Re: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread Edmund Storms
Great John, now if you can convince the fools who buy systems for the voting public to use your method, we might be saved from a disaster in November. Ed On Sep 11, 2008, at 4:32 PM, John Berry wrote: I don't have time to go into it at this moment but I believe I have found a way to have o

Re: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: You all would fail at solving murder mysteries. Consider the facts: 1. Diebold makes ATMs, which are secure. Therefore, they know how to do a good job. 2. Diebold is owned by people who are strong supporters of the Republican party. Therefore they have a self interest in

Re: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread John Berry
I don't have time to go into it at this moment but I believe I have found a way to have online voting secure and cheat proof if anyone is curious, it's not really hard. On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > You all would fail at solving murder mysteries. Con

Re: [Vo]:Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions Sourcebook

2008-09-11 Thread Edmund Storms
This book is not properly described. Actually, it is collection of papers given at an ACS meeting. I'm glad to see it is available for $175. The ACS wanted $400 to sell me 100 preprints of only my contribution. Ed On Sep 11, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: See: http://www.oup.com/

Re: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread Edmund Storms
You all would fail at solving murder mysteries. Consider the facts: 1. Diebold makes ATMs, which are secure. Therefore, they know how to do a good job. 2. Diebold is owned by people who are strong supporters of the Republican party. Therefore they have a self interest in gaming the system

[Vo]:Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions Sourcebook

2008-09-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Chemistry/NuclearChemistry/?view=usa&ci=9780841269668

RE: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
By the way, Diebold is in the ATM business. Readers here did not know that would miss my point. I am sure there are plenty of programmers at Diebold who know how to do secure touch-screen transaction processing. It is an old, long established company. You can bet your boots that no Russian hack

[Vo]:OT: Beni sez bin has-been

2008-09-11 Thread Jones Beene
Beni sez bin has-been http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/242.html

Re: [Vo]:The wrath of Ike

2008-09-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jones Beene wrote: > What's the deal with Ike ?... what a strange one Ike is ... > > At first the nut-cases were flooding the blogsphere with reports that > Ike might be a HAARP engineered storm, whose main purpose was to create > a "burp" in falling crude oil prices, since crude appeared to be

RE: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread Rick Monteverde
Jed - >> One of the strengths of Microsoft is that they have many people with many different backgrounds who are familiar with such things. A *Microsoft* voting machine. Now we're talkin'. The guy who gets elected from votes on that system will find himself to be the new president of Romania, a

Re: [Vo]:the LHC

2008-09-11 Thread R C Macaulay
Science used to be objective.. not any more as Purdue proved. Locally, we have the essence of your comment "One mark of them is that they loath freedom of expression, they seem to like controlling what people do and think". The local essence is the University of Houston( a State school) . U o

[Vo]:The wrath of Ike

2008-09-11 Thread Jones Beene
What's the deal with Ike ?... what a strange one Ike is ... At first the nut-cases were flooding the blogsphere with reports that Ike might be a HAARP engineered storm, whose main purpose was to create a "burp" in falling crude oil prices, since crude appeared to be headed below $100 recently..

RE: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rick Monteverde wrote: Funny that technophiles like us would object to these the way we do. I guess it's because we know easily computer systems can often be defeated even when they're touted as being rock solid. Heck, most of the time you don't even have to *try* to get them to fail. Well, I

Re: [Vo]:Nano-thermite aka Superthermite

2008-09-11 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: Robin van Spaandonk > I have wondered about He iso H undergoing shrinkage, and have previously also suggested that perhaps virtually any nucleus could steal a shrunken electron from a Hydrino. However I doubt that there is really anything like this going on in "s

RE: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread Rick Monteverde
I volunteer at a polling place (Honolulu). Started doing that after the 2000 election to try to keep all that Florida style craziness from happening here. Most people here have the idea that those machines are junk and vote paper. Last election I think we had about 6 voters use the machine out of 7

Re: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jed Rothwell wrote: > Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > >> There is *NO* *MENTION* of a "voter verified" paper record. There is >> *NO* requirement that the voter be allowed to *see* the paper record >> indicating how they voted. > > The link you point is the 2002 law. Do you mean the replacement S

Re: [Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: There is *NO* *MENTION* of a "voter verified" paper record. There is *NO* requirement that the voter be allowed to *see* the paper record indicating how they voted. The link you point is the 2002 law. Do you mean the replacement S.3212, "Bipartisan Electronic Votin

RE: [Vo]:the LHC

2008-09-11 Thread Remi Cornwall
Howdy Tex, Storm coming your way. Watch out for the low lying land at Galverston near the oil refinery. Ironic if you believe man-made GW? We've approached venture capital and state funding. Yes sea change in attitude to new energy physics. It can be between a rock and a hard place: the bottom li

[Vo]:HAVA: Game over?

2008-09-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
There has been some discussion on this list in the past regarding electronic voting and the vital role played by a voter-verified paper trail. In 2002 the U.S. election system was reformed, with the passage of HAVA (the Help America Vote Act), which aims to eliminate the problems caused by punch c

Re: [Vo]:Nagel to give keynote address

2008-09-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
I uploaded the conference link and lecture abstract to the news section: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm - Jed

Re: [Vo]:the LHC

2008-09-11 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Remi, Quantum Entanglement ?? You mean like.. Don Rumsfeld stating deficits no longer matter. The US Guv'ment just printing 5.4 trillion dollars and change to bail out the drunks at Fred & Fannie's bar and grill? Well.. err.. maybe not bail 'em out, just sorta allowed them to keep running

[Vo]:Nagel to give keynote address

2008-09-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.vaeng.com/news/dr-nagel-to-keynote-isa-expo-2008 Dr. David J. Nagel, Research Professor at The George Washington University, will present the International Society for Measurement & Control (ISA) EXPO 2008 Keynote/Rimbach Lecture on October 15th at ISA EXPO 2008 in Houston, Te