Re: [Vo]:GM VP reveals his true feelings

2008-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell

OrionWorks wrote:


Stating that Lutz  Co. really haven't the slightest interest in the
environmental cause is an expressed opinion as well, even if a lot of
the facts given to back up that opinion are, to say the least,
damning. . . .


I wouldn't say they haven't the slightest interest. I think all 
modern people agree that pollution is a problem. But Lutz dismisses 
global warming, which -- assuming it is real -- is a far more serious 
problem than pollution.



That is why I stated previously if Lutz  Co. continue to do what he 
claims GM is planning on doing, I personally don't care what his 
personal opinions might be. Perhaps the real question we should be 
asking ourselves is: Will Lutz  Co. keep their word in spite of 
what their true opinions might be. . . .


Agreed.


With that said, I suspect I'm in general agreement with many of the 
opinions that have been expressed in this thread. But that's just my 
opinion. ;-)


This reminds me a little of a recent hysterical column by Kinsley:


http://www.slate.com/id/2185134/

McCain and the Times: the Real Questions

My apparent concern about the appearance of the possibility of the 
appearance of a possible affair.


. . . I am not accusing the New York Times of screwing up again by 
publishing an insufficiently sourced article, then defending itself 
with a preposterous assertion that it wasn't trying to imply what it 
obviously was trying to imply. I am merely reporting that some people 
worry that other people might be concerned that the New York Times 
has created the appearance of screwing up once again. . . .


- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Nuke causes massive power outage

2008-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell

Mike Carrell wrote:

Jed, you got this wrong. The power outage was caused by a fault at a 
substation, which disturbed the network and pieces of it 
disconnected to prevent damage to eqluipment. . . .  The nuclear 
plant *did not cause the shutdown*.


Yup. Later reports confirm that. Here's one:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/27/florida.power/index.html

Florida probes how small mishaps caused massive outages

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Florida authorities are investigating how a 
small fire and a switch failure at an electrical substation outside 
Miami triggered a power failure that affected millions of people.


When a nuclear power plant sensed the disruption, it shut down. In 
turn, the state's power grid triggered rolling blackouts Tuesday 
across the state. . . .


As I said in the book, with something like cold fusion it would be 
better not to have a grid.


- Jed



[Vo]:Nelson Ying back in the news

2008-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell

This is weird:

http://www.wesh.com/education/15418063/detail.html

The event is named after Dr. Nelson Ying, whose sponsorship provides 
for a high percentage of the event's budget. Ying is a nuclear 
physicist and entrepreneur who was a leading researcher on the cold 
fusion project.


A leading researcher? In his own mind, maybe . . .

- Jed



[Vo]:A palladium, heavy water, radio frequency experiment was conducted

2008-02-27 Thread FZNIDARSIC
I believe that the coherence length is equal to the downshifted  Compton  
wavelength.

Do you have a formula for this, and how  does it differ from the definition of
the De Broglie wavelength?
 


BTW, did you notice the Fermi  velocity?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk
 
The Fermi velocities are quite high.  Electrons in the condution band  travel 
at thermal velocites which are quite a bit lower.  I not sure of the  
velocity distribution in a superconductive band.
 
As far as the coherience lenght goes, there are may ways of looking at  this. 
 We can look at the individual
pairs of electrons, as you do.  I tend to look at the entire condensed  
state.  In this state the electrons are
Indistinguishable.  They are part of the whole collective state.   It the 
ground frequency of this collective state is what I am interested  in.  
 
I would also like to know the velocity distribution of the protons in a  
proton conductor.  I believe that they travel at low thermal  velocities.  
These 
could also act as a plasma with the velocity  proportionate to
The density of the state.
 
The velocity of the state should not affect the strength of the phonons  that 
bind the state.  This binding
force is not a function of the deBroglie wavelength. It is a function  of 
spin pairing.  I'm not sure of all of the parameters involved with  spin 
pairing. 
  Cooling lowers the momentum MV of the electrons.
This momentum tends to break the bonds of the binding.  I have used  cooling 
and vibrations of a certain frequency to increase the strength of the  phonos 
that bind the condensate.
 
I need to know much more about these things.
 
Frank Znidarsic




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Re: [Vo]:GM VP reveals his true feelings

2008-02-27 Thread OrionWorks
Jed sez:

...

 This reminds me a little of a recent hysterical column by Kinsley:

 http://www.slate.com/id/2185134/

Funny!

Ms. Iseman certainly has the appearance of sweet eye candy.

