Re: the aluminium batery

2006-05-16 Thread john herman
NB: [1] aluminum is a great example of a light metal alkali.[2] as exhausted the result will be aluminum oxide [3] to reduce the oxide to the active metal will require work .hence... aluminum appears to be viable candidate... if reduction to metal can be made cost effective. Q: can any Vo let

Re: the aluminium batery

2006-05-16 Thread Michel Jullian
2 Al2O3(c,alumina,alpha) - 3 O2(g) + 4 Al(c) - 3351.4 kJ/mol (endothermic) Reverse reaction spontaneous at 25°C. Equilibrium at about 5073°C. I copy-pasted the above from the output of a spreadsheet I have made to work out any thermochemistry problem (maybe our host would consider uploading it

Re: Helmholtz Layer Metal-Water Interface, Joe Cell Etc

2006-05-16 Thread Frederick Sparber
A 0.1 volt "Zeta Potential" across the 0.2 nanometer Metal-Water interface is 500 million volts per meter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fowler-Nordheim_equation " The Fowler-Nordheim equation in solid state physics relates current, work and electric field strength to determine field emission.

Re: Helmholtz Layer Metal-Water Interface...

2006-05-16 Thread RC Macaulay
Howdy Fred.. An example of the effect can be seen by rubbing a piece of amber over wool. Or, in Odessa Texas where it is dry, dry, one can walk across a wool carpet in leather shoes and touch a metal doorknob. Richard

Re: Helmholtz Layer Metal-Water Interface...

2006-05-16 Thread Michel Jullian
Electric shock to revive the mosquito trapped in the amber Richard ? ;) Michel - Original Message - From: RC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Helmholtz Layer Metal-Water Interface... BlankHowdy Fred.. An example of

RE: Betteries

2006-05-16 Thread Zell, Chris
True, but in this case we are storing the best form of energy, electricity as opposed to a car engine. You might need cheaper electricity to make this gadget more than a marginal improvement over what we're stuck with now. 20% is also about the efficiency of an ICE, which is also a bit

Re: Helmholtz Layer Metal-Water Interface, Joe Cell Etc

2006-05-16 Thread Michel Jullian
I don't know what you're after Fred (power from surface effects? All I can do is confirm the e-field calculation, it's 0.5GV/m all right :) but the quotes are interesting! Michel - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May

Re: Helmholtz Layer Metal-Water Interface, Joe Cell Etc

2006-05-16 Thread Frederick Sparber
Michel Jullian wrote: I don't know what you're after Fred (power from surface effects? All I can do is confirm the e-field calculation, it's 0.5GV/m all right :) but the quotes are interesting! I'm after that ~ 80,000 joule/mole Spontaneous Free Energy in the Autoionization of Water ( 0.83 eV

Converting efficient radiation

2006-05-16 Thread Jones Beene
There is an impressive but little known body of evidence (most of it coming from laser-ICF research and the Z machine data) showing that the element Argon, when it is subject to very large inputs of energy, gives off progressively larger discharges in the soft x-ray spectrum. This spectrum

The skeptical imagination at work

2006-05-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have been watching with some amusement as the skeptics gradually devour the Cold Fusion Controversy article in Wikipedia. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion_controversy) Every day they delete a little more. It is like watching insects devour a dead animal. Naturally they are

Re: Converting efficient radiation

2006-05-16 Thread Jones Beene
Steven, Speaking of ICE designs, if this thought experiment should begin to bare promising fruit I would love to see if it could be applied to the innovative toroidal design as revealed out at Angel Labs... http://www.angellabsllc.com Hmmm... how innovative is this Angel design really ?

Re: The skeptical imagination at work

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Veeder
See these essays for a psycho-social theory of pathological scepticism. http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/16.1_leiter.pdf Quote: In fact, many ŒSkeptics¹ will not even read significantly into the literature on the subjects about which they are most skeptical. I have direct

Re: The skeptical imagination at work

2006-05-16 Thread Grimer
At 01:15 pm 16/05/2006 -0500, Harry wrote: See these essays for a psycho-social theory of pathological scepticism. http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/16.1_leiter.pdf http://www.ScientificExploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/18.4_leiter.pdf I found those essays so fascinating,

Re: Converting efficient radiation

2006-05-16 Thread OrionWorks
From Jones: Hmmm... how innovative is this Angel design really ? Isn't it little more than a spiffy version of the 40 year old Kauertz Engine (without much in the way of proper attribution, one might add)? http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/POWER/rotaryIC/rotaryIC.htm#kau Take a closer

Re: The skeptical imagination at work

2006-05-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Do you think it's worth your time to do a little restorative surgery? No. They will instantly undo any changes I make. I have sworn off of Wikipedia. It is a bad habit. The procedures there do not allow a minority view of a controversial subject such as cold

Re: Helmholtz Layer Metal-Water Interface, Joe Cell Etc

2006-05-16 Thread Frederick Sparber
Richard's off-hand quip about static electricity reminded me of an "Electrostatic Dragster"post I made along those lines 17 June 2005. One might do a lot better on Electrolysis Over-Unity by tying the negative (cathode) to Earth Ground as opposed to "floating" it using a battery supply only.

Abstract from Josephson, annoying statements by Truzzi

2006-05-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Josephson describing the PowerPoint slides he uploaded earlier. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/JosephsonBabstractfo.pdf This document comes from the web site for the lecture series Meetings of Nobel Laureates in Lindau. See: http://www.lindau-nobel.de/content/view/19/32/ This introduces