://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130306/local/maltese-electric-car-developer-promises-to-beat-market-leader.460324
Too ambitious?
Regards,
--
Patrick
www.tRacePerfect.com
The daily puzzle everyone can finish but not everyone can perfect!
The quickest puzzle ever!
I understand well the skepticism of many on Miley.
As far as I know Miley have no validated reactor. He has a rational
project, which can be written on the back of a Post-it. The image is an
artistic vision, which I hope is not the final engineering result.
However I deeply disagree with the
Jed wrote.
/The scientific establishment is an abstraction. It is not a real body.
There is no single group constituting that establishment that meets in a
building somewhere, like a Congress, and reaches unanimous conclusions.
Even if a majority of scientists remain unconvinced by a good
500km.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130306/local/maltese-electric-ca
r-developer-promises-to-beat-market-leader.460324
Too ambitious?
Too ambitious indeed. That would be my uneducated opinion. I'd love to be
proven wrong, but right now I'd be inclined to conclude that the claim
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:
Cnsider DoE's response. Their official policy is not to support LENR.
My point is that we do not need them. If someone would do a convincing demo
we would get plenty of money from private sources.
I think you underestimate the group think of
Jed is right, there is no committee that decide of truths.
Just network of interest where committee and leaders are super-nodes,
because they can drown the other in pits of stupidity without the other
having any chance to survive...
so better to follow happily and die, rather than oppose and die.
This will take around 25 kW for 8 hours or 200 kwh. To charge at 100%
efficiency in 10 minutes (one sixth an hour) will take a 1200 kW
source. At 220 VAC, we are talking about a 1,200,000 / 220 or 5454
ampere service.
The recharge station is a.k.a. a power substation.
Many think
you can take a great leap from a small experiment to some grand system. (Rossi
has tried that but I am afraid it will
not end well for him.) But I don’t think it works like that. You set a goal
that is just outside what you
know and what you have experience with and then you try.
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
that is how delusion wins. note that initially it is a rational opinion,
but with time it became a delusion because people are too much committed in
an error . . .
Delusion does not always win. Not everyone goes along with the DoE,
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
Many think you can take a great leap from a small experiment to some grand
system.
Yes. That is a bad idea. This is very important point!
(Rossi has tried that but I am afraid it will not end well for him.)
Apparently he tried and succeeded. As
Dear Dennis, Re going from small experiment to grand system:
I think actually there are two steps:
- low intensity, low reliability excess heat; (LENR)
- high intensity enhanced excess heat (LENR+)
The main difference is the mechanism of NAE-genesis and the temporal
density of these active sites.
Let me add a correction to this this thread. I recall now that Arata used a
thermoelectric chip and small motor used to focus a camera lens. That is
bigger than an analog wristwatch motor. Still, it was not a good
demonstration because it takes such a small amount of power. That leaves
room for
I doubt many people on this list have written a proposal to get
funding from a US government agency or evaluated such proposals, but I
have. Certain requirement are demanded. These in part are: the reason
why the program is important to the country , the exact way the
money will be
And this is why I asked the question I did. When I got the answer I did, I
was rendered speechless.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
I doubt many people on this list have written a proposal to get funding
from a US government agency or evaluated such
Isn't it an amazing thing - being forced to judge irrationality? It sounds
like an oxymoron or paradox.
Columbus discovered the West Indies and history lurched forward, regardless
of inaccuracy. I see Rossi and the attention he's brought to the subject the
same way. Fake in one way, real in
Chris, Rossi has produced real power using LENR. The only question is
whether he can use this to make a commercial product that is reliable
and meets a commercial need. Rossi is not a fake because the energy
is real. Unfortunately, he is very poor at public relations and has
very little
The current system I am working off of is at 0.25 to 1 W with no input. This is
with about 25 grams of sample
(density about 3 gm/ml - metal in C). This is in a heavy metal sphere with gas
pressure generated
in situ and sealed. The temperature is near room temp when not insulated.
Higher
Dennis, the CMNS group is the proper forum. Would you explain what you
are proposing there?
Ed
On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:07 AM, DJ Cravens wrote:
The current system I am working off of is at 0.25 to 1 W with no
input. This is with about 25 grams
of sample (density about 3 gm/ml - metal in C).
