Re: [Vo]:Freewheelin'

2009-01-10 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 10, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace Unless it was all just unfounded hype, a better solution (pun) may be at hand from Daniel G. Nocera, the Henry Dreyfus Professor of Energy at MIT. See announcement: Whoa. I do not see the situation as "either/or". This is apples-to-

Re: [Vo]:Freewheelin'

2009-01-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > England and No. Europe have fabulous offshore wind sites, which are being > exploited even with the obvious prolems of placing them in deep water . . . The offshore sites in England and Ireland are rather deep, as are the ones off the U.S. coast, but the best sites in North

Re: [Vo]:Freewheelin'

2009-01-10 Thread Horace Heffner
If Nocera's method is not truly 100% efficient, i.e. the recombination energy equals the electrical energy of the electrolysis, then methods I have suggested for overcoming electrolyte resistance due to bubble formation, large gap size, the requirement for electrode separation membranes, th

Re: [Vo]:Freewheelin'

2009-01-10 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 10, 2009, at 7:20 AM, Jones Beene wrote: His Magnetolysis concept removes two levels of intervening complications into the big picture of splitting water - yet admittedly - it would not be "simple" to implement, but hey: to paraphrase Billie Holliday: the difficult is done at once,

Re: [Vo]:Freewheelin'

2009-01-10 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, Thanks for reminding me of Bockris . I went back and looked at some of his work form A&M days. Proves that innovation and ideas only demonstrate that no virtue goes unpunished. Richard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bockris

[Vo]:Freewheelin'

2009-01-10 Thread Jones Beene
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind ... One of the better papers ever written on alternative energy came out 24 years ago in the Journal for Hydrogen Energy - written by John Bockris. I am going to try to cast part of it into a new light... or make that: cast it into the wind. http://

Re: [VO]: Re: Predictions for year 2009

2009-01-10 Thread Horace Heffner
Some qualifications and updates follow. I wrote: "If I-bonds or TIPS are held to maturity, unlike typical bond funds, or even the TIP ETF, no principle can be lost, and they probably gain a lot of interest. I-bonds can be held beyond maturity and still earn interest which is tax sheltered u

[Vo]:Predictions for year 2009

2009-01-10 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Horace Heffner wrote: > > At least hopefully economics, though known as the dismal science, > is at least closer to on topic here than religion. Hi All, Economics is entwined with energy; and, for that reason, is definitely on topic. $40 per barrel oil will be used to club alternative energy;

Re: [VO]: Re: Predictions for year 2009

2009-01-10 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jan 9, 2009, at 7:10 PM, R C Macaulay wrote: Howdy Vorts, Anyone have a handle on what is referred to in the stock market as "dark pools" ? Are they engaged in "forward selling" that may be the cause of the weekly uppity-downs in the Dow? Sum'tin tells me that there are some people out