[Vo]:Cute intro video at overunity.com

2009-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
See:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php

This site a mishmash of claims presented without differentiation or
editorial judgment (not unlike LENR-CANR.org I admit).

Anyway, the video that plays when you first enter the site is clever. It
looks like an antique silent-film movie. I like the portrait of Tesla in the
background. I suppose this is an animation but it is so realistic it looks
like a stop-action film.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Rothwell has no opinion about theory

2009-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote:


 5.  By making the grid elements small, say under 0.1 cm, there will be a
 clear marking of a scale on the micrographs and this will hopefully assist
 in counting and locating tracks, although the hole diameter should of course
 be larger that the thickness of the primary metallic layer (base),


Is this supposed to be 0.1 mm?

With cumulative detectors like this, such as x-ray film and CR39, I
recommend some sort of mask; that is, something that blocks the particles
you are trying to detect, and casts a shadow. Not seeing particles is a good
as seeing them, in a sense. Italian researchers used dental x-ray film to
detect x-rays in aqueous electrochemical cells. The anode cast a shadow on
the film, and they used this shadow to make various analyses. It was
remarkable how much information they got out the x-rays.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Professors who have no interest in cold fusion

2009-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote:


 CATEGORY 3. People who have read a lot about the research but sincerely
 believe that all of the results are mistaken or fraud. As long as they do
 not persecute researchers they have done nothing wrong. They are incompetent
 in my opinion, but that is not an ethical issue.


This is getting off topic, but regarding stupid people promoted to positions
of high authority, here is what Harry Truman said soon after he fired
Douglas MacArthur:

I fired him because he wouldn't respect the authority of the president. I
didn't fire him because he was a dumb son-of-a-bitch, although he was, but
that's not against the law for generals. If it was, half to three-quarters
of them would be in jail.
It makes me nostalgic for the era when politicians and others said what they
meant without sugarcoating or political correctness. I doubt Obama would
ever say a thing like that, or even *think* a thing like that. More's the
pity. He was on stage praising Moniz. I doubt he knows that Moniz is a
political animal who has been trying to derail cold fusion with unfair
tactics for years. I wonder if he would do anything even if he did know.
Obama is not a naif so he knows such people are common in high places.

Many political leaders are aware that cold fusion is real, but they have not
lifted a finger to help it because it is too controversial and they do not
want to risk their credibility. This is appalling.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Gravity role in fusion

2009-10-25 Thread Horace Heffner


On Oct 24, 2009, at 5:58 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote:


Horace Heffner wrote:


On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Mauro Lacy wrote:



OK here's Newton's law of gravitation defined:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_law_of_universal_gravitation

When bodies are large with respect to the distance between them, or
even overlap, forces on every tiny volume of a given body are
computed as the sum of forces over many small units of volume of  
the
surrounding space. This summation is an integration process,  
with the
volumes being examined in the limit where they approach zero  
volume.

In the limit the number of chunks of volume dV becomes infinite and
their volumes become zero - i.e. points. This is just basic
calculus.  This is how Coulomb's law (and Newton's gravitational
equivalent) is applied for non-point objects.  It works for  
ordinary

volumes, like spheres, even inside them, and it works for wave
functions.

Yes, but you seem to ignore that this working gives a different  
result

(rate of change or strength) in each of those cases you mention.


You ignore that *both* the Coulomb and Newton laws apply in every
case, i.e. for every pair of tiny volumes between which forces are
computed, and thus the huge *ratio* of forces remains at about
10^30.  The fact that all kinds of wild fields and force equations
result from macro sized bodies is completely irrelevant to the
accuracy of the fundamental laws.



Let's say that to me, that remains to be demonstrated.



OK, I'll give up on that.








And particularly on the subatomic scale, as you said, this different
result is to be associated with a wave function. This wave function
then,
in the case of the Coloumb force, does prevent the electron from
collapsing into the nucleus, and prevents the protons to be
escaping from
it.


So what?  The solar system runs for billions of years without
collapsing.  Does this invalidate Newton's laws of gravitation?  No.
There is no reason to expect the Coulomb force to disappear at small
radii just because it is balanced by other forces. The law is still
valid, there are merely other forces at work at close range which
have to be added also. Even if it did, similar effects would happen
to the gravitational force as well, so it is *remains* insignificant
compared to the Coulomb force.  The two forces are coupled to a given
volume in very similar ratios, not varying in ratio by anything like
10^30 for any pair of charged particles at a given distance r.



What I'm thinking is that those other forces you mention are no  
more than gravity in disguise. Gravity in another mode of operation.
When in the past the method of integration of point forces for  
gravity was defined, it was defined based on the mode of action of  
gravity at macroscopic scales. And maybe that is not the best way  
to see it at microscopic scales.
Newton proceeded partially by induction(i.e. based on known data)  
when deriving the law of gravity, and after that, others proceeded  
by deduction, assuming that the same basic law applies at all  
scales. After that, others arranged some wave functions to make  
things fit with the classical laws when they didn't(in the atom),  
and invented other forces when that wasn't enough(in the nucleus).


In the same way as, in a sense, gravity changes mode when  
entering the Earth, something similar could be happening at the  
atomic level.


Please consider the following scenario. I'll talk here about two  
forces, but you'll see later that they can be unified:
- An electron approaches a proton, attracted by both, the electric  
force and the gravitational force(to a much weaker extent).
- Approaching the Bohr radius, an inversion process start to  
manifest for the gravitational force: it starts to increasingly  
repel instead of attract. Let's not hypothesize now about the  
reasons for that to be happening, just let me describe the theory.
- At the Bohr radius, the repulsive gravitational force equals the  
Coulomb force, and the electron is stable in its orbit.
- Inside the Bohr radius, the repulsive force continue growing up  
to a certain point, that lies somewhere in the middle between the  
orbit of the electron and the center of the nucleus.
- After that point, gravity becomes attractive again(but much  
strongly), and after that, its strength diminishes(not increases)  
with distance to the center. And that's the nuclear force.


The Bohr radius is then the result of the interaction of the  
Coulomb force with the repulsive mode of the gravitational force.  
The other orbitals are other points of equilibrium of these two  
forces.


This has no sense of reality for me.  Even as a repulsive force,  
gravity has the net same 1/r^2 *apparent attractive* effect from  
spherical shadowing.If gravity and the Coulomb force are both 1/ 
r^2 forces then they remain in the roughly 10^30 ratio range with  
regards to fusion (the topic of this thread) because you can't have  
charge without mass.


That 

Re: [Vo]:Rothwell has no opinion about theory

2009-10-25 Thread Horace Heffner


On Oct 25, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:


Horace Heffner wrote:

5.  By making the grid elements small, say under 0.1 cm, there will  
be a clear marking of a scale on the micrographs and this will  
hopefully assist in counting and locating tracks, although the hole  
diameter should of course be larger that the thickness of the  
primary metallic layer (base),


Is this supposed to be 0.1 mm?