Dennis,
I would like to hear a little more about your experiment. What COP are you
measuring at this time and are you able to determine the temperature of the
reaction components?
Any information would be greatly appreciated and some among this list might be
able to offer suggestions.
Infinite.
He said The current system I am working off of is at 0.25 to 1 W with no
input
That's .25W/0W at minimum.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Dennis,
I would like to hear a little more about your experiment. What COP are
you measuring at
In reading comments on Eco's new book on another forum, in the context of
today's new VorteXX comments - this fine review came up:
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/books/magazine/97259/conspiracy-theory-pr
ague-cemetery#
... and the thought suddenly appeared ... doesn't Vortex dish out its own
CMNS started (or restarted) with the intent of experimental discussions but it
is seldom that, now mostly spinning theories- Seldom any nuts and bolts. I
think the only real forum for nuts and bolts are papers andposters these days.
I expect to just write up a simple poster for the meeting
On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:46 AM, DJ Cravens wrote:
CMNS started (or restarted) with the intent of experimental
discussions but it is seldom that, now mostly
spinning theories- Seldom any nuts and bolts. I think the only
real forum for nuts and bolts are papers and
posters these days.
The
LHC team observes first instance of D-mesons oscillating between matter and
antimatter
http://phys.org/news/2013-03-lhc-team-instance-d-mesons-oscillating.html
Preprint here:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1211.1230v1.pdf
As the ol' timers know, I've been pushing the concept that subatomic
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:46 AM, DJ Cravens wrote:
CMNS started (or restarted) with the intent of experimental discussions
but it is seldom that, now mostly
spinning theories- Seldom any nuts and bolts. I think the only
Lunarcy!
trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0ULU21THe4
about the film
http://filmswelike.com/films/lunarcy/
With wry humor and affection, Simon Ennis’ Lunarcy! follows a
disparate group of dreamers and schemers who share one thing in
common; they’ve all devoted their lives to the Moon.
20 years is not possible.
It will be in 2 years if industrialist get faster than naysayers.
It will be 5 years in China at most (if not tomorrow).
And if it gets back into the drawer, I will make it in 10 years in
Indonesia.
It cannot be 20 years, the devil is out of the box.
Of course science,
The proper
sites may be an answer for “difficult to cause”. But then there are step by
step methods of
producing decent cathodes- ( example-Letts, D. and Cravens, D., Cathode
fabrication methods to reproduce the Letts-Cravens effect, in. ASTI-5
www.iscmns.org/, Asti, Italy, 2004) and
Good Stuff
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:17 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote:
“LHC team observes first instance of D-mesons oscillating between matter
and antimatter”
http://phys.org/news/2013-03-lhc-team-instance-d-mesons-oscillating.html**
**
** **
Preprint here:
I don't understand why a partner would be kept with a secret identity.
Anyone can say, I have a large US partner. I'm not saying he doesn't
have one, I'm just saying it is curious.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:37 PM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:
Ed,
I sure looks like Rossi has
Ed,
I sure looks like Rossi has produced real power.Not clear why you think
he is bad at business.He has apparently allied himself with a large US
company capable of producing thousands of reactors per day yet not
causing sufficient excitement to stimulate much competition.We just have
to
It appears that you are seeing infinite COP as James suggested. You should be
able to make a good impression upon the ICCF crowd particularly if you can show
sufficient heating of your device without any drive. You should be prepared to
open up the container after a demonstration that is well
Dennis,
You just answered my last question. I guess I should have read through all the
recent posts before asking.
Actually Rossi still claims to achieve a COP of 6 which has been his
specification for a very long time. Some of the earlier demonstrations may
have yielded better, but they
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
The current system I am working off of is at 0.25 to 1 W with no input.
This is with about 25 grams
of sample (density about 3 gm/ml - metal in C). This is in a heavy metal
sphere with gas pressure
generated in situ and sealed. The temperature is near
Jed -interesting comment- As I have
told you before I have a seebeck that is roughly 8 times as sensitive (based on
V/watts) as Ed's and was made for a series of NRL experiments. But you seem to
keep harping on that and your money connections.As usual your comments just set
up straw
men and
Because if it became known he had an agreement with a large, well know
company (like GE) it would be strong confirmation that the E-Cat
worked. This would highly stimulate competition. It could all be
fraud, but I don't think so.
