[Vo]: Slashdot story about NASA basement reactor

2013-02-22 Thread Moab Moab
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/02/22/0219216/nasas-basement-nuclear-reactor I guess we can expect many inquisitive minds will start looking around for more information on this topic.

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread ChemE Stewart
could actually keep secret a project that was on the order of a few tens of billions of dollars -- but there are reasons to believe this level of secrecy is within the capability of the military. Right, your theory is locked within secret government documents. Mine is open to falsify, with some

Re: [Vo]:Violante and others are trying the engineering approach

2013-02-22 Thread P.J van Noorden
Hello, As far as I know because of the low heat production ( 25-50W for 5 km nickle tubing as an kathode) and the saftely risk of developing this boilersystem (it can explode) thermacore shifted the interest to heatpipe cooling systems for computers. Peter v Noorden - Original Message

[Vo]:Never mind the stench

2013-02-22 Thread Jones Beene
http://inhabitat.com/four-african-teens-create-pee-powered-energy-generator/ All vorticians are encouraged to invest. An email will soon arrive from Barrister Wumi Keppe, instructing you where to send your generous funds (cash only). Cough... cough... maybe it's not P.C. to sound a bit

[Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Breed
As I previously commented I'm trying to set up a system for quickly testing various materials, simulations etc in a dry gas cell. Dr Storms seems pretty confident that whatever LENR is happening in Ni-H systems emits detectable radiation ... IE something easily detected with a sensitive

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
see http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=2cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CDcQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Flibrary%2F2004%2F2004Focardi-EvidenceOfElectromagneticRadiation.pdfei=Xp8nUZnbG-aJ0QGivICADwusg=AFQjCNHu3w5dimV_JIaouNutOQePoXu2Pgsig2=wKKTan2la6pfDqQbEQiXqg On

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Paul, Do you know: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2011/08/piantelli-taxonomy_15.html ? Piantelli is the discoverer and developer, and long runner (solitary) of the NiH system. The tests were made at the Sienna Univ. the anlytical part at the Bologna u, (Sergio Focardi et al) Peter On

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread James Bowery
The science, technology and even economics are all published in AIAA peer reviewed journals in papers whose arithmetic has withstood the test of decades. Limited by intellectual property rights, they are now openly advertised in the prospectus for Planetary Resources. What I'm talking about

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Breed
Thanks for the references... there is so much info to absorb in this space.. As I suspected Piantelli is seeing heat, OR he is seeing radiation, they do not seem to be corelated. IE gammas are not a good stand in for heat production... Paul On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Peter Gluck

[Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Edmund Storms
I periodically have to start over with this discussion because the response provided by Abd becomes so long and complex that making clear conclusions are no longer possible. In addition, a clearer understanding results from these discussions and this needs to be examined without the

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Paul, you need to be careful how you describe correlation. A nuclear reaction must produce radiation in some form. This is the only way energy of the required magnitude can be released from a nuclear process. The only issue is how much of this radiation can be detected outside of the

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread ChemE Stewart
Actually I have 300 pages of homework and research on my blog, I just did not submit it to you. I am actually beginning to like your theory though, unfortunately the evidence is locked deep within the government vaults along with other evidenced files such as: The government killed Kennedy

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread James Bowery
Oh now this is highly amusing. In response to my request for a single URL to an internet government conspiracy theory that was more plausible than my theory of a classified military program based on widely acknowledged science, technology and economics, ChemE provided a link to a Popular Science

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread ChemE Stewart
Wow, I guess I proved your theory and my homework is done! On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Oh now this is highly amusing. In response to my request for a single URL to an internet government conspiracy theory that was more plausible than my theory of

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread David Roberson
Thanks Ed for this quick compilation of the facts to consider. It is helpful to focus upon the observations that drive any new theories. Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com To: cmns c...@googlegroups.com; vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms

RE: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Jones Beene
Paul Breed wrote: How strong is the evidence for excess enthalphy and radiation emissions being correlated in Ni-H systems? There is plenty of evidence that Ni-H thermal gain in most cases, produces no measureable radiation. That does not necessarily mean that it is not nuclear.