No.  This is the suggested grid element size - the spacing between  
hole centers.  The holes at that spacing would have to be less than  
0.5 mm in diameter.  One of the problems with this grid idea is the  
problem of bubble removal.  I think the holes will quickly have  
bubbles covering the tops of them, but surface tension will continue  
to wet the inside surface and provide the ion flow path.  It should  
take some experimenting to find the best hole size, including  
possibly adding sonic cell shakers to limit bubble size.






With cumulative detectors like this, such as x-ray film and CR39, I  
recommend some sort of mask; that is, something that blocks the  
particles you are trying to detect, and casts a shadow.


Yes, and of course masks of various thicknesses and kinds are useful  
for particle discrimination.  The use of a grid of lots of tiny cells  
in a single experiment makes feasible aligning many different kinds,  
thicknesses, and patterns of discriminators with specific holes in  
the grid.  This in effect, can provide many experiments for the price  
of one, which, with a little trouble, all run with the same voltage,  
current, chemical, and field  time line profiles.



Not seeing particles is a good as seeing them, in a sense. Italian  
researchers used dental x-ray film to detect x-rays in aqueous  
electrochemical cells. The anode cast a shadow on the film, and  
they used this shadow to make various analyses. It was remarkable  
how much information they got out the x-rays.


- Jed




Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/






Re: [Vo]:Cute intro video at overunity.com

2009-10-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 10:21 AM 10/25/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:

See:

http://www.overunity.com/index.phphttp://www.overunity.com/index.php

This site a mishmash of claims presented without differentiation or 
editorial judgment (not unlike LENR-CANR.org I admit).


Anyway, the video that plays when you first enter the site is 
clever. It looks like an antique silent-film movie. I like the 
portrait of Tesla in the background. I suppose this is an animation 
but it is so realistic it looks like a stop-action film.


Cool animation, but WTF? Google ad on the site attracted my eye, so I 
clicked on it.


How to Make Electricity?
$200 kit has energy co's profits falling, exec's calling for its ban.

Okay, what kind of scam is this? So I went to the site and, damn if I 
wasn't tempted to pay them the $49.95 for their on-line publication. 
Slick as hell. They aren't selling some free-energy ripoff, they 
aren't selling kits, actually, they are selling plans about how to 
put together solar panels and a windmill. They make it sound very 
attractive. It might or might not actually be a ripoff, but there are 
signs of, shall we say, puffery. Anyway, Overunity.com made a few 
cents off of my click. Multiply this by the readers of Vo, and it is 
actual pocket change. However, this is my basic turnoff: the original 
ad. Execs calling for its ban. Definitely puffery, unless 
unless it really is a ripoff, i.e., if the plans are completely 
impractical. Like, to make the solar cells, get some clean beach sand and 


He doesn't say that it's easy to do the work! And, when it boils down 
to it, that is mostly what we pay for when we buy stuff. Do it 
yourself and it's free! Not. All we have to spend is our labor, in 
the end. (Okay, so there is something else, this isn't a complete 
economic analysis, but it's true for many or most of us, to a large extent.)


We need a cold fusion wiki, Jed. Wikis are actually truly excellent 
methods of developing documentation, under some conditions. The 
conditions could be created. The problem with Wikipedia is not the 
wiki concept, nor is it the skeptics and pinheads, the problem is 
that when the scale is beyond a certain scale and the participating 
community doesn't have a clear and genuine unifying goal, the 
adhocracy that was set up for Wikipedia is not only incredibly 
inefficient, it is quirky and vulnerable to certain kinds of abuse. 
And once this situation arises, it's very difficult to change. It's 
quite predictable, actually, it's like clockwork. 



Re: [Vo]:Rothwell has no opinion about theory

2009-10-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
This is also a preliminary response to Horace. I agree that the 
Galileo Project is a poor kit to offer, or whatever you wrote. 
However, it was designed for simplicity. Make it complicated, and 
replication becomes less likely. I'm starting for my own testing 
with Galileo because I'm confident that I'll see results, not because 
the design is optimal. There are many aspects to the design that can 
safely be optimized, especially by adding external monitoring of 
various kinds. Cathode design is an obvious place to move to, but 
much monkeying with it in the initial tests gets increasingly risky 
with how complex the change is. What you have written, Horace, isn't 
wasted, it will be considered as final cathode design moves forward. 
Fabrication through plating had already been considered. (Why use a 
gold wire if a gold-plated silver wire, for example, would do?)


It's been suggested that I study various topics. Great idea. When I 
have another lifetime to spare, I will. Seriously, every day I feel 
intensely the weight of my ignorance about, say, electrochemistry. 
Especially electrochemistry. As well, my knowledge about the behavior 
of various elements under alpha bombardment is severely limited. So 
many topics, so little time. So ... I punt. I depend on my friends 
and even on my enemies. They will point my bloopers out to me. In a 
way, I'm just a node in a network, my own intelligence is quite 
limited, the network's intelligence is not nearly as limited. If I 
don't listen to my friends, that's when I become truly stupid.


At 11:42 AM 10/25/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:

Horace Heffner wrote:

5.  By making the grid elements small, say under 0.1 cm, there will 
be a clear marking of a scale on the micrographs and this will 
hopefully assist in counting and locating tracks, although the hole 
diameter should of course be larger that the thickness of the 
primary metallic layer (base),



Is this supposed to be 0.1 mm?


With cumulative detectors like this, such as x-ray film and CR39, I 
recommend some sort of mask; that is, something that blocks the 
particles you are trying to detect, and casts a shadow. Not seeing 
particles is a good as seeing them, in a sense. Italian researchers 
used dental x-ray film to detect x-rays in aqueous electrochemical 
cells. The anode cast a shadow on the film, and they used this 
shadow to make various analyses. It was remarkable how much 
information they got out the x-rays.


Yes. Excellent idea, and easy to implement. It also brings up another 
possibility, time-dependent masking. One of the problems with CR-39 
or LR-115 detectors is their very strength, they are cumulative. What 
if a mask is shifted in position so that a single detector covers a 
time period instead of the whole run? In addition, when the 
experiment is terminated, the cathode should be held against a 
detector for a time, for an auto-radiograph detecting residual 
radioactivity. With controls, of course.


Some aspects of the reports I've seen indicate that the palladium 
plating may be fragile and can fall off easily, so moving stuff 
around is tricky. However, all the CR-39 I've seen that has been 
immersion with direct contact with the cathode has been, essentially, 
overexposed, so counting of tracks in the most active areas is 
impossible. LR-115 should be more tolerant of high track density, 
that's why I'm investigating it. I also intend to play with 
commercial CR-39 that is not the special stuff used by 
Fukuvi/Landauer, which is pretty expensive. I might put a lot of it 
in the cell, actually displacing significant heavy water. I was going 
to use acrylic for that, as well as to support more precise cathode 
structures than the flexible polyethylene cathode support Galileo 
used (and substituting acrylic is safe, I expect), but why not use 
cheap CR-39 and then see what happens when it's etched?


Whatever I do, it has to start out very simple, or I'm unlikely to 
actually do it. But once I have something working and can replicate 
it, then the design can grow, with a baseline to compare it with. At 
a certain point, what I have will be sufficient to begin sales, and 
then the community of customers will help develop it further.




