Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux
--- Robin One is forced to wonder where all the Oxygen went my guess would be that it combined with the Fe to form Fe2O3 (rust). They state that the iron is a catalyst - not a reactant. If true, a catalyst does not participate in the reaction. When Algae and bacteria use an iron or manganese catalyst to metabolize CO2, the oxygen is released as O2 but this requires solar photons of the correct wavelength to operate on the band gap of the nascent MnO in order to release the O from the catalyst (over-simplification). In effect, the catalyst is being rejuvenated. Anyway, is there reason to believe that this can happen only in life ? and that it is not relevant otherwise? ... it is possible that the sodium plays a significant role here, but it is not clear how. Of equal interest geologically, in the large trona beds where the soda is found and mined today, and which were once brackish lakes, what happened to the chlorine? ... that is, assuming that some of the sodium there originally came from NaCl and there is almost no Cl left in the soda when it is mined? Otherwise, are we to assume that some inland lakes somehow do not accumulate any NaCl at all? BTW - these beds of trona have been exposed to unshaded solar irradiation for millions of years. If there ever was a place where one could expect to find evidence of particles from solar wind which have accumulated over the eons, this is it. I guess if this reaction (soda -- phenol) were to be replicated, and IF it turned out that O2 were actually being released, then ... ... if an observer wanted to get real crazy (and if that observer had an appreciation of the possibilities of redundant ground state protium, it would be possible to suggest that that the O2 is being released due to the iron catalyst being renewed by the action of that mystery particle ... It would be interesting to know if there were any UV emissions coming from the hydro-thermal refluxing, wouldn't it? Jones
[Vo]:For your weekend distraction
This just in from a YAHOO UFO group I occasionally monitor: * * * * * * Dear Group: The first yearly G.R.B. (15 in all) will take place (as predicted) on 28 May, 2008 ( 24 May, 11B4 (base 12)) plus or minus a few days. Hope this is a Green Group if not fully Kristos as the ones making the prediction are a (if not the only) Kristos group in this M.W. Galaxy. The group opposing the greens are responsible and i will not be specific as we could piss them off. i can say no more as this information is most sensitive, it is out on the Keylontic Science workshops but it is questionable what and what cannot be said. Please observe the Sun on various websites to confirm this event, predicted to take place yearly till 2022 A.D. More will be made public later. Aufwiedersehen und Bis Später Santrina Colombo * * * * * * Waiting for further instructions. My decoder ring is ready! PS: Spamalot was Ni-High wunderful! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux
There is a deep geologic and natural mystery in that elbow of the periodic table where elements 17, 18, and 19 reside. Fred Sparber has often mentioned the various anomalies found here - wrt argon and potassium; but chlorine is an integral part of that same mystery, too. IMHO one of the best kept secrets of the Manhattan project, still not widely appreciated today, is the incredible photo-reactivity of chlorine. Anytime I have mentioned the so-called Kistiakowsky trigger in public, then a few hours latter, I tend to hear a faint buzzing sound in the sky nearby-- probably just the hissing of summer lawns ... Jones --- R C Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Jones and Robin, NACL plays the key role in your observations simply because of it's abundance. A key clue to how salt was formed in such mass may be by studying potash as well as soda. In SE New Mexico there are deep potash mines between Hobbs and Artesia. To me these potash deposits are an enigma. They simply should not exist.. yet.. Richard
Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux
From R C Macaulay: Howdy Jones and Robin, NACL plays the key role in your observations simply because of it's abundance. A key clue to how salt was formed in such mass may be by studying potash as well as soda. In SE New Mexico there are deep potash mines between Hobbs and Artesia. To me these potash deposits are an enigma. They simply should not exist.. yet.. Richard Wasn't it stated not too long ago in VortexLand that potash is a principal ingredient in BLP's alleged new solid fuel process? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Italian newspaper reports on upcoming Arata demonstration
- Original Message - From: OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:15 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Italian newspaper reports on upcoming Arata demonstration Jed sez:See:http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/SoleOnLine4/Tecnologia%20e%20Business/2008/05/fusione-fredda-soluzione-vicina.shtml?uuid=ffa45366-229b-11dd-a2c2-0e25108cDocRulesView=LiberofromSearch Il Sole 24 ORE.com Fusione fredda: è vicina la soluzione del mistero? di Giuseppe Caravita ... Orionwork's response: I are encouraged that imprison nanoparticles have increased in public observations. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks laughing outside noisely Harry
