http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/02/22/0219216/nasas-basement-nuclear-reactor
I guess we can expect many inquisitive minds will start looking around for
more information on this topic.
could actually keep secret a project that was on the order of a few tens
of billions of dollars -- but there are reasons to believe this level of
secrecy is within the capability of the military.
Right, your theory is locked within secret government documents. Mine is
open to falsify, with some
Hello,
As far as I know because of the low heat production ( 25-50W for 5 km nickle
tubing as an kathode) and the saftely risk of developing this boilersystem (it
can explode) thermacore shifted the interest to heatpipe cooling systems for
computers.
Peter v Noorden
- Original Message
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All vorticians are encouraged to invest.
An email will soon arrive from Barrister Wumi Keppe, instructing you where
to send your generous funds (cash only).
Cough... cough... maybe it's not P.C. to sound a bit
As I previously commented I'm trying to set up a system for quickly testing
various materials, simulations etc in a dry gas cell.
Dr Storms seems pretty confident that whatever LENR is happening in Ni-H
systems
emits detectable radiation ... IE something easily detected with a
sensitive
see
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=2cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CDcQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Flibrary%2F2004%2F2004Focardi-EvidenceOfElectromagneticRadiation.pdfei=Xp8nUZnbG-aJ0QGivICADwusg=AFQjCNHu3w5dimV_JIaouNutOQePoXu2Pgsig2=wKKTan2la6pfDqQbEQiXqg
On
Dear Paul,
Do you know:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2011/08/piantelli-taxonomy_15.html ?
Piantelli is the discoverer and developer, and long runner (solitary) of
the NiH system. The tests
were made at the Sienna Univ. the anlytical part at the Bologna u, (Sergio
Focardi et al)
Peter
On
The science, technology and even economics are all published in AIAA peer
reviewed journals in papers whose arithmetic has withstood the test of
decades. Limited by intellectual property rights, they are now openly
advertised in the prospectus for Planetary Resources.
What I'm talking about
Thanks for the references... there is so much info to absorb in this space..
As I suspected Piantelli is seeing heat, OR he is seeing radiation,
they do not seem to be corelated. IE gammas are not a good stand in for
heat production...
Paul
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Peter Gluck
I periodically have to start over with this discussion because the
response provided by Abd becomes so long and complex that making clear
conclusions are no longer possible. In addition, a clearer
understanding results from these discussions and this needs to be
examined without the
Paul, you need to be careful how you describe correlation. A nuclear
reaction must produce radiation in some form. This is the only way
energy of the required magnitude can be released from a nuclear
process. The only issue is how much of this radiation can be detected
outside of the
Actually I have 300 pages of homework and research on my blog, I just did
not submit it to you. I am actually beginning to like your theory though,
unfortunately the evidence is locked deep within the government vaults
along with other evidenced files such as:
The government killed Kennedy
Oh now this is highly amusing.
In response to my request for a single URL to an internet government
conspiracy theory that was more plausible than my theory of a classified
military program based on widely acknowledged science, technology and
economics, ChemE provided a link to a Popular Science
Wow, I guess I proved your theory and my homework is done!
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh now this is highly amusing.
In response to my request for a single URL to an internet government
conspiracy theory that was more plausible than my theory of
Thanks Ed for this quick compilation of the facts to consider. It is helpful
to focus upon the observations that drive any new theories.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
To: cmns c...@googlegroups.com; vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Paul Breed wrote:
How strong is the evidence for excess enthalphy and radiation emissions
being correlated in Ni-H systems?
There is plenty of evidence that Ni-H thermal gain in most cases, produces
no measureable radiation. That does not necessarily mean that it is not
nuclear.
Actually, no, my theory is still that the mass for the kinetic energy
weapon we saw over Russia was of non-terrestrial origin and this is
consistent with Pike's claim that launch costs for God's Rods are too
high.
The economics of space-based civil engineering and industrialization, such
as solar
A nuclear reaction must produce radiation in some form.
I think this reasoning is how LENR ended up as a fringe science...
IE P+F could not possibly have seen that much heat or they would be dead
from radiation, therefore they are lying...
I agree that in some situations LENR systems make
The message is simply this: We have sufficient control of the asteroid's
little brother that you might be wise to consider the possibility that we
have control of the asteroid.