Re: [Vo]:Professors who have no interest in cold fusion

2009-10-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 12:15 PM 10/25/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:

Many political leaders are aware that cold fusion is real, but they 
have not lifted a finger to help it because it is too controversial 
and they do not want to risk their credibility. This is appalling.


Well, perhaps. However, the real problem is in the very concept of 
political leaders. In a sane system, they are only servants. Not 
rubber stamps for popular opinion, but servants chosen for their 
character and intelligence, those who will use their intelligence to 
serve. So if action A is being considered, and is popular, and the 
servant believes that A is bogus and will fail, he or she will inform 
the employer. Us. And we need to be, collectively, smart enough to 
trust those we have chosen to be trustworthy, at least to trust them 
enough to respect their advice. We can still say, We've decided to 
do it, having considered your valued advice, and if we are wrong, we 
will not only not blame you, we will remember that you were right.


No smart employer hires Yes-men, except maybe to sweep the floor, and 
even then who threw away the Case carbon?


So ... how to develop mass intelligence? It's been considered an 
insoluble problem. I don't think it is. But if we believe that it's 
insoluble, we certainly won't find a solution, and we will reject 
proposed solutions out of hand, or at least not waste time considering them.


Kind of like cold fusion, eh? Indeed. That's what got me here. It's 
simply one more example. I'm trying to connect a community, call it 
my customers. This community is formed to advise me how to serve 
them, but I make my own decisions, I'm not going to simply poll them 
and do whatever is most popular. But whatever I do will be 
transparent, so... if I get really stupid in my old age, someone else 
can take the position independently. Nothing will be wasted. As I'll 
be a servant of the community, and to the extent that I actually 
serve it, they will support me. This is actually how business 
functions, when it's working and when the customers are awake. I 
won't own my customers and they won't own me. It's a cooperative 
effort, continuously voluntary.


(So: critical factor in whatever I set up: the customers can, to 
whatever extent they personally allow, communicate directly with each 
other; otherwise the central mechanism of communication can repress 
dissent, and even with that facility, the difficulty of initiating a 
new central communication structure and gaining participation can 
effectively repress dissent even when bypassing central control is 
still possible. Registered Wikipedia editors can email each other 
using the on-line interface, but when an editor is considered 
disruptive, and abuses email -- which can mean that they were so 
foolish as to email someone who didn't like it -- the bit that allows 
email communication can be flipped, and often is. I want a truly 
intelligent customer community, one capable of direct internal 
communication, not corruptible, always dependent for its activities 
on the individual interests of the customers, so that however it 
advises me is the best and most representative advice I could get 
from them, not just what I want to hear.) 



Re: [Vo]:Cute intro video at overunity.com

2009-10-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:

 Okay, what kind of scam is this?

It was discussed in this thread:

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg33209.html

I wrote Google about the deceptive ad and have not seen it again there.

Terry



Re: [Vo]:Cute intro video at overunity.com

2009-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

Cool animation, but WTF? Google ad on the site attracted my eye, so 
I clicked on it.


How to Make Electricity?
$200 kit has energy co's profits falling, exec's calling for its ban.


I didn't even notice that. This site has links to LENR-CANR.org, 
which is why I noticed it. It is unfortunate that websites, magazines 
and people associated with cold fusion are sometimes also associated 
with things like commercial ZPE free energy claims.


An expert told me that the movie is pure animation, no stop action involved.

- Jed



RE: [Vo]:Professors who have no interest in cold fusion

2009-10-25 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
I like these lines of thought, Abd ul-Rahman.

Communities-of-practice are similar to what, as I understand it, you are
proposing and thinking.

A substantial amount of thinking and experience has now emerged around the
communities-of-practice idea, and several such communities have received
significant benefit from so organizing themselves. Many of these have been
on-line creations.

Cheers,

Lawry

-Original Message-
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:36 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Professors who have no interest in cold fusion

At 12:15 PM 10/25/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:

Many political leaders are aware that cold fusion is real, but they 
have not lifted a finger to help it because it is too controversial 
and they do not want to risk their credibility. This is appalling.

Well, perhaps. However, the real problem is in the very concept of 
political leaders. In a sane system, they are only servants. Not 
rubber stamps for popular opinion, but servants chosen for their 
character and intelligence, those who will use their intelligence to 
serve. So if action A is being considered, and is popular, and the 
servant believes that A is bogus and will fail, he or she will inform 
the employer. Us. And we need to be, collectively, smart enough to 
trust those we have chosen to be trustworthy, at least to trust them 
enough to respect their advice. We can still say, We've decided to 
do it, having considered your valued advice, and if we are wrong, we 
will not only not blame you, we will remember that you were right.

No smart employer hires Yes-men, except maybe to sweep the floor, and 
even then who threw away the Case carbon?

So ... how to develop mass intelligence? It's been considered an 
insoluble problem. I don't think it is. But if we believe that it's 
insoluble, we certainly won't find a solution, and we will reject 
proposed solutions out of hand, or at least not waste time considering them.

Kind of like cold fusion, eh? Indeed. That's what got me here. It's 
simply one more example. I'm trying to connect a community, call it 
my customers. This community is formed to advise me how to serve 
them, but I make my own decisions, I'm not going to simply poll them 
and do whatever is most popular. But whatever I do will be 
transparent, so... if I get really stupid in my old age, someone else 
can take the position independently. Nothing will be wasted. As I'll 
be a servant of the community, and to the extent that I actually 
serve it, they will support me. This is actually how business 
functions, when it's working and when the customers are awake. I 
won't own my customers and they won't own me. It's a cooperative 
effort, continuously voluntary.

(So: critical factor in whatever I set up: the customers can, to 
whatever extent they personally allow, communicate directly with each 
other; otherwise the central mechanism of communication can repress 
dissent, and even with that facility, the difficulty of initiating a 
new central communication structure and gaining participation can 
effectively repress dissent even when bypassing central control is 
still possible. Registered Wikipedia editors can email each other 
using the on-line interface, but when an editor is considered 
disruptive, and abuses email -- which can mean that they were so 
foolish as to email someone who didn't like it -- the bit that allows 
email communication can be flipped, and often is. I want a truly 
intelligent customer community, one capable of direct internal 
communication, not corruptible, always dependent for its activities 
on the individual interests of the customers, so that however it 
advises me is the best and most representative advice I could get 
from them, not just what I want to hear.) 




[Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-25 Thread Jones Beene
Given the looming importance of the Arata-Zhang finding - of a special
importance for a particular nickel alloy, over and above palladium for
baseline LENR effects - taken alongside the Mills and numerous other reports
of energy anomalies with nickel electrodes, one might ask: what is special
about nickel in regard to lower energy nuclear activity ? I am assuming of
course, that Mills is hiding or ignoring the nuclear transmutation which is
occurring in his devices, for a number of proprietary reasons.