[Vo]:Toad Away
So long and thanks for all the, er, bugs? http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20080513-toads-predict-earthquake-dead-china Terry
[Vo]:Speaking of plants
Hmmm ... maybe it is all coming into focus Does this ancient bust: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/05/080516-AP-caesar.html ...bear an uncanny resemblance to this modern bust ? http://www.g-8.de/Content/EN/StatischeSeiten/G8/Lebensl_C3_A4ufe/Bilder/george-w-bush,property=poster.jpg
Re: [Vo]:For your weekend distraction
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Sat, 17 May 2008 09:56:15 -0500: Hi, [snip] This just in from a YAHOO UFO group I occasionally monitor: * * * * * * Dear Group: The first yearly G.R.B. (15 in all) will take place (as predicted) on 28 May, 2008 ( 24 May, 11B4 (base 12)) plus or minus a few days. What does G.R.B. stand for? (Great Radiation Burst?) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 17 May 2008 07:15:38 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] --- Robin One is forced to wonder where all the Oxygen went my guess would be that it combined with the Fe to form Fe2O3 (rust). They state that the iron is a catalyst - not a reactant. If true, a catalyst does not participate in the reaction. I suspect they got that wrong. Perhaps they were so excited by the formation of the phenol that they didn't notice the reduction in the quantity of Fe, particularly if the Fe2O3 (Fe3O4?) appeared as a coating on the outside of the Fe particles. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:For your weekend distraction
On May 17, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: What does G.R.B. stand for? (Great Radiation Burst?) http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/know_l1/bursts.html Obviously used by class IV civilizations to send code. 8^) Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux
Jones Beene wrote: --- Richard, Tell us... the next act in the drama... Well, it's no secret that if a mild thermo-chemical reaction can pull this off (unaided) in a simple warm Anyone ready to check-out Death Valley in the summer ? There is definitely a method to your madness Jones. I have frequently speculated that pipelines could bring ocean water in. Death Valley is long on solar energy. I've been reading a business plan involving trapping CO2 and incorporating it into various alcohols and plant oils which will be used as fuel. The process involves Fe and Cu salts. I've been unable to figure out how the process is supposed to work, but given the credentials of the principals, and the amount of venture capital requested, they clearly have one. FYI, they have a prototype reactor operating. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:For your weekend distraction
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Sat, 17 May 2008 15:48:52 -0800: Thanks Horace. On May 17, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: What does G.R.B. stand for? (Great Radiation Burst?) http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/know_l1/bursts.html Obviously used by class IV civilizations to send code. 8^) Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux
For those who did not read the complete Kanzius/ Roy pdf file (recommended), on the burning of salt water - it is now available from Harti's site (has some nice images): http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get16 Given that there is a correlation between this thread and the Kanzius information- I am hopeful that some experimenter, who is already set-up to do it - IOW someone who is already irradiating salt water with 13.56 MHz as in the Kanzius paper, will try the same setup with baking soda instead of salt water, and then perhaps with both, in order to see if there is any enhancement. The strong spike which is seen at ~590 nm (the Na line) is interesting in the context of the photo-reactivity of chlorine. If there is a route to push such a system into overunity (which is doubtful and is NOT claimed) then there is an expedient approach - using a hybrid, closed system of mixed reactants- water, O2 and dissolved NaCl and NaHCO3 in a closed refluxing reactor, where the phenol produced is also burned and the photon emission is mirrored back to the reactor so that the chlorine is activated. What would be the ultimate source of OU -- in the *extraordinarily unlikely* event that it was seen? Hey - I've never balked at supplying a speculative answer, even in the face of extreme improbability- and have a good one for this scenario - but it will have to wait for now... Jones
Re: [Vo]:Biomimicry redux
Howdy Thomas, Do you have a link or name to this firm you referred to below? Richard Thomas wrote, I've been reading a business plan involving trapping CO2 and incorporating it into various alcohols and plant oils which will be used as fuel. The process involves Fe and Cu salts. I've been unable to figure out how the process is supposed to work, but given the credentials of the principals, and the amount of venture capital requested, they clearly have one. FYI, they have a prototype reactor operating.
