Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-02 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:15:57 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Wow - this guy Glen Kertz - who has an operating system (pictured) so his claims are based on actual results - sez he can produce about 100,000 gallons of algae oil peracre per year, compared to about 30

[Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-02 Thread Michel Jullian
Jones, You're right about ethanol of course, but PV is real nice IMHO, no moving part, no pollution, probably the highest overall efficiency, even at Nanosolar's present 9 to 10% sun-to-electric efficiency. Even if the 50% figure for sun-to-algoil was true --I am skeptical too--, what would be

Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
Michel You're right about ethanol of course, but PV is real nice IMHO, no moving part, no pollution, probably the highest overall efficiency, even at Nanosolar's present 9 to 10% sun-to-electric efficiency. Even if the 50% figure for sun-to-algoil was true --I am skeptical too--, what

[Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-02 Thread Jones Beene
Let me correct this: a major point not yet made is to remember that Kertz's algae produce 50% oil and almost 50% protein (food), so if the efficiency is 35% for the oil - it is 70% for the net biomass, and the food may be just as important as the oil to the third world. This is especially

Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Foster
--- On Wed, 4/2/08, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure efficiency is the main concern. If the comparative cost of the oil produced is close but acceptable, and the dollars stay at home instead of going into the hands of our enemies: Saudi Arabia in particular, then we are

Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-02 Thread OrionWorks
From Jones, ... Locating and owning optimum sites for algae farming could replace exploration and drilling. While they wouldn't be the same sort of refineries, oil company engineers could do what they do best, designing and implementing the large scale chemical processing plants that give

Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-02 Thread Rhong Dhong
--- OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. One would think that algoil refineries would be right up their alley. I suppose Algore will try to take credit for algoil. You rock. That's why

[Vo]:BLP Announcement

2008-04-02 Thread Mike Carrell
The BLP website at www.blacklightpower.com now has new material on energy generation. Mike Carrell.

Re: [Vo]:BLP Announcement

2008-04-02 Thread OrionWorks
From Mike Carrell: The BLP website at www.blacklightpower.com now has new material on energy generation. Mike Carrell. Thanks, Mike! Exerpts from: http://www.blacklightpower.com/applications.shtml#BlackLightPowerPlants ... Blacklight Power has recently achieved a breakthrough in power

Re: [Vo]:BLP Announcement

2008-04-02 Thread Terry Blanton
I bet it comes from the ocean. ;-) Terry On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Mike Carrell: The BLP website at www.blacklightpower.com now has new material on energy generation. Mike Carrell. Thanks, Mike! Exerpts from:

[VO]: OT: Numbers and cucumbers

2008-04-02 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Vorts, Ever get the feeling the govmnet may be stretching the truth about subprime mortgage actual losses. Do the math of actual true losses to the banking and lending industry on foreclosures. Using Detroit as an example,, figures reported show 10,000 homes were in the loop last quarter

Re: [VO]: OT: Numbers and cucumbers

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Foster
That's a very informative analysis, Richard. Thanks. --- On Wed, 4/2/08, R C Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: R C Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VO]: OT: Numbers and cucumbers To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, April 2, 2008, 7:54 PM Howdy Vorts, Ever get the feeling

[Vo]:Stupid Academic stunt

2008-04-02 Thread thomas malloy
Jed commented LENR opponents are stupid I replied They can't be that stupid, they must have an agenda. Then I sent the letter below, and got the following reply. I'm afraid that Jed is right, they really are stupid. Dr. Krauss gave a speech at the Atheist Conference in which he went on