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread James Bowery
Actually, no, my theory is still that the mass for the kinetic energy weapon we saw over Russia was of non-terrestrial origin and this is consistent with Pike's claim that launch costs for God's Rods are too high. The economics of space-based civil engineering and industrialization, such as solar

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Breed
A nuclear reaction must produce radiation in some form. I think this reasoning is how LENR ended up as a fringe science... IE P+F could not possibly have seen that much heat or they would be dead from radiation, therefore they are lying... I agree that in some situations LENR systems make

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread ChemE Stewart
The message is simply this: We have sufficient control of the asteroid's little brother that you might be wise to consider the possibility that we have control of the asteroid. I would like our governments first to get a handle on identifying, tracking and redirecting/destroying them before they

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Breed
I would question assumption #5 5. The process does not require applied energy to be initiated With start up times measured in days...I don't think you can say that, ie a random cosmic ray, or stray energy from anywhere. could kick it off I would also question the complete rejection of

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Bob Higgins
Before I comment, I should caution that I am only an EE and not a trained nuclear physicist or chemist. It is only natural for me to try to understand behavior in more familiar, EE terms. I would not like to offer an explanation so much as a mental rationalization that I have constructed to help

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 22, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Paul Breed wrote: A nuclear reaction must produce radiation in some form. I think this reasoning is how LENR ended up as a fringe science... IE P+F could not possibly have seen that much heat or they would be dead from radiation, therefore they are lying...

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Do you think that a random comic ray would start a process at one single site in a material that causes steady release of watts of power? Cosmic rays do not even initiate chemical reactions. For example TNT is completely stable in spite of being bombarded continuously. Of course,

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Gluck
Not for sure, if you look for my other two papers tr Piantelli on my Blog,you will see he has wiorked underfounded, his lab was moved more times, do it is possible he had no means to measure heat, radiation and transmutations for all tests. More important, many if not all transition metals can be

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
What I am trying to get Ed among others to recognize is that high energy radiation from nuclear activity can be significantly downshifted in frequency by the same sub wave length nano-structures that produce the nuclear reactions in the first place. Furthermore, the WL argument that energetic

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread Terry Blanton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footfall

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread James Bowery
Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with precise targeting, try The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein. In 1983, Heinlein and I actually came to logger heads, in person, over Gen Graham's abuse of the non-terrestrial materials concepts by O'Neill and Vajk. He

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
*Piantelli seems to be one of the main promoters of the radiation claim.* Piantelli sometimes sees EMF because of the way he produces his reaction, His nano-structures are not topologically ideal to downshift the EMF to a lower energy profile. Since this downshifting of high energy EMF can be

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Breed
I'm not saying that external energy is required, only that setting that as a unconditional unquestioned principal upon which one is going to accept or reject theories seems weak, especially because we know that in some cases the addition of energy accelerates the process. If one accepts Defklions

[Vo]:ANS - NETS-2013 -- Some sessions of interest

2013-02-22 Thread pagnucco
Program and Abstract Book -- Nuclear Emerging Technologies for Space (NETS-2013) February 25-28, 2013 Albuquerque, New Mexico Sponsored by The American Nuclear Society (Aerospace Nuclear Science and Technology Division and Trinity Section) (PROGRAM p.17 of 48) Monday, February 25 --

[Vo]: Hydrogen State Within NEA

2013-02-22 Thread David Roberson
I have been considering the behavior of hydrogen that is captured by a nickel matrix to obtain a better understanding of the system. It seems highly likely that an individual proton would not be freely floating around within an NAE type region. The electric field of this particle would

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread ChemE Stewart
Terry, thanks for clearing it up. Whatever was steering that last meteoroid was a very bad driver. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with precise targeting, try The Moon is a Harsh

Re: [Vo]:ANS - NETS-2013 -- Some sessions of interest

2013-02-22 Thread pagnucco
I forgot to include the link - www.new.ans.org/meetings/file/372 Program and Abstract Book -- Nuclear Emerging Technologies for Space (NETS-2013) February 25-28, 2013 Albuquerque, New Mexico Sponsored by The American Nuclear Society (Aerospace Nuclear Science and Technology Division

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread Harry Veeder
So is it your thesis that the russian meteor was a fragment blown off the larger meteor? Harry On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with precise targeting, try The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
*Suppose the NAE is a resonance of some kind* * * *A very high Q perfect resonant structure of exactly the right size will start or run with just minor thermal excitation...* * * *and be maintained by the coupling from the effect it creates.* Look into the Fano resonance of electrons in