Dunno for sure what is special about nickel. But I started brooding on this
subject this morning, trying hard to think outside the mainstream box, and
two things stand out as potentially important: 

1)  Nickel is one of only two elements in the periodic table whose
atomic weight is less than the preceding element (cobalt in this case). The
other is so rare as to be of minimal importance.
2)  In stellar cosmology, the nuclear fusion (nucleosynthesis) of
heavier elements, the maximum weight for any element which can be fused is
nickel (not iron as is commonly thought) reaching an isotope with an atomic
mass of 56 - however this nickel isotope then decays to iron. Iron and
nickel are 'joined at the hip' in many ways.

To further expound on why this could be important in LENR transmutation:
atomic weight is found by taking the atomic mass of each isotope and
averaging by that isotopes natural abundance. The reason for the drop in
atomic weight in nickel (compared to Cobalt which precedes it) is due to the
distribution of isotopes: nickel-58 (68%), nickel-60 (26%), nickel-61 (1%),
nickel-62 (4%), nickel-64 (1%). Because the largest contributor to the
atomic weight of nickel is the nickel-58 isotope, which is lighter than
cobalt-59, the overall atomic weight comes out light despite nickel having
the extra proton. This is not quite a singularity, but the other time it
occurs in nature is with tellurium and iodine. 

The importance of this factoid - if it does prove to be relevant for ease
of transmutation is that nickel can be hypothesized to be the most
relatively receptive common element in the periodic table for the addition
of nuclear mass, due to its inherent lightness on relative stepwise scale.
We are eliminating the Coulomb problem for the time being (to be explained).
In the past everything nuclear seemed to revolve around charge, and large
nuclei with larger charge were seen as being relatively less likely to be
affected by another nucleus. This assumption may be wrong in a situation of
very tight orbital spacing or orientation (even if that is an illusion based
on relativistic factors as Fran Roarty suggests).

IOW - if it turns out the hydrogen or deuterium do in fact have fleeting
lower ground states, which can be defined in a way which is very different
from the way that Randell Mills does in his CQM theory, and even if the
(so-called) orbital is not stable over time as Mills claims (and as we
perceive it in 3-space) then there will exist the arguable ability of the
altered near-field of hydrogen (or altered statistics of charge placement)
to assist in overcoming normal Coulomb repulsion wrt other nuclei. 

If and when this happens, then nickel becomes arguably the most
nuclear-active element in the entire periodic table, due to its relative
lightness (as defined above) . yes, admittedly this is a stretch in
logical reasoning if one is hemmed in by mainstream teaching on the subject
and by majority opinions. That is why it is necessary on occasion to force
oneself to think outside the box.

And after all - a stretch in logical reasoning is also what Sunday
mornings are best suited for anyway, no?

Jones





Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-25 Thread Terry Blanton
It might be noted that, for pure Ni, the crystal structure is quite
similar to Pd whose face is only 36 pm larger.

Terry

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Given the looming importance of the Arata-Zhang finding - of a special
 importance for a particular nickel alloy, over and above palladium for
 baseline LENR effects - taken alongside the Mills and numerous other reports
 of energy anomalies with nickel electrodes, one might ask: what is special
 about nickel in regard to lower energy nuclear activity ? I am assuming of
 course, that Mills is hiding or ignoring the nuclear transmutation which is
 occurring in his devices, for a number of proprietary reasons.

 Dunno for sure what is special about nickel. But I started brooding on this
 subject this morning, trying hard to think outside the “mainstream” box, and
 two things stand out as potentially important:

 1)  Nickel is one of only two elements in the periodic table whose
 atomic weight is less than the preceding element (cobalt in this case). The
 other is so rare as to be of minimal importance.

 2)  In stellar cosmology, the nuclear fusion (nucleosynthesis) of
 heavier elements, the maximum weight for any element which can be fused is
 nickel (not iron as is commonly thought) reaching an isotope with an atomic
 mass of 56 – however this nickel isotope then decays to iron. Iron and
 nickel are ‘joined at the hip’ in many ways.

 To further expound on why this could be important in LENR transmutation:
 atomic weight is found by taking the atomic mass of each isotope and
 averaging by that isotopes natural abundance. The reason for the drop in
 atomic weight in nickel (compared to Cobalt which precedes it) is due to the
 distribution of isotopes: nickel-58 (68%), nickel-60 (26%), nickel-61 (1%),
 nickel-62 (4%), nickel-64 (1%). Because the largest contributor to the
 atomic weight of nickel is the nickel-58 isotope, which is lighter than
 cobalt-59, the overall atomic weight comes out “light” despite nickel having
 the extra proton. This is not quite a singularity, but the other time it
 occurs in nature is with tellurium and iodine.

 The importance of this factoid – if it does prove to be relevant for “ease
 of transmutation” is that nickel can be hypothesized to be the most
 “relatively receptive” common element in the periodic table for the addition
 of nuclear mass, due to its inherent “lightness” on relative stepwise scale.
 We are eliminating the Coulomb problem for the time being (to be explained).
 In the past everything nuclear seemed to revolve around charge, and large
 nuclei with larger charge were seen as being relatively less likely to be
 affected by another nucleus. This assumption may be wrong in a situation of
 very tight orbital spacing or orientation (even if that is an illusion based
 on relativistic factors as Fran Roarty suggests).

 IOW – if it turns out the hydrogen or deuterium do in fact have fleeting
 “lower ground states”, which can be defined in a way which is very different
 from the way that Randell Mills does in his CQM theory, and even if the
 (so-called) orbital is not stable over time as Mills claims (and as we
 perceive it in 3-space) then there will exist the arguable ability of the
 altered near-field of hydrogen (or altered statistics of charge placement)
 to assist in overcoming normal Coulomb repulsion wrt other nuclei.

 If and when this happens, then nickel becomes arguably the “most
 nuclear-active element in the entire periodic table”, due to its “relative
 lightness” (as defined above) … yes, admittedly this is a “stretch” in
 logical reasoning if one is hemmed in by mainstream teaching on the subject
 and by majority opinions. That is why it is necessary on occasion to force
 oneself to think “outside the box.”

 And after all - a “stretch” in logical reasoning is also what Sunday
 mornings are best suited for anyway, no?

 Jones




Re: [Vo]:Mauro's Theory

2009-10-25 Thread Horace Heffner


On Oct 24, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote:


Regarding the concept of carrier particles, like photons and  
gravitons,
it is clear to me that, in the case of the photon, we're in the  
presence
of something like a pulse or wave train(a discrete number of  
waves), and

that we assume that wave train to be a particle, and to act like a
particle in its interactions with other particles. Photons are  
mainly
travelling(propagating) waves, while electrons and protons are  
(mainly)

rotating ones.

So, photons are the propagation of discrete transversal wave  
trains, and

gravitons (if they exist) will be the propagation of forms of
pulsating(longitudinal) movement in the fabric of space, in the  
form of

discrete longitudinal wave trains.

Mauro


I think it might be worth considering that the terms photon and  
graviton as well as virtual photon already have commonly accepted  
definitions.  The graviton and virtual photon are the messenger  
particles of the gravitational and Coulomb forces respectively.  The  
photon is a packet of electromagnetic energy, and thus carries  
positive momentum and interacts with gravity.  The graviton is the  
gravitational analog of the virtual photon.  They both can feasibly  
exchange positive or negative momentum.  They are near field force  
carriers.