Adrian Ashfield
On 3/6/2013 1:44 PM, Jack Cole wrote:
I
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
Jed -interesting comment- As I have told you before I have a seebeck that
is roughly 8 times as sensitive (based on V/watts) as Ed's and was made for
a series of NRL experiments.
That would be okay. But I think people might appreciate an instrument
Well said.
Dennis, may I ask, since you may want to provide Les Case with a bit of the
credit (posthumously) - are you using his original carbon-Pd powder and
reactor, or your own version of it, or both ?
I understand that you acquired his stuff - possibly since no one else was
brave
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
A properly designed Seebeck is a lot more than that.
With an infinite COP all that's necessary is a room with a bunch of similar
pots of water, one of which has the infinite COP device in it.
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
A properly designed Seebeck is a lot more than that.
With an infinite COP all that's necessary is a room with a bunch of
similar pots of water, one of which has the infinite COP device in it.
With only one watt I do not think that would work well.
Hmm perhaps but one would think that if the water containers were
covered Styrofoam coolers, the temperature differences might accumulate
sufficiently to render the signal -- particularly given the distribution
represented by the numerous control containers -- quite significant.
Admittedly, I
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm perhaps but one would think that if the water containers were
covered Styrofoam coolers, the temperature differences might accumulate
sufficiently to render the signal . . .
At that point you are talking about an isoperibolic calorimeter. You
Quick arithmetic:
1m^2*.033W/(m*deltaK)*2deltaK/2in?W http://www.testardi.com/rich/calchemy2/
([{(1 * [meter^2]) * (0.033 * watt)} / {meter * deltaK}] * [2 *
deltaK]) / (2 * inch) ? watt
= 1.2992126 W
That's for styrofoam 2 inches thick and a cooler with total surface
area of 1m^2 and a 2
I don't think I have mentioned my
age or being old. Only that I am getting older and with it comes physical
limitations.For a while I was mistakenly given
only a short time to live due to nano powder complications.I have never said
lack of notice is
unfair. It is very fair. Most of the
Incorrect
assumption.I have not
been too successful with Ni H gas systems. And that
nano Ni leaks through valves, chews up your pumps, clogs your gauges, suspends
in the air for days, and messes with your lungs.(at one
time they diagnosed me with pulmonary hypertension… not good) I might be
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:42:06 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
This will take around 25 kW for 8 hours or 200 kwh. To charge at 100%
efficiency in 10 minutes (one sixth an hour) will take a 1200 kW
source. At 220 VAC, we are talking about a 1,200,000 / 220 or 5454
ampere
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
For a while I was mistakenly given only a short time to live due to nano
powder complications.
Maybe next time it will not be a false alarm. All the more reason to get on
with the work quickly. Why do all this work and then take it to the grave
with you,
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
And that nano Ni leaks through valves, chews up your pumps, clogs your
gauges, suspends in the air for days, and messes with your lungs.
(at one time they diagnosed me with pulmonary hypertension… not good)
And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is why I
I see no point to doing research and then not publishing it. It is like
cooking a meal and not eating it, or building houses and then burning them
down. Okay, I will grant that research is fun, but without the consummation
of sharing your results it seems like ashes in the mouth. A waste of life.
I KNOW that some old-fashion industry executive accept to speak on LENR...
Provided it stays private.
I think it is easier to have business with Cuba or Iran, than to invest in
cold fusion.
as I said earlier, LENR will get commercial... but it can be blocked in
(still) rich countries, by
Here is an interesting new study on using Moore's Law to predict technological
evolution. The Moore's effect is surprisingly good at predicting and especially
it does apply well on predicting the price evolution of solar electricity.
How to predict the progress of technology
MIT researcher
OK that quick guess arithmetic was interesting enough to motivate me to
look into the real numbers:
http://www.mrboxonline.com/8x6x7-styrofoam-coolers-p-6787.html
10 of those cost $55.50
They're 1.5in thick
They're 8x6x7 inside
They're 9.5x7.5x8.5 outside
Surface area
I don't
think I would take my secret to the grave. Most everything is
publically accessible by those who look. I also think all the major points are
out there. You may
think that it is wasted if I haven't gone beyond 1 W publically in the last few
years. However, I think that the finding of
If you restrict research in this area to only large well funded groups, then
there would be little left. D2
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:58:17 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days..
hurry up
From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
DJ
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
If you restrict research in this area to only large well funded groups,
then there would be little left.
