[Vo]:letter to Tom Valone

2008-05-02 Thread thomas malloy
Tom Valone, of Integrity Research Institute was interviewed on C to C AM 
on Monday.The following morning I wrote him this letter. I haven't 
received a reply. I think that Tom's agenda is selling books.


Dear Tom;

I was in the C to C audience this morning. We've been discussing various 
energy production scenarios on Vortex-L. AFAIK, while there are some 
interesting experimental results, there aren't any systems which produce 
enough energy to be cost effective. If you know differently, we'd love 
to hear about them. Live experimenters are standing by.


J R R Searle (I built them, but they flew away into space) has come in 
for some particularly scathing reviews on Vortex. As I told the Russian 
Science Fiction Author, (Alexander Frolov) we'd love to see a working 
Searle Machine, one that does any one, of his claims. I'm still waiting 
for Alexander to make a Searle machine, or any F E machine available for 
me to import.


Three British patent attorneys write the IP Kat blog. They were making 
fun of Randell Mills. They made him out to be a dotering, absent minded 
fool. This just infuriated me. I pointed out them that if BLP can do 
what they say they can do, then it's the laws of physics that need to 
change. They didn't respond. It may have something to do with my 
mentioning that some of the dumbest people I've ever met have graduate 
degrees, particularly legal degrees. Now two of them want to be 
President, too.


Joseph Newman just posted a video explaining why things are going to 
really get bad, it's going to hit the fan on 12/21/12. He sites a graph 
done by the late Terrance Mc Kinna based on the 64 combinations of the I 
Ching, done 64 times. I called his associate, his name is Joe too. I 
just left a message on his answering machine. I'm itching to read Mc 
Kinna's paper on that graph. I also itching to tell Joe, and Joseph too, 
that we Vortexians are still waiting to see his energy machine heat 
water. OTOH, Naudin posted an experiment in which the coil on a Newman 
Motor gets 2 degrees colder than the room. Some of us found this 
significant.


We, Agape New Life Ministries, are trying to bring a magnetic 
transmission to market. The prototype was built on a Ford Ranger. It has 
a small battery bank which still gives it a 200 mile range. We could use 
Lithium ion batteries, but I prefer the ultra capacitor. I'm trying to 
get in contact with EEStor. I called a number I found, I got an 
answering machine. You can't do more than express an interest in 
purchasing their product, eh?


The Ministry has a venture capital source who is interested in a clean 
energy source. I introduced him to Sterling Allen. The Boyce 
Electrolyzer was presented as an energy source, it's too bad that the 
experimental results don't live up to it's billing.


I'm investigating harvesting sea weed in the Sargassum Sea. The sea weed 
can be processed into oil. The Scottish Association for Marine Science 
researched the matter. So far they have not responded to my requests for 
information.


Back when we first met, someone mentioned Remote Viewing, and the Wall 
in 2012. That was before I met Hal Puthoff and learned about his role in 
developing it. 2012 seemed a long way off in 1992. Now it's coming up in 
a hurry. Then there's the planned peace agreement between the 
Palestinians and Israelis which may be The Peace.



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[Vo]:The Richard Clem machine

2008-05-02 Thread thomas malloy
Last year, while reading the Rex Research website I came across the 
Richard Clem patent. Earlier this week the German researcher Fred Evert 
sent me this URL. http://www.evert.de/ap0707e.pdf . The machine on the 
bottom of page 8 is the Richard Clem patent, he was murdered, of course.



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RE: [Vo]:letter to Tom Valone

2008-05-02 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Good morning,

Your letter seems truncated in this posting. Can you post the rest of it?

You mention 'peace negotiations' between Israelis and Palestinians, and
suggest that it might be The Peace. If that proves to be the case, then
indeed the laws of physics would have to be redefined.