Now, there is an obvious hole in the definitions - the gravitational  
analog to the photon.  This is the graviphoton. This was defined by  
Barbieri and Cecotti in:


http://www.springerlink.com/content/m5724623tt5ph28j/

as an arbitrarily light vector boson which is coupled with typical  
gravitational strength to matter hyper multiplets, possessing  
unbroken guauge interactions as well!  Now that I find difficult to  
follow!  However, their model does predict gravitational force  
anomalies at close range, which you might find interesting and  
similar to your own thoughts.


In my own theory:

http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FullGravimag.pdf

I simply defined the graviphoton as the gravitational analog to the  
photon.  Since the premise of my theory is that the laws of gravity  
and electromagnetics are isomorphic, and I have defined the 1-1  
correspondences that create the isomorphism, such a definition has a  
very precise meaning in terms of formulations.


In either definition, the graviphoton carries both energy and  
positive momentum. It can exert a gravitational *push*. Because they  
carry energy, and thus mass, neither the photon nor the graviphoton  
can escape from a black hole.  Gravitons can escape from a black hole  
else a black hole could not exert gravity and thus a black hole that  
can suck in mass from long rage, like those we see in galaxy centers,  
could not exist. My theory, unlike all others I know of, predicts  
that virtual photons, which carry no mass, can not carry  
gravitational charge, and thus *can* escape black holes. Information  
is not lost when matter falls into black holes.  Black holes can have  
magnetic and electrostatic fields.  This means that black holes can  
be manufactured and contained electromagnetically, and they can be  
accelerated. They can be manipulated for many purposes.  It also  
means that black hole mergers should produce quadrupole ELF magnetic  
signatures which dwarf gravimagnetic signatures by 30 orders of  
magnitude, and may already exist in geomagnetic ELF data.


These distinctions result in predictions may have great importance  
when it comes to astronomical observations.  For example, when it  
comes to very high energy x-rays, it may well be that some of the  
photons observed may actually be graviphotons.  Photons from mirror  
matter, if it exists, are not observable by us.  However,  
graviphotons from mirror matter would be observable.  If there a  
method to distinguish the two, and I provided that, then we can have  
an x-ray view into the universe of mirror matter stars, i.e. the high  
energy ones any way.


It seems to me that when tiny things are examined quantum  
mechanically, there always results a wave particle duality.  Since  
this is the case in electromagnetism we certainly should expect it to  
be true for gravity, if ever there is to be a quantum theory of gravity.


The obvious question that arises then if there is to be a wave theory  
of gravity, what waves?  What qualities of vacuum will permit such  
waves.  In the case of electromagnetic waves we have the permittivity  
e0 and permeablity u0 of the vacuum.  The 1-1 correspondence requires  
a gravipermittivity e0_g = 1/(4 Pi G) = 1.192299(31)x10^9 kg s^2/m^3,  
and a gravipermeability u0  = 4 Pi G/ (c_g) = = 9.33196(96)x10^-27 m/ 
kg, where c_g is the speed of gravity propagation, as defined by  
Jefimenko.


What is unique about my theory is the use of the imaginary number i  
in the units expressing mass charge, and all gravimagnetic field  
values. This convention permits the establishment of a full  
isomorphism, gets the force directions right in all 

RE: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-25 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton 

 It might be noted that, for pure Ni, the crystal structure is quite
similar to Pd whose face is only 36 pm larger.

Would it be your opinion then, that the A-Z alloy (84% Ni, 16% Pd) would
have a slightly tighter internal cavity than pure palladium? That could be
important, if true.

Again, it is important to go back to graph in the 2003 paper where this
alloy is shown to hold almost a 3:1 atomic ratio of hydrogen relative to the
metal atoms. 

There was a time in LENR when 1:1 was thought to be the best that you could
get. Now we find 3:1 with the new alloy and in addition to that, a tighter
cavity ... voila - fusion with no added energy above the 300 psi
over-pressure.

I'd have to call that very remarkable...

Jones





Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene referred to the Arata  Zhang material with 84% Ni, 16% Pd. I
believe this is their most effective alloy yet. It is described in the
ICCF-15 abstracts, p. 35, quoted in full:


PRODUCTION OF HELIUM AND ENERGY IN THE “SOLID FUSION”

Y. Arata, Y.C. Zhang, and X.F. Wang
Center for Advanced Science and Innovation, Osaka University
2-1 Yamadaoka, Suita, Osaka, 565-0871, Japan

In this paper, A new type “Solid Fusion Reactor” has been developed to test
the existence of solid state nuclear fusion (“ Solid Fusion”): reproducible
experiments have been made at room temperature and without external power
input. Both of the energy and Helium generation affected by the reactor
structure, gas flow rate, powder weight, and cooling condition were studied.
Deuterium gas loading processes of two types of nanomaterial (ZrO[2]*Pd35
and ZrO[2]*Ni[30]Pd[5]) were studied respectively in this paper. The results
showed the energy produced in ZrO2*Ni30Pd5 is higher than in ZrO2*Pd35.
Helium as an important evidence of solid-state fusion was detected by mass
analyzer “QMS”. As result, “ Solid Fusion” has been confirmed by the helium
existence, and then we developed the Helium production system


I should scan the Arata handout paper. He will not allow me to upload it but
I can give out copies privately, I suppose.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Cute intro video at overunity.com

2009-10-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
That isn't the ad in question. I didn't even look at that one. I 
quoted what the ad said for the site I looked at. No pseudoscience or 
fringe science involved, as far as I could see. Just, in the end, 
plans for a solar cell array and a wind turbine. Good plans? Worth 
$50? I have no ieda, but I was not inspired by the hype to trust them.


At 01:48 PM 10/25/2009, Terry Blanton wrote:

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:

 Okay, what kind of scam is this?

It was discussed in this thread:

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg33209.html

I wrote Google about the deceptive ad and have not seen it again there.

Terry




RE: [Vo]:Professors who have no interest in cold fusion

2009-10-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 02:11 PM 10/25/2009, Lawrence de Bivort wrote:

I like these lines of thought, Abd ul-Rahman.


Thanks. A lot has gone into them, and not just thinking, but hands-on practice.


Communities-of-practice are similar to what, as I understand it, you are
proposing and thinking.

A substantial amount of thinking and experience has now emerged around the
communities-of-practice idea, and several such communities have received
significant benefit from so organizing themselves. Many of these have been
on-line creations.


It works, that's known, under the right conditions. Problems only 
arise when the scale becomes very large, for the most part, and so 
when I'm suggesting organizations, I suggest building in simple, 
efficient methods that will allow the beneficial aspects of 
small-scale peer communities, that can enjoy high unity of purpose 
without becoming paralyzed, even if the scale becomes large. If that 
were difficult, it wouldn't be worth it. I believe it's easy, almost 
trivially simple, but because it doesn't seem necessary at the 
beginning, it isn't done until the scale becomes too large to do it, 
so more centralized structures are created, i.e., traditional organizations.


