Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

2011-09-27 Thread Dr Josef Karthauser
On 23 Sep 2011, at 21:09, Jouni Valkonen wrote: 2011/9/23 Dr Josef Karthauser j...@tao.org.uk: There's no other evidence for anything other than a 3+1 dimensional universe. If this observation about neutrinos is true, then we do not have anymore even 3+1 dimensions, but only three

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

2011-09-27 Thread Dr Josef Karthauser
On 23 Sep 2011, at 21:09, Jouni Valkonen wrote: 2011/9/23 Dr Josef Karthauser j...@tao.org.uk: There's no other evidence for anything other than a 3+1 dimensional universe. If this observation about neutrinos is true, then we do not have anymore even 3+1 dimensions, but only three

[Vo]:INFORMAVOREs SUNDAY i.e, TUESDAY No 474

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Gluck
My dear friends, This time i am publishing my newsletter http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/09/informavores-sunday-no-474.html with a pardonable delay of 48 hours. I was 4 days in Italy- in the land of TM-LENR the things are going well, in the good direction but have to be accelerated. Mass

[Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again

2011-09-27 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, It looks like the official Defkalion Green Technologies discussion forum has been opened again for public posting: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/ What this exactly means, it's still unknown to me. I thought they wouldn't have had anything to do with Rossi and e-Cat

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again

2011-09-27 Thread Daniel Rocha
I recall that they said they would show their products on September. 2011/9/27 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com Hello group, It looks like the official Defkalion Green Technologies discussion forum has been opened again for public posting:

Re: [Vo]:CERN clocks subatomic particles traveling faster than light

2011-09-27 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/9/27 Dr Josef Karthauser j...@tao.org.uk: On 23 Sep 2011, at 21:09, Jouni Valkonen wrote: 2011/9/23 Dr Josef Karthauser j...@tao.org.uk: There's no other evidence for anything other than a 3+1 dimensional universe. If this observation about neutrinos is true, then we do not have

Aw: [Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again

2011-09-27 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 27.09.2011 12:12 Betreff: [Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again Hello group, It looks like the official Defkalion Green Technologies discussion forum has

Re: [Vo]:Will Robots Steal Your Job?

2011-09-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:03 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: What would they consume Videos? Hard Metal Pornography? food? Health insurance? Nickel and hydrogen. ;-) T

Re: [Vo]:Will Robots Steal Your Job?

2011-09-27 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/9/27 OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net: Harry sez: Robots will never earn any income. Are you sure a robot could never be designed and programmed to earn an income? Not if we eventually create sentience as sophisticated as someone like Data, from Star Trek

Re: [Vo]:Will Robots Steal Your Job?

2011-09-27 Thread Craig Haynie
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 04:50 +0300, Jouni Valkonen wrote: In pure and ideal basic income economy, all tax revenues are returned to the markets boosting purchasing power of consumers, therefore economic burden of taxes is zero and no one has no economic reasons to oppose taxes. —Jouni

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again

2011-09-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: What this exactly means, it's still unknown to me. I thought they wouldn't have had anything to do with Rossi and e-Cat based products anymore for the time being. Rossi said that, but Defkalion never agreed. They do not acknowledge a rift:

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again

2011-09-27 Thread Susan Gipp
Jed, in your opinion, how can DT go ahead with their scheduled plans if Rossi never gave to them the e-cat technology (the secret sauce ?) Somebody is not telling the truth. Which one ? Rossi, DT, half and half, both ? The latter is the worst case if the whole e-cat technology is a bluff.

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVOREs SUNDAY i.e, TUESDAY No 474

2011-09-27 Thread Michele Comitini
Dear Peter, in the land of TM-LENR the things are going well, in the good direction but have to be accelerated. You cannot just leave us like that. Now you must tell more! ;-) Mass tourism is more a kind of moneytheistic ritual and a good opportunity to state that you are are old and

Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVOREs SUNDAY i.e, TUESDAY No 474

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Gluck
Thanks, dear Michele, Surely I will tell soon, the essence is that my friend is working very hard and really professionally, based on the scientific principles, as I wrote in two papers at this blog. If you have specific questions, please write me directly to peter.gl...@gmail.com- in English or

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again

2011-09-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Susan Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote: Jed, in your opinion, how can DT go ahead with their scheduled plans if Rossi never gave to them the e-cat technology (the secret sauce ?) Defkalion says Rossi gave them all information about the technology long ago, and they are capable of making all

Re: [Vo]:Will Robots Steal Your Job?