I would like our governments first to get a handle on identifying, tracking
and redirecting/destroying them before they
I would question assumption #5
5. The process does not require applied energy to be initiated
With start up times measured in days...I don't think you can say that, ie a
random cosmic ray,
or stray energy from anywhere. could kick it off
I would also question the complete rejection of
Before I comment, I should caution that I am only an EE and not a trained
nuclear physicist or chemist. It is only natural for me to try to
understand behavior in more familiar, EE terms.
I would not like to offer an explanation so much as a mental
rationalization that I have constructed to help
On Feb 22, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Paul Breed wrote:
A nuclear reaction must produce radiation in some form.
I think this reasoning is how LENR ended up as a fringe science...
IE P+F could not possibly have seen that much heat or they would be
dead from radiation, therefore they are lying...
Do you think that a random comic ray would start a process at one
single site in a material that causes steady release of watts of
power? Cosmic rays do not even initiate chemical reactions. For
example TNT is completely stable in spite of being bombarded
continuously. Of course,
Not for sure, if you look for my other two papers
tr Piantelli on my Blog,you will see he has wiorked underfounded, his lab
was moved more times,
do it is possible he had no means to measure heat, radiation and
transmutations for all tests.
More important, many if not all transition metals can be
What I am trying to get Ed among others to recognize is that high energy
radiation from nuclear activity can be significantly downshifted in
frequency by the same sub wave length nano-structures that produce the
nuclear reactions in the first place.
Furthermore, the WL argument that energetic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footfall
Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with
precise targeting, try The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein.
In 1983, Heinlein and I actually came to logger heads, in person, over Gen
Graham's abuse of the non-terrestrial materials concepts by O'Neill and
Vajk. He
*Piantelli seems to be one of the main promoters of the radiation claim.*
Piantelli sometimes sees EMF because of the way he produces his reaction,
His nano-structures are not topologically ideal to downshift the EMF to a
lower energy profile.
Since this downshifting of high energy EMF can be
I'm not saying that external energy is required, only that setting that as
a unconditional unquestioned principal upon which one is going to
accept or reject theories seems weak, especially because we know that in
some cases the addition of energy accelerates the process.
If one accepts Defklions
Program and Abstract Book --
Nuclear Emerging Technologies for Space
(NETS-2013) February 25-28, 2013
Albuquerque, New Mexico
Sponsored by
The American Nuclear Society
(Aerospace Nuclear Science and Technology Division and Trinity Section)
(PROGRAM p.17 of 48)
Monday, February 25 --
I have been considering the behavior of hydrogen that is captured by a nickel
matrix to obtain a better understanding of the system. It seems highly likely
that an individual proton would not be freely floating around within an NAE
type region. The electric field of this particle would
Terry, thanks for clearing it up. Whatever was steering that last
meteoroid was a very bad driver.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with
precise targeting, try The Moon is a Harsh
I forgot to include the link -
www.new.ans.org/meetings/file/372
Program and Abstract Book --
Nuclear Emerging Technologies for Space
(NETS-2013) February 25-28, 2013
Albuquerque, New Mexico
Sponsored by
The American Nuclear Society
(Aerospace Nuclear Science and Technology Division
So is it your thesis that the russian meteor was a fragment blown off
the larger meteor?
Harry
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with
precise targeting, try The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
*Suppose the NAE is a resonance of some kind*
* *
*A very high Q perfect resonant structure of exactly the right size will
start or run with just minor thermal excitation...*
* *
*and be maintained by the coupling from the effect it creates.*
Look into the Fano resonance of electrons in
Paul, we have to start somewhere with some assumptions. ALL theories
are based on assumptions, some less plausible than others. These are
the assumptions I start with. They are plausible and allow the options
for a model to be reduced to useful numbers.
On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Paul
Radiation is the ONLY way an active material can be quickly identified.
This tool has been ignored. I'm trying to get you and other people to use
it
Understood, the system I'm building will have at least one GM tube of equal
or better sensitivity to the LND7313 you used in your experiment
Your interpretation of what I've written renders me speechless.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
So is it your thesis that the russian meteor was a fragment blown off
the larger meteor?
Harry
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with
precise targeting, try The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein.
Yeah, but they didn't call it the foot. :-)
=
I have been considering the behavior of hydrogen that is captured by a
nickel matrix to obtain a better understanding of the system. It seems
highly likely that an individual proton would not be freely floating around
within an NAE type region. The electric
Paul, I have seen no credible demonstration that the Curie temperature
plays any role. This idea is mostly based on various arbitrary
models. In the nickel case, the effect becomes visible at higher
temperatures simply because the rate increases with temperature. The
effect can only be
Before I get into talking about the delightful coincidence of February 15,
2013 between the close Earth flyby of an asteroid and the largest meteor
entry to Earth's atmosphere in over a century -- both at mutually
independent vectors -- I want to talk a little about another delightful
coincidence:
*Radiation is the ONLY way an active material can be quickly identified.