Traditional organizations work, and don't work, and we are all 
familiar with both. 



Re: [Vo]:Mauro's Theory

2009-10-25 Thread Mauro Lacy
Horace Heffner wrote:
 On Oct 24, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote:


   
 Regarding the concept of carrier particles, like photons and  
 gravitons,
 it is clear to me that, in the case of the photon, we're in the  
 presence
 of something like a pulse or wave train(a discrete number of  
 waves), and
 that we assume that wave train to be a particle, and to act like a
 particle in its interactions with other particles. Photons are  
 mainly
 travelling(propagating) waves, while electrons and protons are  
 (mainly)
 rotating ones.

 So, photons are the propagation of discrete transversal wave  
 trains, and
 gravitons (if they exist) will be the propagation of forms of
 pulsating(longitudinal) movement in the fabric of space, in the  
 form of
 discrete longitudinal wave trains.

 Mauro
 

 I think it might be worth considering that the terms photon and  
 graviton as well as virtual photon already have commonly accepted  
 definitions.  The graviton and virtual photon are the messenger  
 particles of the gravitational and Coulomb forces respectively.  The  
 photon is a packet of electromagnetic energy, and thus carries  
 positive momentum and interacts with gravity.  The graviton is the  
 gravitational analog of the virtual photon.  They both can feasibly  
 exchange positive or negative momentum.  They are near field force  
 carriers.
   

Thank you for that. I knew something was missing in the photon -
electromagnetism relation, but didn't knew exactly what it was.
As I see it now: the photon is a packet (or a wave train as I called
it before), of electromagnetic energy, and the virtual photon is
electromagnetic energy itself(waves, not necessarily in discrete packets
or trains.)
So, electrons and protons propagate their electromagnetic imprint
through virtual photons, which are generic wave perturbations of the
electromagnetic tapestry, while photons are specific forms or
groupings of these perturbations. Produced when an electron changes
orbital, by example.
The quantum paradigm, with its particle wave duality, probably makes
virtual photons quantifiable also! but they shouldn't be in my opinion.
Not necessarily, at least. It should be enough to know that photons have
particle nature, due to its packet mode, while virtual photons are
the waves themselves.
The same with gravitons and graviphotons, then. Gravitons are the waves
which propagate the gravitational imprint, while graviphotons would be
(if they exist) packets or discrete wave trains of these waves, produced
under specific circumstances. Which can even coincide with the
production of photons, or not.

This is the kind of discussion I was expecting! Couldn't these gravitons
be a form of longitudinal wave instead of transversal, as I've proposed?
A longitudinal axis of movement is orthogonal to the transversal, so
that could be the imaginary number you mention in your theory.

And a longitudinal wave is the result of a pulsation, so a natural
similitude arises between an electromagnetic wave, which is produced by
a rotation, and a gravitational wave, which is produced by a
pulsation(which is no more than the projection of a fourth dimensional
rotation in 3d space).

Finally: The virtual nature of both of these waves can be explained by
imagining that they are somehow submersed into the propagation medium,
and only appear on the presence of another interacting particle, or
obstacle. In the same way as, say, waves in the ocean, which are almost
invisible on the surface of the high seas are made apparent when
approaching the shore. Or in the same way as the invisible light is made
visible when cast on a particular material object.

Mauro

 Now, there is an obvious hole in the definitions - the gravitational  
 analog to the photon.  This is the graviphoton. This was defined by  
 Barbieri and Cecotti in:

 http://www.springerlink.com/content/m5724623tt5ph28j/

 as an arbitrarily light vector boson which is coupled with typical  
 gravitational strength to matter hyper multiplets, possessing  
 unbroken guauge interactions as well!  Now that I find difficult to  
 follow!  However, their model does predict gravitational force  
 anomalies at close range, which you might find interesting and  
 similar to your own thoughts.

 In my own theory:

 http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FullGravimag.pdf

 I simply defined the graviphoton as the gravitational analog to the  
 photon.  Since the premise of my theory is that the laws of gravity  
 and electromagnetics are isomorphic, and I have defined the 1-1  
 correspondences that create the isomorphism, such a definition has a  
 very precise meaning in terms of formulations.

 In either definition, the graviphoton carries both energy and  
 positive momentum. It can exert a gravitational *push*. Because they  
 carry energy, and thus mass, neither the photon nor the graviphoton  
 can escape from a black hole.  Gravitons can escape from a black hole  
 else a black hole could not exert gravity 

Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Blanton

 It might be noted that, for pure Ni, the crystal structure is quite
 similar to Pd whose face is only 36 pm larger.

 Would it be your opinion then, that the A-Z alloy (84% Ni, 16% Pd) would
 have a slightly tighter internal cavity than pure palladium? That could be
 important, if true.

Literature indicates that the Pd segregates to the surface:

http://www.fzu.cz/activities/conferences/ecoss22/abstracts/17010.pdf

http://resources.metapress.com/pdf-preview.axd?code=w5182k06n5871187size=largest

which brings to mind one of Horace's writings on how deuterium enters
the lattice.  I'll have to search his site unless he jumps in here.

If Pd inducts the hydrogen into the cell and it propagates to the
internal Ni structure, confinement should increase significantly.
This would increase the fusion population.  Perhaps Pd funnels the
reactants into this geometry?

Terry



Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-25 Thread Nick Palmer
Just a thought: has anyone ever tried aiming neutrons from a Farnsworth 
Fusor at a loaded sample of nickel/H or palladium/D? I assume a Fusor could 
be tuned to emit neutrons of any kinetic energy one chose?


Fusion is regarded as so difficult because the temperature needed to 
overcome the Coulomb barrier is millions of degrees but in terms of electron 
volts it is no problem at all. It is trivial to achieve fusion in a Fusor. I 
just wondered if a guaranteed easy source of fusion neutrons may set off the 
LENR reaction.


Another thought: how about forming a nanoscale sponge out of ceramic 
piezolectric/triboelectric material, plating it with P or Ni, loading it up 
with D or H and then zapping the piezoelectric material with high 
frequency/high amplitude electric voltage. See what happens.


Nick Palmer

On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it

Blogspot - Sustainability and stuff according to Nick Palmer
http://nickpalmer.blogspot.com



Re: [Vo]:Mauro's Theory

2009-10-25 Thread Mauro Lacy
Hi Jack,

As you're probably aware, possibility to choose freely is fundamental to
our human nature. And with freedom to choose, with free will, it came
the possibility for error. Because a poor thing would be our freedom, if
we did not have the freedom to choose wrongly.
Unfortunately, there are many more ways to choose wrongly than to choose
rightly. But fortunately, in between all of them there exists also the
possibility of choosing rightly. When we do that we are reunited with
God, who only wishes us good choosing. And this time (if we had taken
the burden of choosing rightly under our own shoulders), we're reunited
with Him in full waking consciousness.

What Ray Tomes proposes is compatible with what I think. The only need
would be to find a standing wave formulation for what I prefer to think
and denominate as a vortical or circular movement. I assume that a kind
of circular, or better, spherical standing wave will do it.

