[Vo]:The Future of LENR

2012-04-30 Thread Peter Gluck
My dear Friends, In case that VORTEX has resurrected, is alive and focused on essential problems. perhaps we could discuss about* The Future of LENR* My writing: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2012/04/lenr-and-destiny.html more serious than it seems and my Metaphor story of LENR an image of a

Re: [Vo]:vortex-L alive again

2012-04-30 Thread William Beaty
Rest of the story: apparently it was a bug turned up by long-overdue updating of internal security on eskimo.com. Group permissions of certain smartlist directories (including vortex) were accidently changed. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J.

[Vo]:Pirelli - Nickel Supplier- Hongwu Nanometer

2012-04-30 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L, Not sure if this message made it..during the lists down time, but Passi 22 had the Pirelli Nickel supplier listed as Hongwu Nanometer. Respectfully,, Ron Kita, Chiralex

[Vo]:Questions for Brillouin

2012-04-30 Thread James Bowery
In Brillouin Energy's updated hypothesis titled The Quantum Reaction Hypothesis http://www.brillouinenergy.com/IE82.html, on page 22, they state: *The distance between the lattice nuclei and the migrating hydrogen atoms make the probability of combining with another hydrogen much higher than

[Vo]:International Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Symposium, ILENRS-12

2012-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
International Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Symposium, ILENRS-12 The College of William and Mary, Sadler Center, Williamsburg, Virginia July 1-3, 2012 http://www.cvent.com/events/international-low-energy-nuclear-reactions-symposium-ilenrs-12/event-summary-2afdc5aee9fe479ca69ff752477cbd25.aspx

[Vo]:Flash from the past

2012-04-30 Thread Jones Beene
Are we back up again? If you haven't noticed yet, the Pirelli school kids essentially have reinvented this patented device (Eccles, Davies) from a decade ago (tungsten + potassium carbonate): http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/06/04/british_researchers_invent_t hermal_energy_cell.htm

Re: [Vo]:Flash from the past

2012-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
It would be interesting to see the effect on efficiency by coating the surface of the cathode with nanopowder. T

RE: [Vo]:Pirelli - Nickel Supplier- Hongwu Nanometer

2012-04-30 Thread Jones Beene
Ron, They claimed to be using tungsten initially - which Hongwu does sell - as well as nickel. Is there any indication now that they are using both? From: Ron Kita Greetings Vortex-L, Not sure if this message made it..during the lists down time, but Passi 22

Re: [Vo]:Pirelli - Hmmmmm Supplier-; TNickel Supplier- Hongwu Nanometer

2012-04-30 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Joneswill find the Passi...merely saw the suppliers name. Ronk On 4/30/12, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Ron, They claimed to be using tungsten initially - which Hongwu does sell - as well as nickel. Is there any indication now that they are using both?

[Vo]:Last Day of April ... where are the Defkalion test reports?

2012-04-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Just wondering. (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat -- and the defkalion hyperion -- Hi, google!)

Re: [Vo]:The Future of LENR

2012-04-30 Thread pagnucco
Hello Peter, Thanks for posting your thoughts on LENR - hopefully your optimism will be proven soon. Since you have studied surface phenomena extensively, I would like your opinion on an alternative theory. Some cavitation researchers (see refs below) speculate that plasma streams from

Re: [Vo]:The Future of LENR

2012-04-30 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Lou, I think we should not mix the issues, bubbles need some liquid and the most promisng systems Piantelii, Rossi, DGT are gas phase. And so are many other nanometric powder systems from Arata to Ahern and so on. Cavitation a la Stringham, Griggs, Potapov, INTERENERGORESURS continued via

Re: [Vo]:The Future of LENR

2012-04-30 Thread Axil Axil
During cavitation bubble collapse, very high temperatures and pressures are generated for the shortest instant. In that brief instant, it may well be that whatever is going on inside the gas phase of Pianteli, Rossi, and DGT cold fusion process is also going on inside the micro sized plasma volume

Re: [Vo]:Last Day of April ... where are the Defkalion test reports?

2012-04-30 Thread David Roberson
I am waiting too Alan. Does anyone have information concerning who is planning to make these reports and when? Dave -Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 2:31 pm Subject: [Vo]:Last Day of April ... where are

Re: [Vo]:Last Day of April ... where are the Defkalion test reports?

2012-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Tests have been performed. The people doing them would prefer to keep everything quiet for a while longer, for good reasons.

RE: [Vo]:The Future of LENR

2012-04-30 Thread Jones Beene
Peter's comment (bubbles need some liquid) raises an interesting point - the SCF - or supercritical fluid. This is a virtual fluid, and since it is a phase change - should be subject to some kind of cavitation-like effects. For instance, a useful SCF in industry - CO2 - is routinely used for

Re: [Vo]:Last Day of April ... where are the Defkalion test reports?

2012-04-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jed: Tests have been performed. The people doing them would prefer to keep everything quiet for a while longer, for good reasons. I suppose if I were in their shoes I'd want to keep a lid on a lot of of this stuff as well. Considering how much bad press combined with rampant speculation,

Re: [Vo]:Last Day of April ... where are the Defkalion test reports?

2012-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Nevertheless, Jed, I haf'ta ask you: What good reasons might that be? Sorry, I can't discuss it. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Last Day of April ... where are the Defkalion test reports?

2012-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:35 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Nevertheless, Jed, I haf'ta ask you: What good reasons might that be? I can think of one: Not ready for prime time. :-) T

Re: [Vo]:Last Day of April ... where are the Defkalion test reports?

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
Wasn't the prototype that would debut on the summer? 2012/4/30 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com On 2012-05-01 00:00, Terry Blanton wrote: I can think of one: Not ready for prime time. :-) This conflicts with others' confidence (which I have little reason to doubt) that DGT

[Vo]:Second batch of papers uploaded

2012-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I uploaded the second batch of papers from the Navy: Fleischmann, M., et al., *Experimental Evidence of Nuclear Reactions Generated in a Polarized Pd/D Lattice*. 2012, LENR-CANR.org. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Fleischmanexperiment.pdf This one has some shorter tales of woe. Look for the word

Re: [Vo]:Second batch of papers uploaded

2012-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
As always, the list of most recent uploads is here: http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1097 I am going to change this to display faster. It is populating all 882 items. The papers that I revised slightly from Szpak pop back up to the top of the list. I uploaded them years ago. I replaced

Re: [Vo]:Last Day of April ... where are the Defkalion test reports?

2012-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-05-01 00:00, Terry Blanton wrote: I can think of one:  Not ready for prime time.  :-) This conflicts with others' confidence (which I have little reason to doubt) that DGT will debut on the market this

Re: [Vo]:International Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Symposium, ILENRS-12

2012-04-30 Thread fznidarsic
I see it costs $450 to attend. I sent them and add for my book. It will cost them $8. Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:International Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Symposium, ILENRS-12

2012-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
$450?! That's too much. Maybe it is cheaper without the tour of Williamsburg. I recall they charge an arm and a leg for that. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:The Future of LENR

2012-04-30 Thread pagnucco
This could be the case also. It seems that most reported LENR surface phenomena result when intense local currents are generated either locally by superfocusing of e-m energy by nanostructures, or, maybe by these plasma jets from collapsing bubbles, by electron arcs/beams, or by current filaments

Re: [Vo]:The Future of LENR

2012-04-30 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:10 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Nanospire report that the isotopes generated are short-lived. Assuming their measurements are accurate, why should this be? Short-lived isotopes are generally a signature of hydrogen or deuterium fusion, neutron capture or