventually drift throughout the galaxy, but on a timescale thousands of times larger than a direct path would take. Horace Heffner wrote:

Re: Simple comparison electric car versus gasoline

2006-03-16 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 16, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: It is a shame you cannot transmit electricity 2000 miles because if you could, we could establish a massive solar thermal plant in a 100 square mile area of the Southwest desert, and generate all the electricity we now consume. Or we could

re: Solar chimney design enhancement

2006-03-16 Thread Horace Heffner
Revised for errors. The tops of solar towers, also known as solar chimneys, should be ringed with vertical layers of inverted airfoils. In windy conditions, nearly always present at high altitudes in many locations, these inverted airfoils about the periphery, with trailing edges to the

Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars

2006-03-16 Thread ThomasClark123
In a message dated 3/10/2006 8:33:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then fnord what's the point of reading?Terry When I speed read, I do pick up the general idea and remember the basic facts and figures. I then save all of the emails you post on DVD's, and print most of

Re: Efimov state - key to multi-nuclear LENR?

2006-03-16 Thread Grimer
At 09:10 am 16/03/2006 -0800, Jones wrote: This ring means that three objects are entangled. If you pick up any one of them, the other two will follow. However, if you cut one of them off, the other two will fall apart, Chin said. There is something magic about this number of three.