2011-09-27 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/9/27 Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com: You don't have a consistent moral theory. Therefore you throw morality out of the window - in the name of morality - so that you can build 'your' perfect society. But it's not perfect, because if it were, then there would be no reason to

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again

2011-09-27 Thread Rich Murray
SNAFU ... ?

[Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter

2011-09-27 Thread Horace Heffner
A simple inexpensive continuously operating steam/water calorimeter can be obtained using a combined barrel and flow calorimetry. A water container, a barrel, or perhaps a trash can which is silicone sealed for leaks, can be used to condense steam via a submerged copper coil, preferably

Re: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Gluck
The simplest solution is to use a *Steam Water mixing* *valve*,in which the heated mixture coming out from the demo is mixed with a constant flow of cold water, you can know the enthalpy performance in any moment. Peter On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.netwrote:

Re: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter

2011-09-27 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/9/27 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: The simplest solution is to use a Steam Water mixing valve,in which the heated mixture coming out from the demo is mixed with a constant flow of cold water, you can know the enthalpy performance in any moment. Indeed, continuous experiments easiest

Re: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter

2011-09-27 Thread Joe Catania
It might be nice to know the metal mass and temps as well. - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net To: Vortex-L vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter A simple inexpensive continuously

Re: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Jouni, I have described this method long ago, for individual e-Cats e.g. here: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/05/call-for-perfect-e-cat-experiment.html See please: http://www.onlineconversion.com/mixing_water.htm I have asked Rossii to use this method but he has ignored it with

[Vo]:It's the Big One

2011-09-27 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2042428/Earth-cross-hairs-huge-solar-storm-caused-sunspot-1302.html A sunspot, 62,000 miles across - so big it would dwarf the Earth - is releasing gigantic solar flares that could in theory wreak havoc with electrical communications ranging from

[Vo]:Another cold fusion generator?

2011-09-27 Thread MJ
http://keshefoundation.com/home.html http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2t=229 Mark Jordan

Re: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter

2011-09-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 27, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: Dear Jouni, I have described this method long ago, for individual e-Cats A key part of this idea is the reliability obtained by the averaging performed by the large thermal mass of the water container. I am suggesting a hybrid design, a

Re: [Vo]:Another cold fusion generator?

2011-09-27 Thread Terry Blanton
Keshe is quite, er, eclectic! T On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:37 PM, MJ feli...@gmail.com wrote:    http://keshefoundation.com/home.html    http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2t=229    Mark Jordan

Re: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter

2011-09-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: 2011/9/27 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com: The simplest solution is to use a Steam Water mixing valve,in which the heated mixture coming out from the demo is mixed with a constant flow of cold water, you can know the enthalpy

Re: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter

2011-09-27 Thread Jouni Valkonen
First I would add to my previous message, that I think that Peter's method is more accurate than measuring pressure. That is because in order to find out correlation between pressure and enthalpy we need to do very careful calibration. In short run high accuracy may be difficult to archieve, but

Re: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Horace, The missing variable is cooling water flow- to be established by Rossi- water that carries the excess heat generated by the 52 (?) Fat Cats and is partially transformed in steam- F1. The flow of mixing water- condensing the steam is say, 5-10 times greater than F1 see please the

Re: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter

2011-09-27 Thread Peter Gluck
We have to measure HEAT OUT (enthalpy) and this is the unique relevant variable, steam, water, pressure, dryness, even F1 (this HAS to be measured anyway) are not relevant. When I speak about steam water mixing it is because I have used the method many times many years ago. But I bet that Rossi