Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread leaking pen
thats basically it. it depends on if the death and disease and destruction that will be caused is worth it. (if you ask me, i get less people in the world, and beach front property here in az. WIN WIN. ) On 1/28/08, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote:

Re: [Vo]:OT: Bigfoot on Mars??

2008-01-28 Thread OrionWorks
As previously mentioned I attended an informal pot luck in the Milwaukee area last Sunday where one of the official topics of gossip, er... discussion, revolved around the recent UFO sightings down in Stephenville, Texas. According to Donald Schmitt, who has seen some of the transcripts, the

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread Harry Veeder
On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: It's the attempt to solve a problem that is important. An ill conceived solution will make matters. Let us not waste resources on crazy solutions, but use them to adapt if necessary. We cannot save civilization by

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread Harry Veeder
On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: It's the attempt to solve a problem that is important. An ill conceived solution will make matters. Let us not waste resources on crazy solutions, but use them to adapt if necessary. We cannot save civilization by

Re: [Vo]:OT: Bigfoot on Mars??

2008-01-28 Thread Harry Veeder
On 28/1/2008 2:30 PM, OrionWorks wrote: Oh, yes, I forgot to mention another bit of trivia certain vorts might appreciate knowing. The Day The Earth Stood Still is being remade, to be released this summer. Klatu will be played by Keanu Reeves. When Klatu comes down the gangplank will he

Re: [Vo]:OT: Bigfoot on Mars??

2008-01-28 Thread peatbog
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:18:13 -0600 OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The UFO was witnessed hovering stationary for approximately five minutes before it began to move - slowly at fist. But then suddenly, within a blink of an eye, it zipped towards the horizon and appeared to disappear (as if

Re: [Vo]:OT: Bigfoot on Mars??

2008-01-28 Thread OrionWorks
Oh, yes, I forgot to mention another bit of trivia certain vorts might appreciate knowing. The Day The Earth Stood Still is being remade, to be released this summer. Klatu will be played by Keanu Reeves. When Klatu comes down the gangplank will he present the inhabitants of Earth with the red

[Vo]:Stiffler Technology

2008-01-28 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; I corresponded with Ronald Stiffler. I pointed out that cold electricity, the light bulb glows and gets cold, flies in the face of conventional electrodynamic theory. This matter0 has been like an itch to me, ever since I read the physicist, Roger Hastings' report of the Newman

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Ed Storms wrote on 1-28-08: Some problems have no solution. That is not the issue. It's the attempt to solve a problem that is important. Finding a substitute for oil, for example, may not impact the climate much but it will have many other benefits ... Jack Smith writes: It is critical that

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Agreed, Jed. We are, as a species, entering an age of globalized systems, and I think tackling them will require a new set of linguistic skills. The language we use in politics and policy today is still based on national models of human organization -- one might almost say, tribal. My guess is

[Vo]:Shaugherger Vortices

2008-01-28 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; After several hours of searching, I found this and forwarded it to my neighbor. It's pretty if nothing else, eh? What I want you to look at is on http://www.implosion-ev.de/ , it is written in German, this website, so you will have to go to http://babelfish.altavista.com/ and

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
R.C.Macaulay wrote: At some point in time it becomes necessary to recognize some problems have no solution tasks and simply turn your head in a stance of inevitiability. Al Gore has profited by profiling global warming and Bono the same with Africa but neither have a solution. Africa is

[Vo]:OT: Financial Terrorism?

2008-01-28 Thread Jones Beene
Apparently, even though the Bin Laden option trades went flat 6 months ago, that huge (paper) loss did not deter a planned second-chance effort to recoup the initial loss, and create havoc in the Western economies. From a Blogger: http://11amdesign.com/wordpress/?p=285 The Federal Reserve's

RE: [Vo]:OT: Financial Terrorism?

2008-01-28 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
It would be quite a mistake to assume that terrorists are likely to be Muslim, or that Muslims are likely to be terrorists. It is true that this is what many Americans believe, and that they have been urged on in this misimpression by some who wish Muslims poorly, so let us be doubly vigilant to

Re: [Vo]:OT: Financial Terrorism?

2008-01-28 Thread Rhong Dhong
It will be interesting to find out if Kerviel has Arab (or Iranian) contacts, or has recently converted to Islam. Surely it is far more likely that Kerviel has Israeli contacts or has recently converted to Judaism. After all, it is to the advantage of Israel and its devoted Jewish supporters

[Vo]:Strictly (Sickly?) OT: anti-crusading

2008-01-28 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, the curse of the word-phreak has struck the International News desk, and with philosophical and numenous [sic] if not religious, intensity. Making sense of it all, as always, goes back-and-forth like a see-saw, ending (or beginning) with true identity of the enigmatic Jerome Kerviel.

Re: [Vo]:OT: Financial Terrorism?

2008-01-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rhong Dhong wrote: After all, it is to the advantage of Israel and its devoted Jewish supporters around the world, that the USA be hurt by what appears to be Arab and Iranian terrorists, thus sucking Bush into yet another war, this one against Iran. Comments like this are senseless

Re: [Vo]:OT: Financial Terrorism?

2008-01-28 Thread Rhong Dhong
Rhong Dhong wrote: After all, it is to the advantage of Israel and its devoted Jewish supporters around the world, that the USA be hurt by what appears to be Arab and Iranian terrorists, thus sucking Bush into yet another war, this one against Iran. Comments like this are senseless

Re: [Vo]:OT: Financial Terrorism?

2008-01-28 Thread Jones Beene
Lawrence, What you say is quite true. If one is Sunni, then the USA is the terrorist. It is easy to get carried away, and to waver out of precise focus on the details and semantics of this situation. That is, we must accept that 'guilt by association' is wrong, wrong, wrong ... and should

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread Harry Veeder
The UN security council needs to be reformed for starters. Harry On 28/1/2008 6:06 PM, Lawrence de Bivort wrote: Agreed, Jed. We are, as a species, entering an age of globalized systems, and I think tackling them will require a new set of linguistic skills. The language we use in politics

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:31:10 -0500: Hi, [snip] The UN security council needs to be reformed for starters. Harry [snip] I agree - the right of veto should be removed altogether. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Interesting. How is it inadequate now? How do you think it should be reformed? Lawrence -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:31 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al

Re: [Vo]:Strictly (Sickly?) OT: anti-crusading

2008-01-28 Thread thomas malloy
Jones Beene wrote: with true identity of the enigmatic Jerome Kerviel. BTW Kerviel, at the time of this incident, was making about one-tenth the salary of a Wall Street trader with the same responsibility; and French Banks are notorious for low bonuses. No wonder he was so easy to recruit.

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread thomas malloy
On 1/28/08, *Harry Veeder* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote: I saw a science show on Saturday that said global warming will cause the sahara to get green again, and then they called that a bad thing! How can that be

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

2008-01-28 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
I understand there are considerable sweet water aquifers under large portions of the Sahara. Lawrence -Original Message- From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:55 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse'