Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-17 Thread David Roberson
Eric, I am running 3 amps of DC through my system. The sparks occur when the electrolyte is getting low, deposits are collecting on both nickels, and the supply voltage is varying a lot. I would guess that I am getting a couple of amps per square cm due to the deposits covering nickel area

[Vo]:Hydrogen - Nickel Ion Studies (Non Metallic Reactants)

2012-10-17 Thread integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
A new twist, Mates, http://experimental.site11.com/ http://ipdiscover.com/pipermail/newcandle_ipdiscover.com/2012-October/002123.html http://ipdiscover.com/pipermail/newcandle_ipdiscover.com/2012-October/002098.html

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetically speaking ...

2012-10-17 Thread David Roberson
I agree with you that a demonstration that lasts for a couple of months would be great and maybe one day we will observe it. Rossi stated in earlier posts that his ECAT would self destruct if the temperature reached beyond a certain point. According to his journal entries it would melt and

Re: [Vo]:Cracks me up

2012-10-17 Thread Teslaalset
Confusion On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: When I read vortex, Google is constantly trying to sell me a Ford Fusion. If only ... ;-)

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-17 Thread Teslaalset
Dave, can you take some pictures and post? On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:26 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Eric, I am running 3 amps of DC through my system. The sparks occur when the electrolyte is getting low, deposits are collecting on both nickels, and the supply voltage is

Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized

2012-10-17 Thread Harry Veeder
you didn't address my question about income being a fair measure of hard work. The question does not imply that I think everyone should have the same income no matter what they do. harry On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: So, let me get this straight. So,

Re: [Vo]:Popular Science article Andrea Rossi's Black Box

2012-10-17 Thread Alain Sepeda
as far as I've read, the system changent recently in Italy, to match others, so it might be misintepreted today. Dottore Magistrale seems to be the title of Master Degree, and the tittle of PhD students. It seems as far as I've found, that in filosofia refer really to philosophy study in Milan,

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetically speaking ...

2012-10-17 Thread Alain Sepeda
I don't understand and why so many people are suprised that to gain energy yo need to feed a little (less). It is classic for usual energy that you give energy first to settle the good condition of energy production. It is the case for wood in a barbecue... you need first to pyrolyze it, then

Re: [Vo]:Patent Appl

2012-10-17 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-17 10:22, Peter Gluck wrote: FYI: Prof. Francesco Piantelli's US Patent Application is here: http://images3.freshpatents.com/pdf/US20110249783A1.pdf I've already seen this before. Look: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/PiantelliSmethodforp.pdf Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Patent Appl

2012-10-17 Thread Peter Gluck
Yes, it is identical with WO 2010/058288. Piantelli's 3rd WO patent had to be come public on Oct 12, 2012. For the time given it cannot be found. Peter On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: On 2012-10-17 10:22, Peter Gluck wrote: FYI: Prof. Francesco

RE: [Vo]:Cracks me up

2012-10-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Confusion When I read vortex, Google is constantly trying to sell me a Ford Fusion. If only ... ;-) There is also this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConFusion_%28convention%29 It's a nice little convention. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Sci. Am. comments on documentary The Believers

2012-10-17 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:33 PM 10/15/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: See:

[Vo]:First power plant to Marcellus Shale approved

2012-10-17 Thread fznidarsic
I don't believe that things will bode will for coal in the short term. http://gantdaily.com/2012/10/11/dep-approves-first-new-power-plant-to-use-marcellus-shale-gas-in-pa/

re [Vo]:Graphene-based 3D sponge-like material is useful for supercapacitors

2012-10-17 Thread fznidarsic
I hope this ultra capacitor works. I recently looked into powering my bicycle. 1. 2 cycle 50 cc engine. $120. Cheep! The two cycle engine has a limited speed rage in which it delivers power. It tried one of these. It either goes fast 10 to 15 MPH or does not go at all. 2. 4

RE: [Vo]:Hypothetically speaking ...

2012-10-17 Thread Jones Beene
From: David Roberson If the ECAT device constitutes a positive feedback system then it exhibits certain characteristics during operation. One feature is that there likely will be a critical temperature at which the internally generated heat exactly matches the heat that is

Re: [Vo]:Sci. Am. comments on documentary The Believers

2012-10-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Jed, right now the strongest way to pass on the message that cold fusion is real is not to point to a pile of thousands of papers. My purpose is not to make the case that cold fusion is real. My purpose is to bring people with technical

Re: [Vo]:Sci. Am. comments on documentary The Believers

2012-10-17 Thread Alain Sepeda
Right. I painfully have to admit that. just now. 8( my recent human science experiments confirm your claims. hard to swallow. Especially when you see all the stupidities that are mainstream. 2012/10/17 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com My purpose is not to make the case that cold fusion is

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-17 Thread David Roberson
It would be nearly impossible to catch the spark in the act with single frame photography since the duration is so short. I am confident that anyone could get similar results if they use sodium carbonate along with a supply like I am using. All they need do is dissolve plenty of the carbonate

[Vo]:[OT] Is Steve Jobs in Hell?