You misunderstand. My idea is to get funding for existing groups, before
you accidentally kill yourselves.
I suspect Ohmori killed himself by doing
You may want to look at aerogel insulationSearch ebay for aspen aerogel
insulation or the pourable kind from United Nuclear if you just want to have a
hot sample without the water heating. D2 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:50:52 -0600
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for
Dennis,
You mentioned that Ni nanopowders linger in the air for a long time. Have you
tried to use a powerful magnet to attract them out of the air? I wonder if
such an arrangement would help keep the air safer for those performing this
type of experiment?
Dave
-Original
The insulated water containers boxes must all be identical. Fabricating
from aerogel seems like asking for trouble if off-the-shelf Styrofoam is
adequate and it looks like it may be.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:05 PM, DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote:
You may want to look at aerogel
yes, in my tubing I used Hepa filters (to slow them, and Neodymium magnets to
try to keep them out of the parts). They really getinto pump oil, and make
needle valves useless. I used out doors hood, .. etc. I now don't think
that nano is needed. It is also why I am now using metals in C
not really any fabricating the stuff (aspen kind) comes in mats and the
United Nuclear is a pourable grain. It work well. D2
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 16:12:15 -0600
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days..
hurry up
From: jabow...@gmail.com
To:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
In the wisdom of your years, how would you advise a lucky researcher who
has discovered the foundations of the LENR process to avoid the pitfalls of
others in the past?
I recommend they do what good scientists have always done, and what people
such as
Publication number
EP1642301 A2Publication typeApplicationPublication dateApr 5, 2006Filing
dateJun 12, 2004Priority date
Jun 13, 2003Inventors
Robert F.
Gazdzinskihttp://www.google.com/search?tbo=ptbm=ptshl=enq=ininventor:%22Robert+F.+Gazdzinski%22
Lowell
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:48 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Hypercharge technology means they recharge in 10 minutes at 10-15 thousand
volts.
Regardless, it takes 1.2 MW per charge station. Bollocks!
What if the price of the car includes a mini super power station that
works all day and is ready to supercharge the car very quickly?
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.comg wrote:
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:48 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Hypercharge technology
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com wrote:
What if the price of the car includes a mini super power station that
works all day and is ready to supercharge the car very quickly?
Then sell the power station and screw the car.
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
What if the price of the car includes a mini super power station that
works all day and is ready to supercharge the car very quickly?
Then sell the power station and screw the car.
Too true! That's hilarious!
- Jed
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:48 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Hypercharge technology means they recharge in 10 minutes at 10-15
thousand
volts.
Regardless, it takes 1.2 MW per charge station. Bollocks!
That's a fair percentage of all the power
The Engineering Department at the University of Malta is decently equipped.
It has produced plenty of innovative engineers and inventions.
As for the company itself, it's actually an italian company.
http://www.opercom.com/power/Italiano/contact.html
regards
patrick
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:27:07 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:48 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Hypercharge technology means they recharge in 10 minutes at 10-15 thousand
volts.
Regardless, it takes 1.2 MW per charge station. Bollocks!
Electric
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:48:28 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Speaking of staged drama, there is always the message of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_Reaction_%28film%29
The script writer for this film is, or at least used to be, a lurker on Vortex.
:)
Regards,
Robin van
How do you know this? The film did not get good reviews (like LENR) but
still seems to have grossed over $60,000,000... warped priorities, it would
seem. Had that sum gone into the technology, we might be seeing life
imitating art.
We're definitely in the wrong business - if access to funds is
I have just noticed, but yet to read, the recently posted arxiv papers -
Resonance-like nuclear processes in solids: 3rd and 4th order processes
http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.1262
Nuclear processes in solids: basic 2nd-order processes
http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.1078
Ni-H and d+d reactions are
the CF film that is hard to find is Bullseye (with Michael Caine and Roger
Moore) D2
From: jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10
days.. hurry up
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:36:16 -0800
How do you know this? The
Nice find Lou!!
At least it's an attempt to look for a theoretical explanation... it also
shows that some theoreticians aren't afraid to get involved with LENR.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:35
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