Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

thanks for the data. anyway the results are much less replicated in volume than PdD electrolysis. However in Cold fusion, based on the huge LENr evidence with PdD, we should maybe stop treating LENR as fringe science, doubting of any even reputed scientist results... there are many claimed result

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

*We don't know whether NiH results are actually LENR, because we don't know what the ash is and therefore we don't know what the reaction is.* Abd ul-Rahman Lomax and Jed Rothwell be advised that Defkalion has provided us with a comprehensive list of ash products that resulted from the long term o

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

Just propose the admin a bet : "If you are so sure that LENR is false, bet your "administrative Tenure" on tha fact that LENR is false... If it became true, you are fired. In exchange I remove my edit. If I'm proved wrong, with I'm fired or if you can safely fear that LENR is true, just accept t

Re: [Vo]:An interesting video from PESN - LENR related

At 08:09 PM 9/14/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: Problem is, the "massive amounts of energy" haven't been confirmed, if by "massive" we mean "commercial level," which is the implication. I do not see that implication. T

Re: [Vo]:An interesting video from PESN - LENR related

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > Problem is, the "massive amounts of energy" haven't been confirmed, if by > "massive" we mean "commercial level," which is the implication. I do not see that implication. To me, "massive amounts of energy" refers to energy normalized to the mass of starting materia

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

At 05:33 PM 9/14/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 04:18 PM 9/14/2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Well, very funny, Jed. However, Mr. Fletcher is essentially clueless as to what would be acceptable as a source for Wikipedia. I looked about and didn't see where he was "threatened with arbitration

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

At 03:33 PM 9/14/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I remember now why I gave up in December last year. But I thought it was my turn to put in a shift or two at the coalface (or whatever). I'm now getting my feet wet in Cold Fusion ... let's see how quick THEY are. (Some of the players are the same)

Re: [Vo]:An interesting video from PESN - LENR related

At 10:53 AM 9/13/2012, Akira Shirakawa wrote: See http://QuantumHeat.org for updates on the Celani cold fusion replication kit project Nicolas is spearheading. One of the reasons that this whole affair has dragged out so long is that both sides are crazy. The physics community is crazy becau

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

At 04:18 PM 9/14/2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Well, very funny, Jed. However, Mr. Fletcher is essentially clueless as to what would be acceptable as a source for Wikipedia. I looked about and didn't see where he was "threatened with arbitration," which is weird. The last thing that the cabal

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

At 04:48 PM 9/13/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote: Thanks to AK for the correct link (which I'd already fixed on the wiki -- though even my comments in talk have been "collapsed" -- and I'm being threatened with arbitration.) 'Dat's how i

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > > http://www.wired.co.uk/news/**archive/2012-09/14/cold-fusion >> > > With friends like this, who needs enemies? > > . . . 1. NiH reactions are not scientifically established. The article > does distinguis

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

At 12:26 PM 9/14/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Cold fusion: smoke and mirrors, or raising a head of steam? http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-09/14/cold-fusion With friends like this, who needs enemies? The article does, at least, pay some attention to developments, but: 1. NiH reacti

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

Alan J Fletcher wrote: > > I warned them in Talk that there was a wired article : 17:52 > Edited the lede : 18:18 > Deleted : 18:20 > > 2 minutes!!! > That's hysterical. I suppose Wikipedia has some kind of alert system to tell people a document has been changed, so it is not lik

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

I do hope someone like the esteemed Mr. Lomax is documenting this Wiki editing behavior. I think a book discussing the pros & cons of the Wikipedia philosophy would make for a fascinating educational analysis. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article / Wiki

At 12:47 PM 9/14/2012, James Bowery wrote: 2 minutes: I've got to learn to scroll before I post. btw The Lede currently ends with an extended quoted from Ugo Bardi (From March) Professor Ugo Bardi of the University of Florence, noting contradictory claims made by Rossi regarding the emission or

Re: [Vo]:New Miley Patent

I will ask David French what he thinks about this patent. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

>From James: >> Just out of curiosity, how long did it take them to delete this? They stay >> on their toes! > > 2 minutes: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Energy_Catalyzer&oldid=512455124 Wow! That's just amazing! What dedication! CSICOP should take notes. Regards Steven Vincent

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

At 12:31 PM 9/14/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Like I sez, you got no business in Wikipedia. I mean, what? -- are you asking to be collapsed and arbitrated? Just out of curiosity, how long did it take them to delete this? They stay on their toes! I warned them in Talk that there was a wired articl

Re: [Vo]:New Miley Patent

It is all about the way it is written, a patent examination based on LENR application alone might or might have been rejected, but by including it in a list alongside more mainstream applications, and concentrating on material processing side they have found a way to get it through without as much

Re: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope

>From Lorenheyer: ... > Then, and only then, will THEY *know,* > (w/o question) once and for all, that our God is all truly powerfull and all > knowing, and/or has no equal. THEIR so-called religion, prophets, and/or god > will then be All Ah or All Uh, "Up In Th

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Alan J Fletcher wrote: > >> >> I put a summary up on the wiki. I doubt that it will survive editing. >>> >> >> Deleted already. >> > Just out of curiosity, how long did it take them to delete this? They stay > on their toes! > 2 minutes: h

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

Alan J Fletcher wrote: > > I put a summary up on the wiki. I doubt that it will survive editing. >> > > Deleted already. > Like I sez, you got no business in Wikipedia. I mean, what? -- are you * asking* to be collapsed and arbitrated? Just out of curiosity, how long did it take them to delete

Re: [Vo]:Sims

Good read Terry, IMO, these are exactly the kind of observations a contemporary more technically acceptable religion will incorporate into the core of it's philosophy. Strange as this might sound, a lot of these observations appear to be compatible with Buddhist and Zen related philosophies - i.e.