I agree with your natural selection thoughts regarding theories; and
the restriction of experimentation is something I'm particularly aware
of :-)

Best regards,
Mauro

Taylor J. Smith wrote:

Hi Mauro,10-25-09

I just prefer particles; I don't believe in them.
Ray Tomes, owner of the Cycles Group, goes futher than
than what you suggest:  Ray proposes that matter, in any
form, is a standing wave,  I also like Dirac's epos, as
explained on Vortex by Don Hotson -- a plausible mechanism
for action-at-a-distace across the universe.

Theories should be judged by the design equations and
inventios they facillitate; natural selection will pick
the winners.  The downside of any theory is the restriction
of experimentation.

Jack Smith



Re: [Vo]:Rothwell has no opinion about theory

2009-10-25 Thread Horace Heffner


On Oct 25, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

This is also a preliminary response to Horace. I agree that the  
Galileo Project is a poor kit to offer, or whatever you wrote.  
However, it was designed for simplicity. Make it complicated, and  
replication becomes less likely.



Why would anyone go to the trouble to produce a poor kit to offer?   
BTW, those are not my words.


Production of a kit for amateurs using a procedure known to have  
major problems and that produces results that are not even convincing  
to the CF community is potentially harmful to the field.  Doing so  
for profit casts an even darker pall on the community, because the  
motives can be impugned.



I'm starting for my own testing with Galileo because I'm confident  
that I'll see results, not because the design is optimal. There are  
many aspects to the design that can safely be optimized, especially  
by adding external monitoring of various kinds. Cathode design is  
an obvious place to move to, but much monkeying with it in the  
initial tests gets increasingly risky with how complex the change  
is. What you have written, Horace, isn't wasted, it will be  
considered as final cathode design moves forward. Fabrication  
through plating had already been considered. (Why use a gold wire  
if a gold-plated silver wire, for example, would do?)


If nothing else I hope you keep the CR-39 or other detector out of  
the electrolyte.  That is known to cause problems.


It's been suggested that I study various topics. Great idea. When I  
have another lifetime to spare, I will. Seriously, every day I feel  
intensely the weight of my ignorance about, say, electrochemistry.  
Especially electrochemistry. As well, my knowledge about the  
behavior of various elements under alpha bombardment is severely  
limited. So many topics, so little time. So ... I punt. I depend on  
my friends and even on my enemies. They will point my bloopers out  
to me. In a way, I'm just a node in a network, my own intelligence  
is quite limited, the network's intelligence is not nearly as  
limited. If I don't listen to my friends, that's when I become  
truly stupid.



On Sep 29, 2009, at 6:08 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

Originally, I thought I'd be a nuclear physicist, and I was on my  
way, as an undergraduate student at Caltech. But my life took me to  
different places, so I never developed an investment in theory; I  
simply got an attitude and an approach from sitting with Feynmann  
-- who taught physics my first two years at Caltech, those lectures  
were the ones that became the standard text. I also had Linus  
Pauling for freshman chemistry, but he wasn't nearly as memorable.


On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

If the volume were large enough, we could buy one of those  
spectrometers. Or build one, it's not a difficult measurement, you  
need a Co-57 source, an accurate gamma detector, and a linear motor  
to drive the source toward or away from the test sample at a known  
velocity. I did this in sophomore physics lab at Caltech, that's  
why I recognized the significance of Vyosotskii's findings, I'm not  
sure that others get it.


Back in those days it was nearly impossible to find a physics major  
at Caltech with less than 140 IQ.


This exercise is beginning to look more like a social science  
experiment than a legitimate physics effort.


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/






RE: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 03:07 PM 10/25/2009, Jones Beene wrote:


Would it be your opinion then, that the A-Z alloy (84% Ni, 16% Pd) would
have a slightly tighter internal cavity than pure palladium? That could be
important, if true.


Arrgh, my kingdom for a knowledge of electrochemistry! Suppose I 
wanted to try codeposition with that alloy? Would I just put in that 
molar ratio of nickel chloride and palladium chloride?




Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 03:56 PM 10/25/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jones Beene referred to the Arata  Zhang material with 84% Ni, 16% 
Pd. I believe this is their most effective alloy yet. It is 
described in the ICCF-15 abstracts, p. 35, quoted in full:


PRODUCTION OF HELIUM AND ENERGY IN THE SOLID FUSION

Y. Arata, Y.C. Zhang, and X.F. Wang
Center for Advanced Science and Innovation, Osaka University
2-1 Yamadaoka, Suita, Osaka, 565-0871, Japan
Helium as an important evidence of solid-state fusion was detected 
by mass analyzer QMS. As result,  Solid Fusion has been 
confirmed by the helium existence, and then we developed the Helium 
production system


Cool. Arata, as you've explained many times, doesn't give a fig about 
what people think. So... he settles on a measure of the activity, 
then works on optimizing that, instead of trying to please the 
critics with more proof. If somebody thinks his helium measurements 
are screwy, that's not his problem. He's going to see how much helium 
he can make!


If he's getting optimal results with that mixture, the whole cost 
equation shifts. Now. Once Lomax Design Associates sweeps the world 
with its home Thermonuclear Nanodetonation kit, we will make the 
actual big bucks with Cold Fusion Handwarmers. Don't you think that 
would be great for the winter, here in New England? And the skeptics 
can go eff themselves, as they will if they tell the wife, No way 
that could be working, you've been fooled into thinking your hands 
are warm, it's purely wishful thinking, the Coulomb barrier can't 
possibly be bypassed, take it back.


Or not, I suppose. But why not start thinking about products that can 
be made, instead of products that might someday, maybe be made if 
there are technology breakthroughs? It doesn't have to be a big 
energy revolution. At first. Just make some hands warm, a few degrees 
inside a pocket might be  enough.




[Vo]:Kowalski, Beaty, Driscoll, Horton and Lohstreter poster

2009-10-25 Thread Horace Heffner
I see the experiment Bill Beaty participated in was reported by  
poster at ICCF15.  It would be nice see something more than an  
abstract.  Will something be published?


From ICCF Abstracts:

On electrolysis-induced emission of charged nuclear projectiles

On electrolysis-induced emission of charged nuclear projectiles
Ludwik Kowalski, William Beaty, Jeff Driscoll, Mike Horton and Pete  
Lohstreter


On electrolysis-induced emission of charged nuclear projectiles
Ludwik Kowalski, William Beaty, Jeff Driscoll, Mike Horton and Pete  
Lohstreter
According to Richard Oriani, production of nuclear projectiles due to  
electrolysis, using
his protocol (1), is highly reproducible. The Curie Project was  
organized to verify this
claim. The electrolyte is a solution of Li2SO4 in light water. The  
cathode is nickel and
the anode is platinum. Nuclear projectiles are detected with CR-39  
chips (2,3,4,5)
protected from the electrolyte by a thin Mylar film. The work is in  
progress. Preliminary
results confirm emission of nuclear projectiles, similar to alpha  
particles. But the effect

does not seem to be reproducible.