Under the circumstances I think Mongo (from Blazing Saddles) had the
right attitude. KISS, even if there might be some overhead involved in
accepting candygrams.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
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Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Amazingly stable public opinion poll

2008-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
After 8 days of stasis, the Gallup poll numbers have finally changed, 
with a significant difference between the candidates:


http://www.gallup.com/poll/104611/Gallup-Daily-Tracking-Election-2008.aspx

From the point of view of polling and demographics, I would say this 
is the most complex and surprising election since the presidential 
election of 1948, in which Truman upset Dewey. Some of the major 
polling organizations actually stopped polling weeks before that 
election, they were so sure Dewey would win. My mother described this 
as the dawn of modern demographics. She said we'll never make such a 
big mistake again. She would be amused to see the 2008 election 
baffle the smartest pollsters. It isn't their fault as I said; it is 
an extraordinarily difficult election to call.


- Jed



Re: [Vo]:Nuke causes massive power outage

2008-02-27 Thread R C Macaulay

Howdy Jed,
One of the 20 worse  polluting USA coal fired electric power plants, The FPP 
plant ,Fayette county Texas has a problem. Seems their effort in finally 
getting the scrubber installed ( a little oversight when constructing it 
some 40 years ago...)  hmmm.   the concrete foundation for the new dual new 
scrubber failed inspection.
To give you some idea of the enormity of the problem, the concrete slab will 
have to be broken up and removed . It is 70 feet in diameter and 8 feet 
thcik with reinforcing steel oh ! I forgot to mention the deep pier 
pilings under the slab are too difficult to remove so they will  re-inforce 
the piers. The trick will be to drill holes in the slab and fill with a type 
of expanding grout to fracture the concrete into pieces for removal.
Comment with the report.. it is obvious there will be a delay in completing 
our environmental improvements. This plant is owned by the state of Texas 
and the city of Austin... pristine in their thinking and rightousness in 
going after any polluter but their own.


Not to be outdone.. as no Texas power producer can  .. the Houston ship 
channel industries old Reliant power plant, one of 4 fallen into bankruptcy 
because of rising fuel costs and too broke to install pollution equipment, 
was resurrected from the dead and sold for 450m and change.

The new owners will be given time to work out their pollution problems.

No place but Texas, where no man's life nor property is safe when the 
legislature is in session.  Not to worry says the regulators.. we in Texas 
are way ahead of the curve because the US is in serious trouble and face 
catastrophic electric power shortages across the nation this year caused by 
an aging infrastructure and  by environmentalists causing delays in new 
plant construction.


Richard 



Re: [Vo]:Nuke causes massive power outage

2008-02-27 Thread leaking pen
if this were true, if there would be a shortage due to time taken to
make a safer cleaner plant, well, then we need a shortage!

On 2/27/08, R C Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Howdy Jed,
 One of the 20 worse  polluting USA coal fired electric power plants, The FPP
 plant ,Fayette county Texas has a problem. Seems their effort in finally
 getting the scrubber installed ( a little oversight when constructing it
 some 40 years ago...)  hmmm.   the concrete foundation for the new dual new
 scrubber failed inspection.
 To give you some idea of the enormity of the problem, the concrete slab will
 have to be broken up and removed . It is 70 feet in diameter and 8 feet
 thcik with reinforcing steel oh ! I forgot to mention the deep pier
 pilings under the slab are too difficult to remove so they will  re-inforce
 the piers. The trick will be to drill holes in the slab and fill with a type
 of expanding grout to fracture the concrete into pieces for removal.
 Comment with the report.. it is obvious there will be a delay in completing
 our environmental improvements. This plant is owned by the state of Texas
 and the city of Austin... pristine in their thinking and rightousness in
 going after any polluter but their own.

 Not to be outdone.. as no Texas power producer can  .. the Houston ship
 channel industries old Reliant power plant, one of 4 fallen into bankruptcy
 because of rising fuel costs and too broke to install pollution equipment,
 was resurrected from the dead and sold for 450m and change.
 The new owners will be given time to work out their pollution problems.

 No place but Texas, where no man's life nor property is safe when the
 legislature is in session.  Not to worry says the regulators.. we in Texas
 are way ahead of the curve because the US is in serious trouble and face
 catastrophic electric power shortages across the nation this year caused by
 an aging infrastructure and  by environmentalists causing delays in new
 plant construction.

 Richard




-- 
That which yields isn't always weak.



Re: [Vo]:Nuke causes massive power outage

2008-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell

R C Macaulay wrote:

Not to be outdone.. as no Texas power producer 
can  .. the Houston ship channel industries old 
Reliant power plant, one of 4 fallen into 
bankruptcy because of rising fuel costs and too 
broke to install pollution equipment, was 
resurrected from the dead and sold for 450m and change.

The new owners will be given time to work out their pollution problems.

No place but Texas, where no man's life nor 
property is safe when the legislature is in 
session.  Not to worry says the regulators..