Cheers,

Lawry


-Original Message-
From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:43 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:letter to Tom Valone

Tom Valone, of Integrity Research Institute was interviewed on C to C AM 
on Monday.The following morning I wrote him this letter. I haven't 
received a reply. I think that Tom's agenda is selling books.

Dear Tom;

I was in the C to C audience this morning. We've been discussing various 
energy production scenarios on Vortex-L. AFAIK, while there are some 
interesting experimental results, there aren't any systems which produce 
enough energy to be cost effective. If you know differently, we'd love 
to hear about them. Live experimenters are standing by.

J R R Searle (I built them, but they flew away into space) has come in 
for some particularly scathing reviews on Vortex. As I told the Russian 
Science Fiction Author, (Alexander Frolov) we'd love to see a working 
Searle Machine, one that does any one, of his claims. I'm still waiting 
for Alexander to make a Searle machine, or any F E machine available for 
me to import.

Three British patent attorneys write the IP Kat blog. They were making 
fun of Randell Mills. They made him out to be a dotering, absent minded 
fool. This just infuriated me. I pointed out them that if BLP can do 
what they say they can do, then it's the laws of physics that need to 
change. They didn't respond. It may have something to do with my 
mentioning that some of the dumbest people I've ever met have graduate 
degrees, particularly legal degrees. Now two of them want to be 
President, too.

Joseph Newman just posted a video explaining why things are going to 
really get bad, it's going to hit the fan on 12/21/12. He sites a graph 
done by the late Terrance Mc Kinna based on the 64 combinations of the I 
Ching, done 64 times. I called his associate, his name is Joe too. I 
just left a message on his answering machine. I'm itching to read Mc 
Kinna's paper on that graph. I also itching to tell Joe, and Joseph too, 
that we Vortexians are still waiting to see his energy machine heat 
water. OTOH, Naudin posted an experiment in which the coil on a Newman 
Motor gets 2 degrees colder than the room. Some of us found this 
significant.

We, Agape New Life Ministries, are trying to bring a magnetic 
transmission to market. The prototype was built on a Ford Ranger. It has 
a small battery bank which still gives it a 200 mile range. We could use 
Lithium ion batteries, but I prefer the ultra capacitor. I'm trying to 
get in contact with EEStor. I called a number I found, I got an 
answering machine. You can't do more than express an interest in 
purchasing their product, eh?

The Ministry has a venture capital source who is interested in a clean 
energy source. I introduced him to Sterling Allen. The Boyce 
Electrolyzer was presented as an energy source, it's too bad that the 
experimental results don't live up to it's billing.

I'm investigating harvesting sea weed in the Sargassum Sea. The sea weed 
can be processed into oil. The Scottish Association for Marine Science 
researched the matter. So far they have not responded to my requests for 
information.

Back when we first met, someone mentioned Remote Viewing, and the Wall 
in 2012. That was before I met Hal Puthoff and learned about his role in 
developing it. 2012 seemed a long way off in 1992. Now it's coming up in 
a hurry. Then there's the planned peace agreement between the 
Palestinians and Israelis which may be The Peace.


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Re: [Vo]:The Richard Clem machine

2008-05-02 Thread Esa Ruoho
there was never a richard clem patent. yes, he did work at a job where he
got to see that cement mixing machine  run itself even after power-out, and
yes, people have dug up the patent, but it was never his patent. he just got
the originating idea from it. its a shame that this stuff keeps getting
dragged out   in order to throw more vagueness at it.

2008/5/2 thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Last year, while reading the Rex Research website I came across the
 Richard Clem patent. Earlier this week the German researcher Fred Evert sent
 me this URL. http://www.evert.de/ap0707e.pdf . The machine on the bottom
 of page 8 is the Richard Clem patent, he was murdered, of course.


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Re: [Vo]:Running-on .... trioxide ?

2008-05-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM, R C Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I kept my old
 physics freshman textbook in my library at the Dime Box saloon to remind me
 times have changed.

That wouldn't happen to be Haliday and Resnick (sp)?