References:
1) R.A. Oriani “Reproducible Evidence for the Generation of a Nuclear  
Reaction During
Electrolysis,” Proceeding of the 14th Int. Conf. on Cold Fusion,  
October 2008,

Washington D.C. The report can be downloaded from
http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/368TGP_oriani.pdf
2) C. Brun et al., Radiat. Meas. 31, 89 (1999)
3) F.H. Seguin et al., Rev. Sci. Instrum. 74, 975 (2003)
4) D. Nikezic, K.N. Yu, Mat. Sci. Eng. R. 46, 51 (2004)
5) F.M.F. Ng et al., Nucl. Instrum. Meth. Phys. Res. B 263, 266 (2007)


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/






[Vo]:Sound imaging of NAE sites

2009-10-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I have seen only two digital oscillograms of the pressure waves from 
apparent NAE in the SPAWAR experiments, these were clear 
characteristic signals, a sharp spike followed by a relaxation. The 
frequency of occurrence of these spikes may be a few per second, and 
I'm guessing that they correspond to the heat flashes that the SPAWAR 
IR imaging shows.


If I set up not just one piezoelectric transducer, but four or six, 
it should be possible to locate the source of each shock. The entire 
cell is on the order of 20 microseconds wide at the speed of sound in 
water, so normally signals from the sensors that match within that 
window would be coming from a common event. It should be possible to 
filter the transducer signals and determine the relative arrival time 
of each signal, and, from that, with each pair of sensors, determine 
a coordinate of the source.


But it may not be necessary. If the sound is characteristic and not 
produced when nuclear activity doesn't occur, then one sensor is 
enough to do the basic job.




Re: [Vo]:Rothwell has no opinion about theory

2009-10-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 08:09 PM 10/25/2009, you wrote:


On Oct 25, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:


This is also a preliminary response to Horace. I agree that the
Galileo Project is a poor kit to offer, or whatever you wrote.
However, it was designed for simplicity. Make it complicated, and
replication becomes less likely.


Why would anyone go to the trouble to produce a poor kit to offer?
BTW, those are not my words.


Sigh. I believe I was clear that the quotation marks indicated not an 
exact quote, but a sense. What you actually wrote was but the 
Galileo protocol seems to me to be *NOT* a protocol appropriate for 
dissemination on a commercial basis.


My work will proceed in stages. In the first stage, I'm gathering 
materials for an expanded experiment following, more or less, the 
Galileo protocol. I've never done a codeposition experiment before, 
or anything like it since college, almost fifty years ago. I've got 
two forces to balance, one is I don't want to waste time with 
approaches that don't work, until I have an approach, in hand, 
tested, that I know works. So I'm quite wary of any changes to the 
basic Galileo protocol: the materials, the quantities, the cathode 
geometry, the current profile. On the other hand, there are obvious 
possible improvements, and I have different motives than the Galileo 
experimenters. For them, saving, say, $100 on materials for a cell, 
when they were putting a huge amount of effort in, would be trivial. 
For me, saving money on a cell, as long as it doesn't have a 
significant impact on results, is a big deal. But if I go too far in 
the first stage, as, for example, using a cheap stainless-steel wire 
that is plated with 24 K gold, instead of a pure gold wire, I might 
end up wasting weeks. I'll spend the money on the gold. To start. 
I'll also buy a little gold-plated wire for further development. The 
biggest expense in the experiment is not the palladium, it's the wire 
for the cathode and anode. The anode wire they recommend, platinum, 
is the most expensive. Is that necessary? How about gold, if nothing 
else? How about stainless steel, for that matter?


As the first stage progresses, I'll be buying materials. As it 
happens, buying just enough for one experiment is pretty expensive. 
So I'll buy more, and I will offer these materials for sale. Because 
of the volume purchase savings, I should be able to offer low 
quantities, buy what you need, for about what it would cost from the 
suppliers. (If I can get some volume going, it might become cheaper.) 
Basically, it's pretty much standard retail/wholesale. I now have 
LR-115 radiation detector sheets. For some purposes, better than 
CR-39. I also have a little Boron-10 neutron converter screen, enough 
that I can experiment with it and sell some. I have much more of both 
of these than I'll need for my own work, so, if anyone wants LR-115 
radiation detectors or 1x2 cm pieces of Boron-10 screen, I could sell 
them immediately. Be the first on your block!


There are only two down sides to LR-115: it's dark red, so if you 
want to be able to see through the detector, not so good, and I have 
no idea if it is stable in the electrolyte. If it is, whoopee! It's 
about one-quarter the cost of CR-39 intended for radiation detection. 
But commercial CR-39 is actually cheap. Problem is, if you don't know 
the history of it, how much radiation damage has it suffered from 
background? On the other hand, I do intend to buy some CR-39 sheets 
from Ebay and develop pieces. They are so cheap, compared to 
Fukuvi/Landauer CR-39, that I might as well try.


Second stage, I'll be varying the protocol; at this point it's no 
longer the Galileo protocol and it might vary considerably from it. I 
still want to keep it relatively simple. Unless, I suppose, some 
angel investor pops up, which I'm not expecting. Horace, this is a 
for-profit venture, because if it isn't, it won't happen. If you've 
got some donor lined up to support me to put together free kits, or, 
for that matter, to support someone else to do it, be my guest! 
During the second stage, kits will be available to beta testers. 
Unless I get that angel funding, these will also be kits that are 
sold. They are sold as exactly what they are: a very specific list of 
materials, a specific design, open information about what has been 
tested and what the results were, and with no guarantees except that 
all of this information is accurate. Your mileage may vary.


Third stage, the kits are sold to the general public, but, quite 
likely, they will be accompanied with disclaimers. Full disclosure. 
The results from my own work, and from all those who have used the 
beta kits, providing it is disclosed to me, will all be published. 
Whether the results were successful or not. These are science kits 
and, in fact, there are no experimental failures if the procedures 
are documented and the results are reported carefully enough.



Production of a kit for amateurs 

Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-25 Thread Horace Heffner


On Oct 25, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net  
wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton


It might be noted that, for pure Ni, the crystal structure is quite

similar to Pd whose face is only 36 pm larger.

Would it be your opinion then, that the A-Z alloy (84% Ni, 16% Pd)  
would
have a slightly tighter internal cavity than pure palladium?  
That could be

important, if true.


Literature indicates that the Pd segregates to the surface:

http://www.fzu.cz/activities/conferences/ecoss22/abstracts/17010.pdf

http://resources.metapress.com/pdf-preview.axd? 
code=w5182k06n5871187size=largest


which brings to mind one of Horace's writings on how deuterium enters
the lattice.  I'll have to search his site unless he jumps in here.

If Pd inducts the hydrogen into the cell and it propagates to the
internal Ni structure, confinement should increase significantly.
This would increase the fusion population.  Perhaps Pd funnels the
reactants into this geometry?

Terry


I am sorry to say my memory is just not very good so I'm not sure  
what you mean.


I did some basic lattice computations here:

http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/AtomicExpansion.pdf

Summarized here as compared to the Cubic Close Packed Structure using  
bond lengths provided from webelements.com (at your request if I  
recall correctly):


http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/CCP.pdf

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/