Re: [Vo]:For your weekend distraction
Robin sez: What does G.R.B. stand for? (Great Radiation Burst?) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk I dunno. Can't find it on my decoder ring. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:For your weekend distraction
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Sat, 17 May 2008 21:47:25 -0500: Hi, [snip] Robin sez: What does G.R.B. stand for? (Great Radiation Burst?) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk I dunno. Can't find it on my decoder ring. That's what happens when you use cheap plastic imitations. ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
RE: [Vo]:For your weekend distraction
It's obvious: Green; Red; Blue; . -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:47 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:For your weekend distraction Robin sez: What does G.R.B. stand for? (Great Radiation Burst?) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk I dunno. Can't find it on my decoder ring. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Re: Fwd: Steve Elswick and Extraordinary Technologies
Patrick G Bailey wrote: Thanks to Bill! Subject: Steve Elswick and Extraordinary Technologies Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:12:13 -0700 Hello all, Steve Elswick, publisher of Extraordinary Technologies magazine and producer of the Tesla Tech Conference will be my guest on the PROGRESSIVE TECHNOLOGY HOUR: http://www.achieveradio.com/vortex-progressive-tech/index.php The conference will be held in Albuquerque New Mexico this year and will feature some of the following speakers - Sir Charles Schults III, Moshe Daniel, Moray King, Thorsten Ludwig, Brooks Agnew and many others. It begins Thursday, July 31 and runs for four days. The program: http://www.teslatech.info/ttevents/2008conf/program.htm --- Conference Session 1 --- An ExtraOrdinary Expedition 5:00pm: Brooks Agnew, PhD - Case for A Hollow Earth 7:00pm: Conference Evening Social Moshe Daniel will be giving a workshop of his Moe-Joe Cell technology. --- Conference Session 2 --- ExtraOrdinary Health Issues 8:00am: James Bare DC - Reconstructing Rife Technology 9:30am: Dr. Omar M. Amin - Understanding Parasites in the US 11:00am: Len Horowitz - Healthcare's Greatest Risks and Blessings --- Conference Session 3 --- ExtraOrdinary Research 1:00pm: Ron Nott - Lightning... Its Nature and Prevention 2:30pm: Harvey Fiala - Inertial Propulsion Devices 4:00pm: Tai Robinson - Alternative Fuels Today! --- Conference Session 4 --- (Evening) 6:00pm: Conference Evening Social --- Conference Session 5 --- Zero-Point Energy Technology 8:00am: Thorsten Ludwig - Emerging European ZPE Technologies 9:30am: Moray King - Water Cohering Zero-Point Energy 11am: David Yurth - Y-Bias and Angularity From Zero Point to Infinity --- Conference Session 6 --- Alternative Energy Technology 1:00pm: Moshe Daniel, ND - The Moe-Joe Cell: Spherical Prototype of the Joe cell 2:30pm: Valeriy Maisotsenko - Energy from Air: The Maisotsenko Cycle 4:00pm: Sir Charles Schults III - Developments in Solar Energy --- Conference Session 7 --- (Evening) 6:00pm: Conference Evening Social --- Conference Session 8 --- ExtraOrdinary Challenges 8:00am: John V.Milewski, PhD - Superlight and Other Forms of Magnetic Energy 9:30am: Charles Ostman - Nano Materials, Fabrication Processes, and Greentech 11:00am: Roulette Smith PhD - Development of Common Sense and Its Disorders -- The PROGRESSIVE TECHNOLOGY HOUR is brought to you by Vortex Network News. Bill --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