Terry



[Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-05-02 Thread Michel Jullian
The mobile line sniffing harvesting head could perhaps squash the sargassum 
(e.g. using counter-rotating rolls touching each other at the water surface), 
which would burst most of the little gas bags serving as floats for the weed, 
allowing a slow water current pumped in from the land station to transport the 
now zero flotation harvest through the sea line to the processing plant. The 
sea line could be assorted with a power line bringing electric power to the Eye 
roaming harvesting head, which could alternatively draw its power from said 
water current powered by the land station.

Our original (at least wrt the patent I posted) scheme of not seeding where we 
harvest (at the Eye), but rather upstream at the outskirts of the Gyre, and 
advantageously one full turn upstream, in the Gulf Stream somewhere between 
Bermuda and the US coast for the case of the NA Gyre, turns out to be 
particularly judicious as nutrients naturally rise from the depths there 
(upwelling phenomenon):

http://earth.usc.edu/~slund/systems/topic4.html :
---
As currents move north as western boundary currents or south as eastern 
boundary currents (in the northern hemisphere), they are deflected by the 
Coriolis force toward the open ocean. This allows deeper water to rise to the 
ocean surface to replace it producing upwelling. This can also occur if there 
are strong prevailing winds blowing from the continent toward the ocean.

Thermohaline circulation primarily affects water in the deep oceans below the 
zone of surface ocean circulation. It produces nutrient-rich waters that rise 
to the surface during upwelling.

The surface water is thickest in the central ocean gyres like the Sargasso 
Sea. The central gyres are warm, saline, low-nutrient waters with low 
biological productivity.
--

Also of course, as already mentioned, seeding at the outskirt one full turn 
ahead allows benefiting from the largest possible sunlight and CO2 collecting 
growing area, while making the system as compact as possible and thus doable 
with a pair of relatively short (~500 km each?) sea lines, which could be 
suspended from floats at say 100m depth as discussed before, and could be 
relatively rigid except the last say 100 km of the harvesting one, which need 
to be flexible for mobility within the Eye area.

Things seem to be falling into place nicely, could this indicate this gigantic 
terraforming (well, aquaforming) enterprise might actually make sense?

Michel

P.S. Anyone knows why the latitudes at which we would be harvesting (30-35°) 
are called the Horse Latitudes?

- Original Message - 
From: Michel Jullian 
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:14 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre


It occurred to me that lateral motion capability of the robotic head of the 
midwater submerged harvesting sea line (remember the giant worms in Dune? ;) 
would be a good thing anyway, as it would allow snorting the lines of 
sargassum, as this seaweed self-organizes in linear slicks as seen on these 
photos:

http://www.physorg.com/news100350969.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070606113421.htm

Above photos are in Gulf of Mexico, the only satellite view of sargassum in the 
Sargasso Sea I have found for now is this detail view of an eddy in the gulf 
stream:

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=347712

Pointers to wide view photos (sat or aerial) of the weed in the Eye area would 
be welcome.

Michel

- Original Message - 
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre


In reply to  Michel Jullian's message of Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:58:17 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Good point Richard, neither would I, nor would any robotic platform... Maybe 
we could envisage sufficient flexibility in the mooring scheme (maybe some 
kind of semi-dynamic mooring, static most of the time, dynamic=motorized when 
needed) to move out of the way of the hurricane? 
[snip]
It just needs to be submerged enough to get it out of the way.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

The shrub is a plant.



Re: [Vo]:Running-on .... trioxide ?

2008-05-02 Thread R C Macaulay

Howdy Terry,
Physics, a textbook for colleges .. Stewart...Ginn and company
In todays world, probably suitable for 2nd graders that don't have 
computers.

Richard
- Original Message - 
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Running-on  trioxide ?



On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM, R C Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I kept my old
physics freshman textbook in my library at the Dime Box saloon to remind 
me

times have changed.


That wouldn't happen to be Haliday and Resnick (sp)?

Terry



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