[Vo]:OFF TOPIC In Vitro Meat Consortium

2008-03-07 Thread Jed Rothwell

Somewhat off topic, I guess. See:

http://www.invitromeat.org/

I wish that people would organize cold fusion initiatives like this.


Establishment of the In Vitro Meat Consortium

The In Vitro Meat Consortium was established at a 
workshop held at the Norwegian University of Life 
Sciences June 15, 2007 (see meeting report). It 
is an international alliance of environmentally 
concerned scientists striving to facilitate the 
establishment of a large-scale process industry 
for the production of muscle tissue for human 
consumption through concerted RD efforts and 
attraction of funding to fuel these efforts.


The consortium is currently led by an interim 
steering committee with a specific mandate. The 
interim phase will end with the consortium’s 
first international symposium April 9-11, 2008, 
where (i) the consortium's organizational 
structure will be determined, (ii) the scientific 
and industrial challenges will be examined and 
defined, and (iii) strategies will be consolidate



The First In Vitro Meat Symposium

The first In Vitro Meat Consortium Symposium will 
be held at Ås, Norway, 9-11 April, 2008.


The two main goals of the symposium are to 
identify and discuss the key scientific 
challenges that need to be solved and to 
formalize an organizational structure capable of 
binding together the various efforts as well as 
facilitating the funding of necessary activities.


There is no conference fee, but we ask 
participants to cover their own travel and 
accommodation costs. The symposium provides a 
unique opportunity to make strategic contacts and 
to influence the direction of future work and 
activities. Indeed, we hope that one day it will 
be viewed as a historic meeting. . . .




RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC In Vitro Meat Consortium

2008-03-07 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Jed, interesting. I have been focusing on future organizational aspects of
cold fusion.

What would inhibit the cold fusion 'community' from indeed organizing itself
along these or comparable lines?

Cheers,
Lawrence



-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:57 AM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC In Vitro Meat Consortium

Somewhat off topic, I guess. See:

http://www.invitromeat.org/

I wish that people would organize cold fusion initiatives like this.


Establishment of the In Vitro Meat Consortium

The In Vitro Meat Consortium was established at a 
workshop held at the Norwegian University of Life 
Sciences June 15, 2007 (see meeting report). It 
is an international alliance of environmentally 
concerned scientists striving to facilitate the 
establishment of a large-scale process industry 
for the production of muscle tissue for human 
consumption through concerted RD efforts and 
attraction of funding to fuel these efforts.

The consortium is currently led by an interim 
steering committee with a specific mandate. The 
interim phase will end with the consortium’s 
first international symposium April 9-11, 2008, 
where (i) the consortium's organizational 
structure will be determined, (ii) the scientific 
and industrial challenges will be examined and 
defined, and (iii) strategies will be consolidate


The First In Vitro Meat Symposium

The first In Vitro Meat Consortium Symposium will 
be held at Ås, Norway, 9-11 April, 2008.

The two main goals of the symposium are to 
identify and discuss the key scientific 
challenges that need to be solved and to 
formalize an organizational structure capable of 
binding together the various efforts as well as 
facilitating the funding of necessary activities.

There is no conference fee, but we ask 
participants to cover their own travel and 
accommodation costs. The symposium provides a 
unique opportunity to make strategic contacts and 
to influence the direction of future work and 
activities. Indeed, we hope that one day it will 
be viewed as a historic meeting. . . .




RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC In Vitro Meat Consortium

2008-03-07 Thread Jed Rothwell

Lawrence de Bivort wrote:


What would inhibit the cold fusion 'community' from indeed organizing itself
along these or comparable lines?


Actually, Bill Collis is probably doing the best anyone could over at ISCMNS:

http://www.iscmns.org/index.htm

I would say these are the main reasons the field cannot be 
effectively organized:


Most researchers are old, tired, discouraged or dead.

Researchers have no money.

Many of them see no value in organizing.

Many feel that others in the field are doing low quality work or 
making mistakes in theory, and they do not wish to be associated with them.


Researchers tend to be rugged individualists who think they should 
tough it out and solve all problems by themselves.


- Jed



[Vo]:Toroidal inductors

2008-03-07 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
Hi,

If one has two separate toroidally wound inductors, and one passes a DC current
through each coil, do they experience any force from one another, particularly
when sharing a common major axis?

I'm interested in both theoretical and experimental responses.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The shrub is a plant.



[Vo]:The Kiplinger Letter: 03/07/08 comments on energy

2008-03-07 Thread OrionWorks
The Kiplinger Letter's comments on ENERGY for the week of 03/07/08

*

A new black gold rush is under way, this time in North Dakota.

The potential payoff is huge...up to 100 billion barrels of oil.
That's twice the size of Alaska's reserves...enough to meet U.S. needs
for 20 years. An official government estimate is due out next month.

Until now, the obstacles to production seemed overwhelming. The crude
oil is locked away in rocks that are buried miles underground in the
Bakken Play, a field that stretches into Montana and Canada.

But times have changed. High oil prices and new technology make it
worth the effort. Marathon Oil, Tristar Oil  Gas, EOG Resources and
Crescent Point Energy Trust are all interested in some of the action.

Figure on at least five years before the oil starts flowing.

As for Congress' effort to push alternative energy: Forget it.

At least for this year. Expect the Senate to bury the House plan to
add a 50¢ a gallon tax credit for ethanol produced from farm waste and
forestry, trash, etc. Dead, too, are bigger breaks for buyers of
hybrid cars and double credits for home energy efficiency measures.

The problem is the cost: $18 billion. Democrats would pay for it by
revoking oil company credits, but that'll never get past Republicans.


-- 
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:The Kiplinger Letter: 03/07/08 comments on energy

2008-03-07 Thread R C Macaulay

Howdy Steven,
Kiplinger needs to do his math. Search out how much petroleum is consumed in 
the US daily and divide by 100 billion.


Always remember what the politicians give as the answer to what is the 
business of government.

The business of government is business
Richard


Steven wrote,
A new black gold rush is under way, this time in North Dakota.

The potential payoff is huge...up to 100 billion barrels of oil.
That's twice the size of Alaska's reserves...enough to meet U.S. needs
for 20 years. An official government estimate is due out next month.



Re: [Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?

2008-03-07 Thread thomas malloy

Terry Blanton wrote:


I can't allow the denigration of engineers in the automotive industry
continue.  I had a friend who was an engineering manager in Detroit
 


I agree, IMHO, it's the MBA's and the lawyers.


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