2012-10-17 Thread Terry Blanton
http://blastr.com/2012/10/what-did-psychic-medium-d.php A medium reaches out to Jobs. Excerpt: The most loaded question of all has to be Is Steve Jobs in hell? And while the respectful answer that delves into how a spirit has to struggle with who they were in order to find out where they go

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetically speaking ...

2012-10-17 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand and why so many people are suprised that to gain energy yo need to feed a little (less). It is classic for usual energy that you give energy first to settle the good condition of energy production.

Re: [Vo]:Meteorite in NW Louisiana

2012-10-17 Thread LORENHEYER
Just to clarify a Meteorite is more-or-less a piece, chunk, and/or remnant of debris that has traveling around in space possibly since the early cataclysmic formation of this solar system, or even from another one... and, how would you know? So now, because It Came From

[Vo]:Planet discovered at Alpha Cantauri B

2012-10-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
They're finding planets everywhere! See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/lava-world-orbits-nearby-star/2012/10/16/cc75de44-17db-11e2-a55c-39408fbe6a4b_story.html

RE: [Vo]:[OT] Is Steve Jobs in Hell?

2012-10-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
http://blastr.com/2012/10/what-did-psychic-medium-d.php The psychic did seem to have put together a plausible psychological profile on SJ. Who really knows! Nevertheless, it was fun to watch. Thanks, Terry. :-) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

[Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
One more bizarre thing from me in a string of bizarre events since the advent of gremlins... I am not sure, but appears to me that the circles in the attached photos might be showing us Cold Fusion. Maybe they were created by drunken englishmen, maybe not. Their scale and magnitude is immense

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Is Steve Jobs in Hell?

2012-10-17 Thread LORENHEYER
You know of course that as individually naturally impaired human beings, we tend to have alot of difficulty getting our information even somewhat accurate, so, I wouldn't be too quick to think that a human being might be in hell, just because this planet earth happens to be the 3rd world from

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread Vorl Bek
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:21:06 -0400 ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure, but appears to me that the circles in the attached photos might be showing us Cold Fusion. Maybe they were created by drunken englishmen, maybe not. They were probably created by drunken physicists.

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
I am waiting to hear from one of them... On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:21:06 -0400 ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure, but appears to me that the circles in the attached photos might be showing us Cold

Re: [Vo]:Hypothetically speaking ...

2012-10-17 Thread David Roberson
Jones Beene: David, I like you analysis, but has anyone seen evidence of meltdown? After all, AR has claimed to have built hundreds of reactors in the last few years. Given Rossi's flair for the dramatic, my guess is that he would proudly show-off a picture of a meltdown, if he had it. You may

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread David Roberson
Anyone seen pictures of crop circles that are seriously messed up? There must be many attempts that go badly wrong if drunk Englishmen are responsible for most of them. Where would we find out about the duds? Dave -Original Message- From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com To:

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Anyone seen pictures of crop circles that are seriously messed up? There must be many attempts that go badly wrong if drunk Englishmen are responsible for most of them. Where would we find out about the duds? Interesting point! I have never heard of

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
OK, maybe unemployed physicists are creating them. In engineering and construction I can never get a contractor to make a circle as smooth and concentric on a job site as I see in crop circles and many sinkholes. Funny thing is, most of the stalks are not broken, they appear to be irradiated,

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread Craig Haynie
I don't like to bring up fringe interests like this, but I saw this video a couple of days ago, and find it totally fascinating. Whoever made these crop circles are surely brilliant. I can't imagine who would do this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkykJisYiVI Craig

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
Craig, I have never paid attention to crop circles before but had watched that video. I can't see people making these in one night. The hatching is very intricate and circles very precise. The other strange thing is that many of the circles appear to match my model of dark matter in a decaying

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle How to Make a Crop Circle http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
Axil, Those are the kind that are trampled and broken, not the irradiated ones I am talking about, but thanks for the information. Stewart http://darkmattersalot.com On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle How to Make a

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
Good video from 2008 http://youtu.be/xxY98buBw2o Stewart http://Darkmattersalot.com On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:24 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Axil, Those are the kind that are trampled and broken, not the irradiated ones I am talking about, but thanks for the information.