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

At 11:22 AM 9/14/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-09/14/cold-fusion I put a summary up on the wiki. I doubt that it will survive editing. Deleted already.

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

At 10:33 AM 9/14/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-09/14/cold-fusion I've only skimmed it. I put a summary up on the wiki. I doubt that it will survive editing.

Re: [Vo]:Sims

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > so why isn't the experiment and quantum mechanics just another part of > simulation? Too much positive feedback. T

Re: [Vo]:Sims

so why isn't the experiment and quantum mechanics just another part of simulation? harry On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Interesting article: > > http://www.vice.com/read/whoa-dude-are-we-inside-a-computer-right-now-329-v19n9 > > excerpt: > > "The other interesting t

[Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

At 10:26 AM 9/14/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-09/14/cold-fusion I've only skimmed it. Lots of Krivit ps : Steven Vincent Johnson already had it up. but it wasn't (still isn't) showing on the web archive.

[Vo]:New Wired UK article

Cold fusion: smoke and mirrors, or raising a head of steam? http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-09/14/cold-fusion I've only skimmed it. (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat -- and the defkalion hyperion -- Hi, google!)

RE: [Vo]:Open Source Papp Update

Thanks Brad, A deluxe popper, indeed ! Even if the open-source part is in doubt, the need for a miracle is not. It will be interesting to see the energy balance, in the end. I hope that Russ will strive to provide that, even if a rough estimate. Otherwise this device may linger in the collective

Re: [Vo]:Website on LENR Fuel Preparation

Mr. Basgall has responded to the questions below with the following : RobL: I dont’ know for sure that the gold or the triangle shaped wire would make any difference at all in the LENR reactions. After read

Re: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope

Here is my official well-learned opinion about the means or mode of Technology that we (modern-day mankind) are using to interpret or decipher the world around us, and especially when it comes to pictures or images & so-called videos It's really only insufficient, inadequate, confusing, inva

[Vo]:Sims

Interesting article: http://www.vice.com/read/whoa-dude-are-we-inside-a-computer-right-now-329-v19n9 excerpt: "The other interesting thing is that the natural world behaves exactly the same way as the environment of Grand Theft Auto IV. In the game, you can explore Liberty City seamlessly in

Re: [Vo]:Bianchini's Test

Indeed, I was misreading it. the 378 - 758 kwh of energy is energy density. That's per kilogram of fuel. However, it appears that the total energy used was 8.3 kwh and the output was between 2.4 kw and 3.66 kw for the 6.5 hour period, which would mean that the output energy was between 15.55 kwh &

[Vo]:Bianchini's Test

Have I been asleep? I did a search on my archive here, but couldn't find any mention of Bianchini's test, performed in July. http://www.scribd.com/doc/105322688/Penon4-1 In it, he describes a 6 hour test of the hot cat, which delivered between 378 - 758 kwh of energy from 8.3 kwh of input electri

[Vo]:Open Source Papp Update

Hi Vortex, Some updates on Papp development.. Which most of you know is a noble gas that is charged (by RF/spark) and drives a piston with an unexplained (?) force. Harvesting the force and residual energy to produce overunity power remains to be seen. http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:P

Re: [Vo]:FYI: too many taus for Standard Model...

S.R. Hadden: First rule in government spending: why build one when you can have two at twice the price?

Re: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp superconductivity

I think QuantumRabbit is a major researcher into changing carbon into iron. Ron Kita On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:38 PM, David Roberson wrote: > What would happen if you took a bundle of moderate length carbon nanotubes > that are suspected of being capable of superconducting and place these > with

Re: [Vo]:FYI: too many taus for Standard Model...

Why not wishing the money coming from somewhere else where the spent money is hundred times bigger for the same amount time, like, saying, from defense? 2012/9/14 MarkI-ZeroPoint > Daniel asks: > > “Anyway, why is big science bad?” > > ** ** > > Had the hundreds of billions of dollars sp

RE: [Vo]:FYI: too many taus for Standard Model...

Daniel asks: "Anyway, why is big science bad?" Had the hundreds of billions of dollars spend on hot fusion and massive particle colliders been put into material science, nanotech, graphene, alternative fuels, etc., we would probably be much closer to sustainable clean energy by now. Putting a

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

Thanks for this answer! Very informative! On a side note: The shutdownrossi.com site has been deleted. I of course don't know why, perhaps it has been hacked... ;) Wolf Wolf Fischer mailto:wolffisc...@gmx.de>> wrote: Out of curiosity: Has there ever been a scam in which a safety cer