Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread francis
Axil, I think the paper AFM measurements by Chen Peng re catalytic action occurring at openings and defects in nanotubes supports your focus on patterned surface since each time the pattern repeats you are creating catalytic action over and over again in a confined area. Stiction forces being

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: In either case, the deuteron does not move. The energy goes into the electron that is ejected well away from the atom. When it returns, a 20 keV photon is

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:06 PM, Chuck Sites wrote: Hi Ed. Again sorry for the delayed response and right now all I can give is a quick response. Kim's theory is interesting as it's been refined more and more towards effects at the nano-scale and he's also incorporating proton

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaser The Spaser The negatively charged quasiparticle called a Plasmons is being produced on the nano-surfaced micro-particles used in both the Rossi and DGT reactors. First, surface plasmons are bosons: they are vector excitations and have spin 1, just as photons

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
*What is free electron gas density on surface of lattice? ... are we talking free electrons from metal bonding of lattice material or free electrons from disassociated hydrogen gas? I know plasmons are sometimes refered to as a mirrored effect so you can see why I am unsure if you are talking

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/nov/24/bosons-bossed-into-bose-einstein-condensate *Bosons bossed into Bose–Einstein condensate* This article that described the formation process of a photon condensate can inform us of how the Plasmons Bose-Einstein condensate could form. First,

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I predict that the H-Ni reaction is not the source of energy being claimed by Rossi et al. Any theory that attempts to justify the H-Ni reaction as the source of claimed energy is open to test because, if I'm right, such a theory is useless because

[Vo]:New Lattice Energy Posting on Li-Battery Failures

2013-02-12 Thread pagnucco
Lattice Energy has recently posted a new item entitled - Microscopic Dendrites Focus in Boeing Dreamliner Probe - Wall Street Journal, Feb 11, 2013 The Li-battery industry is projected to be $50 billion annually by 2020 -- possibly more if the price of gasoline continues escalating. This may be

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: As for my theory, I find that most people do not understand what I'm actually describing. They superimpose their own ideas with great confidence rather than understand what I describe even though I try to be very

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
The papers were posted to vortex and to an e-mail by Jed just a few minutes ago. Ed On Feb 12, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: As for my theory, I find that most people do not understand what I'm

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, It sounds like a pretty good theory but I think you still need a bootstrap mechanism to initiate the oscillations responsible for LENR reaction. Plasmons are just waves on the surface of an electron medium rather than the flow of said electrons and as such aren’t an energy source nor is

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Dr. Storms: A short hand approach has to be used because neither one of us has the time to explain everything in detail. ***Can you please clarify whether you are using some kind of shorthand approach on the Nanocavities thread? Because formation of BECs using lasers to COOL the environment

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
It is not oscillations that cause the coulomb barrier to weaken, but the accumulation of coherent negative electric charge that is responsible. Materials with a “negative dielectric constant” are expected to provide an attraction between similar charges and unusual scattering to electromagnetic

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
The problem is that apparently we are not talking about the same thing or even using the same concepts. I'm taking about cold fusion and you are talking about BEC. You are making all kinds of assumptions based on theory while I'm trying to describe what is present in the real world. I

Fwd: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
Kevin, having given this more thought, if you want to apply the BEC concept to the hydroton that I propose is the active structure in LENR, I'm listening. We all agree that a method must be found to release mass-energy without producing energetic particles or energetic radiation. To do

[Vo]:Re: AGEFI Geneva: Chauvin/LENR-Cars presented. Funded by the founder of Logitech

2013-02-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
Hi, another article is published in a (French speaking) Mainstream newspaper in switzerland: Le Temps http://www.letemps.ch/Page/Uuid/9a0dfe3e-7477-11e2-943f-94c4d8973bed#.URlJJmc-Erh you have to register to read it. beside a description of N Chauvin and his partnership , there is clear

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
We all agree that a method must be found to release mass-energy without producing energetic particles or energetic radiation. To do this, the D nuclei must form a relationship within a structure (cluster) that is unique. Transactions of Fusion Technology, Vol. 26, Number 4T, Part 2, December

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I know how lasers can be used to cool. That is not how lasers are used when they are applied to cold fusion. ***Incorrect. KP Sinha said directly that lasers were used to cool in his LENR experiment theory.

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
So, you accept reality as Sinha describes it. That simplifies out discussion because now we only need to learn from Sinha. Ed On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: I know how lasers can be used to cool. That is not how lasers are used when they are applied to cold fusion.

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Kevin, having given this more thought, if you want to apply the BEC concept to the hydroton that I propose is the active structure in LENR, I'm listening. We all agree that a method must be found to release

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
So, you accept reality as Sinha describes it. That simplifies out discussion because now we only need to learn from Sinha. So, as usual, the place to start is Jed's website: Excess Heat Triggering by 532 nm Laser in a D/Pd Gas Loading System http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/TianJexcessheatb.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread David Roberson
I have a question about the laser cooling and what magic it performs as related to the BEC. If you are considering the cooling as being a necessary factor that must be present before the BEC can form, then there is a natural process occurring that performs a similar function. Whenever too D's

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
The irradiation of a palladium lattice with coherent green light can produce Plasmons which can form a BEC at room temperature because of the interaction of electrons on the surface of the lattice with coherent radiation of laser light.The Plasmons will produce a high negative electric charge on

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:01 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I have a question about the laser cooling and what magic it performs as related to the BEC. If you are considering the cooling as being a necessary factor that must be present before the BEC can form, ***Well, yes,

[Vo]:Ed Storms explanation of LENR

2013-02-12 Thread Harry Veeder
The papers in vortex-l hard to find so I went to the lenr-canr.org library and found them. An Explanation of Low-energy Nuclear Reactions (Cold Fusion) - 2012 http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEanexplanat.pdf An Approach to Explaining Cold Fusion - 2012

[Vo]:Tech Predictions

2013-02-12 Thread Mark Gibbs
http://www.polratings.com/predictions Currently they're all IT predictions but anyone care to predict what will happen in CF in 2013? If you have an insight, fire away: http://www.polratings.com/predictions/prediction-submission/ [mg]

Re: [Vo]:Ed Storms explanation of LENR

2013-02-12 Thread Harry Veeder
BTW, I posted the first link as well as a link to JCMNS in a facebook group for people interested in the neutron scattering research in Canada and around the world. Harry On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: The papers in vortex-l hard to find so I went to

Re: [Vo]:Tech Predictions

2013-02-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
The IT predictions are interesting! I have sworn off trying to predict the future of cold fusion because it determined by politics, not technology. If it was technology we could spot a trend or extrapolate from what has happened. But the progress of cold fusion -- or likely lack of progress --

Re: [Vo]:Re: AGEFI Geneva: Chauvin/LENR-Cars presented. Funded by the founder of Logitech

2013-02-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Feedback from someone on Free Republic who met Chauvin: I met Chauvin at the E-Cat conference in Zurich last September. I didn’t know he worked for Logitech, but there seems to be some confusion here: he’s not the Logitech founder, he’s just a former employee. The founder may be putting some

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: There is no alpha. The helium CAN NOT MOVE spontaneously. The helium contains extra energy as mass. This mass must be converted to energy before it can appear as reaction energy. The He is fixed in space. Normally the He