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Paul, we have to start somewhere with some assumptions. ALL theories are based on assumptions, some less plausible than others. These are the assumptions I start with. They are plausible and allow the options for a model to be reduced to useful numbers. On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Paul

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Breed
Radiation is the ONLY way an active material can be quickly identified. This tool has been ignored. I'm trying to get you and other people to use it Understood, the system I'm building will have at least one GM tube of equal or better sensitivity to the LND7313 you used in your experiment

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread James Bowery
Your interpretation of what I've written renders me speechless. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: So is it your thesis that the russian meteor was a fragment blown off the larger meteor? Harry On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with precise targeting, try The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein. Yeah, but they didn't call it the foot. :-)

Re: [Vo]: Hydrogen State Within NEA

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
= I have been considering the behavior of hydrogen that is captured by a nickel matrix to obtain a better understanding of the system. It seems highly likely that an individual proton would not be freely floating around within an NAE type region. The electric

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Paul, I have seen no credible demonstration that the Curie temperature plays any role. This idea is mostly based on various arbitrary models. In the nickel case, the effect becomes visible at higher temperatures simply because the rate increases with temperature. The effect can only be

[Vo]:The Kinetic Energy Weapon (Bluff?) Theory of February 15, 2013's Cosmic Coincidence

2013-02-22 Thread James Bowery
Before I get into talking about the delightful coincidence of February 15, 2013 between the close Earth flyby of an asteroid and the largest meteor entry to Earth's atmosphere in over a century -- both at mutually independent vectors -- I want to talk a little about another delightful coincidence:

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
*Radiation is the ONLY way an active material can be quickly identified. This tool has been ignored. I'm trying to get you and other people to use it * I suggest that you might look for an increase of thermoelectric current produced by the reaction. Rossi has said he has seen this increase in

Re: [Vo]:The Kinetic Energy Weapon (Bluff?) Theory of February 15, 2013's Cosmic Coincidence

2013-02-22 Thread ChemE Stewart
Did you guys invent the Internet too? Terry, I like your theory better. On Friday, February 22, 2013, James Bowery wrote: Before I get into talking about the delightful coincidence of February 15, 2013 between the close Earth flyby of an asteroid and the largest meteor entry to Earth's

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Breed
The fusion process has a beginning and an ending. It is not continuous. Once the He forms, the reaction must stop until the He leaves the site and more D takes its place. Has anyone melted a working cathode to see if it contains any trapped He? We all believe LENR is a surface effect, but its

Re: [Vo]:The Kinetic Energy Weapon (Bluff?) Theory of February 15, 2013's Cosmic Coincidence

2013-02-22 Thread ChemE Stewart
I think a much more plausible theory is that one of those 3 large inbound comets have pulled in asteroids with them On Friday, February 22, 2013, ChemE Stewart wrote: Did you guys invent the Internet too? Terry, I like your theory better. On Friday, February 22, 2013, James Bowery wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Re: explaining LENR - II

2013-02-22 Thread Kevin O'Malley
First of all, ***How long did it take for you to generate a 4 point list rather than answer a simple 40k foot inductive question? your question was not about my theory. ***It sure as hell was. It points to one theory being more consistent with the evidence than the other. The BEC theory

Re: [Vo]:The Kinetic Energy Weapon (Bluff?) Theory of February 15, 2013's Cosmic Coincidence

2013-02-22 Thread James Bowery
The measured velocity vectors are inconsistent with that theory. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:29 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I think a much more plausible theory is that one of those 3 large inbound comets have pulled in asteroids with them On Friday, February 22, 2013, ChemE

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Kevin O'Malley
It should be noted that the most common nuclear reaction in the Universe, by far – which is the reversible fusion of two protons into Helium-2 – such as happens with unimaginable frequency on most stars including our sun - is thought to produce no radiation. However, this reaction may produce

Re: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Dr Storms current theory argues that for D+D -4He the system must emit the energy in small enough doses that the radiation can't penetrate far enough to be detected ***Sounds like new physics to me. Is there any evidence that this lower-level emission takes place elsewhere besides in LENR

Re: [Vo]:The Kinetic Energy Weapon (Bluff?) Theory of February 15, 2013's Cosmic Coincidence

2013-02-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:19 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Did you guys invent the Internet too? Terry, I like your theory better. I don't recall God's Rods. I think that would have been a bit too irreverent for the Potus. However, there were those brilliant pebbles.