This tool has been ignored. I'm trying to get you and other people to use it
*
I suggest that you might look for an increase of thermoelectric current
produced by the reaction.
Rossi has said he has seen this increase in
Did you guys invent the Internet too? Terry, I like your theory better.
On Friday, February 22, 2013, James Bowery wrote:
Before I get into talking about the delightful coincidence of February 15,
2013 between the close Earth flyby of an asteroid and the largest meteor
entry to Earth's
The fusion process has a beginning and an ending. It is not continuous.
Once the He forms, the reaction must stop until the He leaves the site and
more D takes its place.
Has anyone melted a working cathode to see if it contains any trapped He?
We all believe LENR is a surface effect, but its
I think a much more plausible theory is that one of those 3 large inbound
comets have pulled in asteroids with them
On Friday, February 22, 2013, ChemE Stewart wrote:
Did you guys invent the Internet too? Terry, I like your theory better.
On Friday, February 22, 2013, James Bowery wrote:
First of all,
***How long did it take for you to generate a 4 point list rather than
answer a simple 40k foot inductive question?
your question was not about my theory.
***It sure as hell was. It points to one theory being more consistent
with the evidence than the other. The BEC theory
The measured velocity vectors are inconsistent with that theory.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:29 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I think a much more plausible theory is that one of those 3 large inbound
comets have pulled in asteroids with them
On Friday, February 22, 2013, ChemE
It should be noted that the most common nuclear reaction in the Universe,
by far – which is the reversible fusion of two protons into Helium-2 – such
as happens with unimaginable frequency on most stars including our sun - is
thought to produce no radiation. However, this reaction may produce
Dr Storms current theory argues that for D+D -4He the system must emit the
energy in small enough doses that
the radiation can't penetrate far enough to be detected
***Sounds like new physics to me. Is there any evidence that this
lower-level emission takes place elsewhere besides in LENR
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:19 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Did you guys invent the Internet too? Terry, I like your theory better.
I don't recall God's Rods. I think that would have been a bit too
irreverent for the Potus. However, there were those brilliant
pebbles.
You pose an interesting question. Perhaps the fresh helium leads to an
increase in the number of NAE that form due to its interaction with the metal.
Who knows?
I have long wondered if evidence exists for a limited chain reaction of some
sort since some of the earlier surface pictures
We all believe LENR is a surface effect, but its possible that its a bulk
effect, that only works once then is dependent on giving He a way to escape
to the surface?
***It is possible it's a bulk effect but the evidence is only seen at the
surface. Like a landslide pushing a hundred trees into a
This example is presented to you to support the point that nanowires can
concert [convert?] gamma-rays directly into heat is properly configured.
***All kinds of things convert light to heat, such as your skin when you
go out into the sunshine. But aren't gamma rays far more energetic than
basic
On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:19 PM, David Roberson wrote:
You pose an interesting question. Perhaps the fresh helium leads to
an increase in the number of NAE that form due to its interaction
with the metal. Who knows?
If enough helium forms, this will certainly be true. However, this
I understand how an iron meteorite can burn in the atmosphere and create
sonic booms and break into pieces. I would like to see the model energy
balance that shows me how that translates to a 500 kton blast from a 10kton
rock while it is still in the air and has not given up its kinetic energy.
Gamma Rays: Frequency Range: 1020 - 1024 Hz Wavelength Range: 10exp(-12) m
10 exp(-12) meters = 61.4421235 microns
The nano structure must be less than the wavelength of the radiation,
A BIG peice of nano-material is at or under 100 nanometers. This is less
than 61 microns so a nano-structure
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:19 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Did you guys invent the Internet too? Terry, I like your theory better.
I don't recall God's Rods. I think that would have been a bit too
The question of whether or not this is a bulk effect can be addressed by using
a very thin plating of active material. If the reaction is similar with the
thin film that you get with a larger bulk, or perhaps even a thicker plating,
then it is surface related. I assume that there is adequate
I could imagine that some form of precursor event is required before
another can be initiated. The concentration of electrons on the surface
of the nano-material must reach a critical level before the reaction is
productive. Rossi uses thermoelectric material to get this surface electron
Yes Dave, thin layers of Pd have been studied and found to produce
energy. In addition, the behavior of helium and tritium show that they
are made very near the surface and not in the bulk. These issues have
been well discussed.