On the other hand, let's give Texas and it 
previous Gov. G. W. Bush credit for progress in 
wind power. They are doing a remarkable job. See:


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/business/23wind.html?scp=1sq=texas+windst=nyt

Move Over, Oil, There’s Money in Texas Wind

SWEETWATER, Tex. ­ The wind turbines that 
recently went up on Louis Brooks’s ranch are 
twice as high as the Statue of Liberty, with 
blades that span as wide as the wingspan of a 
jumbo jet. More important from his point of view, 
he is paid $500 a month apiece to permit 78 of 
them on his land, with 76 more on the way.


“That’s just money you’re hearing,” he said as 
they hummed in a brisk breeze recently.


Texas, once the oil capital of North America, is 
rapidly turning into the capital of wind power. 
After breakneck growth the last three years, 
Texas has reached the point that more than 3 
percent of its electricity, enough to supply 
power to one million homes, comes from wind turbines.


Texans are even turning tapped-out oil fields 
into wind farms, and no less an oilman than Boone 
Pickens is getting into alternative energy.


“I have the same feelings about wind,” Mr. 
Pickens said in an interview, “as I had about the 
best oil field I ever found.” He is planning to 
build the biggest wind farm in the world, a $10 
billion behemoth that could power a small city by itself. . . .



“I like wind because it’s renewable and it’s 
clean and you know you are not going to be 
dealing with a production decline curve,” Mr. 
Pickens said. “Decline curves finally wore me out in the oil business.”


At the end of 2007, Texas ranked No. 1 in the 
nation with installed wind power of 4,356 
megawatts (and 1,238 under construction), far 
outdistancing California’s 2,439 megawatts (and 
165 under construction). Minnesota and Iowa came 
in third and fourth with almost 1,300 megawatts 
each (and 46 and 116 under construction, respectively). . . .



4,356 MW nameplate translates into about about 
1,400 MW actual, or 1.6 average U.S. nukes. 
That's very significant generating capacity!


This fellow Louis Brooks is making $39,000 per 
month for doing essentially nothing! He just 
collects the checks. He will soon be making 
$77,000. That kind of money talks. People like 
him will ensure that the coal industry does not 
block the development of wind power.


- Jed



Re: [Vo]:GM VP reveals his true feelings

2008-02-27 Thread Terry Blanton
Two problems:

1)  Dealer automobile service centers are also independent profit
centers.  Electric cars need brake shoes and tires. . . that's about
it.

2)  The entire highway structure is maintained (financed) on state and
federal gasoline taxes.  No gas . . . no taxes.

Recently, Georgia proposed maintaining highways with a sales tax.
Interesting.

Does Dr. Gina Abraham (head of Ga dept of transportation) foresee the
future?  Kick ass, Gina!

Terry



Re: [Vo]:GM VP reveals his true feelings

2008-02-27 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:53:36 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Two problems:

1)  Dealer automobile service centers are also independent profit
centers.  Electric cars need brake shoes 

...in fact less of these too, because of regenerative braking.

and tires. . . that's about
it.

2)  The entire highway structure is maintained (financed) on state and
federal gasoline taxes.  No gas . . . no taxes.

...no problem. Simply increase income tax to compensate. It won't make any
difference to the people, they pay the same amount either way.


Recently, Georgia proposed maintaining highways with a sales tax.
Interesting.

That would work too.
[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The shrub is a plant.



Re: [Vo]:A palladium, heavy water, radio frequency experiment was conducted

2008-02-27 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to  [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s message of Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:39:41 EST:
Hi Frank,
[snip]
BTW, did you notice the Fermi  velocity?
[snip]

The Fermi velocities are quite high.  

I was struck by how close the Fermi velocity is to your MHz-m, and wondered if
there might be a connection?
[snip]
I not sure of the  
velocity distribution in a superconductive band.
 
As far as the coherience lenght goes, there are may ways of looking at  this. 
 We can look at the individual
pairs of electrons, as you do.  I tend to look at the entire condensed  
state.  In this state the electrons are
Indistinguishable.  They are part of the whole collective state.   It the 
ground frequency of this collective state is what I am interested  in.  

I suspect that the velocities will be different depending on your point of view.
If one looks at individual electrons, then one is looking at the speed of that
electron, however when looking at the collective state, one is perhaps looking
at the speed of signal transmission within the collective.

 
I would also like to know the velocity distribution of the protons in a  
proton conductor.  I believe that they travel at low thermal  velocities.  
These 
could also act as a plasma with the velocity  proportionate to
The density of the state.

There is another velocity possible in these systems too, and that is the average
velocity when tunneling is the means of transport, or is this the signal
velocity?

 
The velocity of the state should not affect the strength of the phonons  that 
bind the state.  This binding
force is not a function of the deBroglie wavelength. It is a function  of 
spin pairing.  I'm not sure of all of the parameters involved with  spin 
pairing. 
  Cooling lowers the momentum MV of the electrons.

I think some of the confusion arises from a lack of clarity in exactly what is
cohering.
[snip]
I need to know much more about these things.
[snip]
Me too.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The shrub is a plant.