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread David Roberson
You pose an interesting question. Perhaps the fresh helium leads to an increase in the number of NAE that form due to its interaction with the metal. Who knows? I have long wondered if evidence exists for a limited chain reaction of some sort since some of the earlier surface pictures

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Kevin O'Malley
We all believe LENR is a surface effect, but its possible that its a bulk effect, that only works once then is dependent on giving He a way to escape to the surface? ***It is possible it's a bulk effect but the evidence is only seen at the surface. Like a landslide pushing a hundred trees into a

Re: [Vo]:Nanowire frequency conversion

2013-02-22 Thread Kevin O'Malley
This example is presented to you to support the point that nanowires can concert [convert?] gamma-rays directly into heat is properly configured. ***All kinds of things convert light to heat, such as your skin when you go out into the sunshine. But aren't gamma rays far more energetic than basic

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:19 PM, David Roberson wrote: You pose an interesting question. Perhaps the fresh helium leads to an increase in the number of NAE that form due to its interaction with the metal. Who knows? If enough helium forms, this will certainly be true. However, this

Re: [Vo]:The Kinetic Energy Weapon (Bluff?) Theory of February 15, 2013's Cosmic Coincidence

2013-02-22 Thread ChemE Stewart
I understand how an iron meteorite can burn in the atmosphere and create sonic booms and break into pieces. I would like to see the model energy balance that shows me how that translates to a 500 kton blast from a 10kton rock while it is still in the air and has not given up its kinetic energy.

Re: [Vo]:Nanowire frequency conversion

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
Gamma Rays: Frequency Range: 1020 - 1024 Hz Wavelength Range: 10exp(-12) m 10 exp(-12) meters = 61.4421235 microns The nano structure must be less than the wavelength of the radiation, A BIG peice of nano-material is at or under 100 nanometers. This is less than 61 microns so a nano-structure

Re: [Vo]:The Kinetic Energy Weapon (Bluff?) Theory of February 15, 2013's Cosmic Coincidence

2013-02-22 Thread James Bowery
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:19 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Did you guys invent the Internet too? Terry, I like your theory better. I don't recall God's Rods. I think that would have been a bit too

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread David Roberson
The question of whether or not this is a bulk effect can be addressed by using a very thin plating of active material. If the reaction is similar with the thin film that you get with a larger bulk, or perhaps even a thicker plating, then it is surface related. I assume that there is adequate

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
I could imagine that some form of precursor event is required before another can be initiated. The concentration of electrons on the surface of the nano-material must reach a critical level before the reaction is productive. Rossi uses thermoelectric material to get this surface electron

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes Dave, thin layers of Pd have been studied and found to produce energy. In addition, the behavior of helium and tritium show that they are made very near the surface and not in the bulk. These issues have been well discussed. Ed On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:43 PM, David Roberson wrote: The

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
*New Findings from Rice University in the Area of Nanotechnology Published* *October 1st, 2012* 2012 OCT 1 (VerticalNews) -- By a News Reporter-Staff News Editor at Nanotechnology Weekly -- Investigators discuss new findings in Nanotechnology. According to news originating from Houston, Texas,

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Breed
The question of whether or not this is a bulk effect can be addressed by using a very thin plating of active material. If the reaction is similar with the thin film that you get with a larger bulk, or perhaps even a thicker plating, then it is surface related. I assume that there is adequate

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
From what I can read in these figures, the electric field enhancemnt ranges to 300 fold http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121024/srep00764/full/srep00764.html#/f4 On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: *New Findings from Rice University in the Area of

RE: [Vo]:Do Ni H LENR reactions generate detectable radiation?

2013-02-22 Thread Jones Beene
From: Kevin O'Malley It should be noted that the most common nuclear reaction in the Universe, by far - which is the reversible fusion of two protons into Helium-2 - such as happens with unimaginable frequency on most stars including our sun - is thought to produce no radiation.