Ed
On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:43 PM, David Roberson wrote:
The
*New Findings from Rice University in the Area of Nanotechnology Published*
*October 1st, 2012*
2012 OCT 1 (VerticalNews) -- By a News Reporter-Staff News Editor at
Nanotechnology Weekly -- Investigators discuss new findings in
Nanotechnology. According to news originating from Houston, Texas,
The question of whether or not this is a bulk effect can be addressed by
using a very thin plating of active material. If the reaction is similar
with the thin film that you get with a larger bulk, or perhaps even a
thicker plating, then it is surface related. I assume that there is
adequate
From what I can read in these figures, the electric field enhancemnt ranges
to 300 fold
http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121024/srep00764/full/srep00764.html#/f4
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
*New Findings from Rice University in the Area of
From: Kevin O'Malley
It should be noted that the most common nuclear reaction in the Universe, by
far - which is the reversible fusion of two protons into Helium-2 - such as
happens with unimaginable frequency on most stars including our sun - is
thought to produce no radiation.
Ed, When Szpak observed the flashes was it possible for him to determine the
magnitude of the source of energy? I realize that he saw individual flashes,
but how powerful was each one? Is it possible to prove that each flash was at
a level consistent with the energy released by just one
I would guess that the magnitude of the shock wave is what is being compared.
The air gets compressed ahead of the meteor since it can not move out of the
way. This builds up to a very powerful blast.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l
On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:26 PM, David Roberson wrote:
Ed, When Szpak observed the flashes was it possible for him to
determine the magnitude of the source of energy? I realize that he
saw individual flashes, but how powerful was each one? Is it
possible to prove that each flash was at a
I think Pons Fleishmann had their meltdown on a relatively very thick
piece of Palladium. It was the thickest piece they had experimented on, 1
cubic centimeter IIRC. I know that's only one datapoint, but there could
be others if we look for them.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM, David
Sorry, I've only been skimming the posts in the thread. In the back of
my mind I've been wondering how the two space rocks
could be related even though they were headed in almost in opposite
directions. Your talk of spacebased kinetic energy weapons got me
thinkingIf a space rock fragments
A BIG peice of nano-material is at or under 100 nanometers. This is less
than 61 microns so a nano-structure that small can convert a gamma ray to
heat because it is less than the far wavelenth of the radiation.
***Much of current semiconductor research is well under 100 nm. Why
haven't they seen
Ed, I suspect that you did not follow my description of the heat involvement of
the reaction. Unless the temperature is irrelevant at each finite location
then what I was suggesting should be a major factor. Any heat energy that is
emitted within a small volume will cause an immediate
Check your dimensions. Gamma rays are on the order of the size of a nucleus.
You appear off by many orders of magnitude.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 22, 2013 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nanowire
Well Dave, your description might affect local regions. If the
concentration of NAE is too high, a runaway effect might occur locally
and cause local melting, which would kill the effect at that location.
Nevertheless, the heat is not created only at the site of the
reaction. The reaction
I guess a lot depends upon information that is difficult to obtain. I assumed
that your process emitted photons of many types, but figured they could not be
too energetic or else we would have detected them outside of the material since
the surface is where they originate. This implies that
It is accepted in mainstream physics. This technology has just begun
development. Because the field is new, there the number of applications is
few. He engineers have not taken full advantage of the basic scientific
research.
If we can pack large numbers of electrons into a confined space, each
Sorry, my bad
Axil
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:51 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Check your dimensions. Gamma rays are on the order of the size of a
nucleus. You appear off by many orders of magnitude.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Kevin O'Malley
Under my theory of LENR it may be possible to setup a single nuclear active
site for observation and measure what goes on inside that volume in detail.
The experiment involves setting up a quantum dot with a 600 electron
storage capacity constructed in a way to enclose the electron ensemble in
Corrected…
It is accepted in mainstream physics. This technology has just begun
development. Because the field is new, the number of applications is few.
The engineers have not taken full advantage of this type of basic
scientific research.
If we can pack large numbers of electrons into a
Axil, I am trying to understand how your model is able to contain the large
number of electrons without dispersion. It seems that the force repelling the
electrons would force them to expand outward through any walls. How do you
envision them being contained?
Dave
-Original
See for an example of fermion confinement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dot
Plexcitons are different. They are bosons. It is an electron and a hole and
where the hole is in the nickel wall of the cavity and the electron is in
the empty space of the cavity. These electrons are held in
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