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
I don't know about the 2nd message, but the 1st was certainly done by people associated to the radio telescope nearby and it probably took days to do. It's just that they took days to call people and pretend they appeared there in 1 night. 2012/10/17 Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com I

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
Wow, you sound certain On Wednesday, October 17, 2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: I don't know about the 2nd message, but the 1st was certainly done by people associated to the radio telescope nearby and it probably took days to do. It's just that they took days to call people and pretend they

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
Well, many of those guys grew up or got hook up on astronomy when reading and watching Carl Sagan. stuff. Then, they saw a crop circle right beside their workplace, so... 2012/10/17 ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com Wow, you sound certain On Wednesday, October 17, 2012, Daniel Rocha wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
I guess the nuclear physicists made the ones by the nuke plant then. Thanks for clearing that up... On Wednesday, October 17, 2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: Well, many of those guys grew up or got hook up on astronomy when reading and watching Carl Sagan. stuff. Then, they saw a crop circle right

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
It could be aliens in both cases, but I guess we will never know... 2012/10/17 ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com I guess the nuclear physicists made the ones by the nuke plant then. Thanks for clearing that up... -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Is Steve Jobs in Hell?

2012-10-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
lorenhe...@aol.com wrote: Praise Obama!... as only he can save us from this horrible evil (or, he's directly involved in it, if not totallyI really have to wonder, especially considering where this man (?) is from). Okay, if you're gunna break the rules, I get a round as well. I just

Re: [Vo]:Everything I Needed to Know about Cold Fusion was in a......Crop Circle?

2012-10-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
Sometimes knowing is just realizing and accepting the evidence, sorta like cold fusion. On Wednesday, October 17, 2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: It could be aliens in both cases, but I guess we will never know... 2012/10/17 ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',

Re: [Vo]:Planet discovered at Alpha Cantauri B

2012-10-17 Thread Patrick Ellul
that is so close to us, astronomically speaking! On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: They're finding planets everywhere! See:

Re: [Vo]:Popular Science article Andrea Rossi's Black Box

2012-10-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://pesn.com/2012/10/16/9602208_Andrea-Rossis_Black-Box--by_Popular-Science/ With thumbnails of the article and a few comments (Not a hit piece, but with inaccuracies).

Re: [Vo]:Popular Science article Andrea Rossi's Black Box

2012-10-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: http://pesn.com/2012/10/16/**9602208_Andrea-Rossis_Black-** Box--by_Popular-Science/http://pesn.com/2012/10/16/9602208_Andrea-Rossis_Black-Box--by_Popular-Science/ I think that is a fair review. I agree for the most part. There were some minor

Re: [Vo]:Planet discovered at Alpha Cantauri B

2012-10-17 Thread David Roberson
It always amazes me to view depictions of galaxies such as the Milky way where the stars appear so close to each other that many merge into one bright point. For some reason I can not imagine that the distances between these individual stars is measured in light years. If you find yourself

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-17 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
It's possible that as the electrolyte evaporates, and there is not sufficient electrolyte to make a fully-immersed path from anode to cathode (you'll have to confirm that), there are moments when the liquid withdraws from point(s) on one of the electrodes - because of the tendency of water to form

[Vo]:How long?

2012-10-17 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
Eventually, Mr. Rossi will have to show something that can be independently examined and verified completely outside of his control, or the inevitable media and marketplace counter-reaction will set in because of the very public nature of the claims. I'm sure even Mr. Rossi himself would agree

RE: [Vo]:How long?

2012-10-17 Thread Craig Brown
My sentiments exactly. It's nearly the two year anniversary of the first Bologna demonstration and still there is zero in the way of third-party verification of the power claims. Original Message Subject: [Vo]:How long? From: Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com Date: Thu, October

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-17 Thread David Roberson
The flashes of light that emit a puff of smoke may be occurring somewhat like you describe. The fact that they are located only in the vicinity of the negative supply connected nickel suggests that hydrogen is also a factor or perhaps the emission of electrons from that electrode is

Re: [Vo]:How long?

2012-10-17 Thread David Roberson
Who knows Jeff? So far it has worked in his favor as he is still developing his products while most of the world stands by. I think he has gained a year on the competition by his techniques and I just hope that the time will soon arrive when he reveals the actual facts. Dave

Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-17 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
It's a great description. I forgot about the fact that the H2 would still be evolving at the cathode and the sparks would likely ignite it. Combine that with the deposits formed by the electrolysis and a wide variety of results are possible. We'll try with sodium carbonate sometime soon.