Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion, Wet or Dry?

2008-06-02 Thread Horace Heffner


On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Edmund Storms wrote:


Hi Horace,

Thanks for remembering this heroic effort to make tritium using the  
F-P method. The intention was to create a NAE on the surface, not  
to improve loading, which this treatment did not do. We tried a lot  
of stupid ideas at a time when we didn't know what might work. A  
few did work, but not often and for no apparent reason.


Ed


I would not, and I'm sure many, including the venerable Thomas Edison  
himself, would not consider such efforts stupid.  The solution domain  
and range has to be searched, one way or another.


Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/





[VO]: Flat Earth Society

2008-06-02 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Vorts,

The Flat Earth Society (FES-UP) is planning the next meeting in the back room 
at the Dime Box Saloon as soon as money can be raised to pay last month's bar 
tab. Invited guests will be an actual eyewitness of the attempt to fake a 
landing of the Phoenix on Mars. Some claim the witness has a screw loose and 
plan to hire one of the lawyers shown on UTube teaching liars how to tell the 
truth 9 different ways without lying. Last month's minutes of the FES meeting 
were stolen by space aliens( our security cameras caught it on tape). Will the 
person(s) that took the .80 cents tip donated to the bartender please refrain 
from giving us all a bad name in the interest of science.

Or to paraphrase Rodney King.. could we all just get back to science.

Richard

[Vo]:Re: Flat Earth Society

2008-06-02 Thread Michel Jullian
.80 cents! In the context, I guess that must be a one cent coin with a bullet 
hole in it ;)

Michel

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Howdy Vorts,

The Flat Earth Society (FES-UP) is planning the next meeting in the back room 
at the Dime Box Saloon as soon as money can be raised to pay last month's bar 
tab. Invited guests will be an actual eyewitness of the attempt to fake a 
landing of the Phoenix on Mars. Some claim the witness has a screw loose and 
plan to hire one of the lawyers shown on UTube teaching liars how to tell the 
truth 9 different ways without lying. Last month's minutes of the FES meeting 
were stolen by space aliens( our security cameras caught it on tape). Will the 
person(s) that took the .80 cents tip donated to the bartender please refrain 
from giving us all a bad name in the interest of science.

Or to paraphrase Rodney King.. could we all just get back to science.

Richard



Re: [Vo]:Alien Contact Proof?

2008-06-02 Thread OrionWorks
Just for the sake of playing the devil's advocate... It's a dirty job
but someone's gotta do it.

Jones sez:

 LOL - where is Geraldo?

 It would be slightly more plausible if:

 1) the encounter was recent instead of many years old

Why so? Actually, I think one could just as easily rationalize the
fact that the video could be more authentic precisely because it IS
older, meaning digital fakery would have been more difficult to have
pulled off.

 2) NOT an 8 foot high window (ladder? anti-gravity??
 or very tall alien) Heck, we all know the lil' buggers
 are shorter than Randy Newman

 3) circumstances involving teenagers vs cranky father,
 where pranks would be expected. They would know the
 father (Romanek) was a nut-case who had claimed to
 have seen many, many UFOs in the past, and use that as
 part of the prank.

This appears to be a reoccurring issue for many who claim to have been
afflicted with pesky alien infestations. Once you get buged it's
likely that you will be revisited countless times. Of course, it's
easy for most rationalists to rationalize this condition as being due
to some anomaly of the observers brain. To be honest I find myself
rationalizing the same conclusion as well. But then, who knows. As
Baudette informed us, all it takes is just one Dolly.

 4) publicity motives for Peckman

 5) profit motives from many including the media (the
 Geraldo effect)

 6) This patent:
 http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4690653/description.html

 which describes the blinking eye effect etc. and a
 company in LA which makes the masks for props

 All in all, my odds of it being either media scam or
 teenage prank, instead of real alien, are about
 10^20:1 ... yet at the same time, I would say the odds
 of there being intelligent life elsewhere in the
 Universe are just as high the other way -- but the two
 situations are not connected in any way.

I'd personally peg the odds closer to 10^19:1, so as you can tell I'm
more open-minded on these celestial matters than you! ;-)

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:Re: Flat Earth Society

2008-06-02 Thread OrionWorks
Richard sez:

 Or to paraphrase Rodney King.. could we all just get back to science.

As an honorary FES, member residing in Madison, Wisconsin, I wish to
lodge a formal protest.

Whose Science are we talking about here?

Unfortunately FES has not allowed me to express the eloquence of my
steel-trap logic since I stopped paying my tab at the DBS. No one
seems to believe me when I tell them Steve the Cat shredded my IOU
before taking off on his latest excursion to Mars. At least Steve left
me with one of his tuna packs.

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:Alien Contact Proof?

2008-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder

Prof. Brian Josephsonresponded to
http://physicsworld.com/blog/2008/05/coldfusion_demonstration_a_suc.html
seecomments 59,62 and 64
Harry




[Vo]:Brian Josephson comments

2008-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder



Prof. Brian Josephsonresponded to
http://physicsworld.com/blog/2008/05/coldfusion_demonstration_a_suc.html
seecomments 59,62 and 64
Harry
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Prof. Brian Josephsonresponded to
http://physicsworld.com/blog/2008/05/coldfusion_demonstration_a_suc.html
seecomments 59,62 and 64
Harry


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[Vo]:Conspiracy against cold fusion videos

2008-06-02 Thread Horace Heffner
Excuse me if this stuff has been referenced here before (I'm well  
over 300 emails behind in my reading) but the following Conspiracy  
against cold fusion video, though old, brings up a bunch more of them:


http://tinyurl.com/5uqxof

I'm surprised at how the subject seems to be going popular, and how  
much confusion there is in the non-scientific community.


Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/