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread David Roberson
Ed, When Szpak observed the flashes was it possible for him to determine the magnitude of the source of energy? I realize that he saw individual flashes, but how powerful was each one? Is it possible to prove that each flash was at a level consistent with the energy released by just one

Re: [Vo]:The Kinetic Energy Weapon (Bluff?) Theory of February 15, 2013's Cosmic Coincidence

2013-02-22 Thread David Roberson
I would guess that the magnitude of the shock wave is what is being compared. The air gets compressed ahead of the meteor since it can not move out of the way. This builds up to a very powerful blast. Dave -Original Message- From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:26 PM, David Roberson wrote: Ed, When Szpak observed the flashes was it possible for him to determine the magnitude of the source of energy? I realize that he saw individual flashes, but how powerful was each one? Is it possible to prove that each flash was at a

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I think Pons Fleishmann had their meltdown on a relatively very thick piece of Palladium. It was the thickest piece they had experimented on, 1 cubic centimeter IIRC. I know that's only one datapoint, but there could be others if we look for them. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM, David

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-22 Thread Harry Veeder
Sorry, I've only been skimming the posts in the thread. In the back of my mind I've been wondering how the two space rocks could be related even though they were headed in almost in opposite directions. Your talk of spacebased kinetic energy weapons got me thinkingIf a space rock fragments

Re: [Vo]:Nanowire frequency conversion

2013-02-22 Thread Kevin O'Malley
A BIG peice of nano-material is at or under 100 nanometers. This is less than 61 microns so a nano-structure that small can convert a gamma ray to heat because it is less than the far wavelenth of the radiation. ***Much of current semiconductor research is well under 100 nm. Why haven't they seen

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread David Roberson
Ed, I suspect that you did not follow my description of the heat involvement of the reaction. Unless the temperature is irrelevant at each finite location then what I was suggesting should be a major factor. Any heat energy that is emitted within a small volume will cause an immediate

Re: [Vo]:Nanowire frequency conversion

2013-02-22 Thread David Roberson
Check your dimensions. Gamma rays are on the order of the size of a nucleus. You appear off by many orders of magnitude. Dave -Original Message- From: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Feb 22, 2013 8:36 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nanowire

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Well Dave, your description might affect local regions. If the concentration of NAE is too high, a runaway effect might occur locally and cause local melting, which would kill the effect at that location. Nevertheless, the heat is not created only at the site of the reaction. The reaction

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread David Roberson
I guess a lot depends upon information that is difficult to obtain. I assumed that your process emitted photons of many types, but figured they could not be too energetic or else we would have detected them outside of the material since the surface is where they originate. This implies that

Re: [Vo]:Nanowire frequency conversion

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
It is accepted in mainstream physics. This technology has just begun development. Because the field is new, there the number of applications is few. He engineers have not taken full advantage of the basic scientific research. If we can pack large numbers of electrons into a confined space, each

Re: [Vo]:Nanowire frequency conversion

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
Sorry, my bad Axil On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:51 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Check your dimensions. Gamma rays are on the order of the size of a nucleus. You appear off by many orders of magnitude. Dave -Original Message- From: Kevin O'Malley

Re: [Vo]:explaining LENR -III

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
Under my theory of LENR it may be possible to setup a single nuclear active site for observation and measure what goes on inside that volume in detail. The experiment involves setting up a quantum dot with a 600 electron storage capacity constructed in a way to enclose the electron ensemble in

Re: [Vo]:Nanowire frequency conversion

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
Corrected… It is accepted in mainstream physics. This technology has just begun development. Because the field is new, the number of applications is few. The engineers have not taken full advantage of this type of basic scientific research. If we can pack large numbers of electrons into a

Re: [Vo]:Nanowire frequency conversion

2013-02-22 Thread David Roberson
Axil, I am trying to understand how your model is able to contain the large number of electrons without dispersion. It seems that the force repelling the electrons would force them to expand outward through any walls. How do you envision them being contained? Dave -Original

Re: [Vo]:Nanowire frequency conversion

2013-02-22 Thread Axil Axil
See for an example of fermion confinement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dot Plexcitons are different. They are bosons. It is an electron and a hole and where the hole is in the nickel wall of the cavity and the electron is in the empty space of the cavity. These electrons are held in