Yes, I see. The book comes highly recommended as the URL shows:
http://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/textbooks/science/2010/approved_textbooks/approved_science_textbooks.pdf
Textbook review was an agenda item on the Virginia Board of Education.
Dr. Linda Wallinger, Assistant
Robin wrote:
I would expect there to be a direct correlation between the Q and the line
width of spectral lines.
That's one possibility...
Another is that the actual line is much narrower than what you see, but the
frequency is varying about a mean so fast that it APPEARS to our measuring
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Subject: RE: [Vo]: About the March test
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:53:34 +0200
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Cable is for tough men, like electricity engineers...
Wires is for tiny girls, electronic engineers, or lab guys.
It remind me when Rossi talk of sanitary plumbing , and nobody out of EU
understood...
(OK, I'm from other countries...)
;-)
I admit that I only speak a rough froggish dialect of
one key point I've noticed is that they typically ask for impossible
things, at the date of demand
- tea kettle when PdD was not reliable. now they forgot
- IR camera to solve hostpots possibilityes with thermocouple
- phase change calorimetry when thermocouple and flow calorimetry was
questioned
I'm amazed by the capacity of nay-believers to ignore evidence and imagine
complicated hypothesis of fraud.
It seems that there's nearly nothing that could convince them.
I launch an hypothesis analysis whether some events could be accepted or
not :
Hypothesis 1: Ecat swedish showcase
Story:
Eric, in any theory, a person has to ask how and why. In your theory,
how is the energy released as kinetic energy without particles being
emitted? How is momentum conserved? Kinetic energy is defined as
something moving with a velocity. How is this velocity created from
initially still
I agree, but initially many people will see that physics is held
accountable, to the extent this is possible these days. Apparently, no
one can be held accountable any longer unless they suggest controlling
guns or not controlling abortion. Every other action, including fraud,
lies and
On Jun 21, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
I don't see how a gram or two of nano-powder can produce 10
kilowatts of heat output. Without running any numbers, the power
density is too high. Other atoms besides those in the powder must
also be involved in the production of power. How
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=806cpage=15#comment-723229
Andrea Rossi
June 22nd, 2013 at 2:46 AM
SERGIO FOCARDI, PROF. EMERITUS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF BOLOGNA, IS DEAD . I
RECEIVED THE NEW FROM ITALY TODAY AT 3 A.M., USA EASTERN TIME, FEW MINUTES AGO.
We all have lost one of the
Robin,
If UV is the type of radiation being released and is not capable of ionizing
the nearby free gas then your point is valid.
I have a suspicion that we are speaking of low energy X rays instead due to the
magnitude of the energy released. How many atoms must share the MeV level of
There seems to be several possibilities. Am I mistaken to believe that there
is one very exact value of orbital energy for this level? Does that imply that
Doppler shift accounts for the spreading for a single free atom?
Of course, if there is interaction among the nearby atoms, spread might
Kiplinger spent an entire page on the subject of ENERGY. As always, their
views remain conservative and prosaic. In their view petroleum products will
continue to rule the global economy for many years to come. This obviously
includes the United States where recent fracking technology is bringing
MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
Can you provide some details of the HAD event???
Sorry, but as I said – I can’t
talk about it in any detail (unfortunately).
All I will say is that it involved a
couple of tonnes of hot alloy steel, equivalent forms of which (mass,
shape grade) would normally cool to
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=806cpage=15#comment-723229
See you soon, my great Friend and Master Sergio! I will never forget our
work together and that day in the Brasimone Nuclear facility.
This is a provocative comment. “That
A little tale
In 1982 I attended a long job interview
at the JET (Joint European Torus) nuclear fusion project at Culham in
Oxfordshire (UK).
As part of the interview, I was given a tour
around the facility, acompanied by one of the engineers who could
explain the equipment and
Robin,
Good point, The spark allows DGT to pool their f/h2 further
from the disassociation threshold and then synchronize the release in
packets with the spark where Rossi has to run hotter - actually into the
threshold with a much heavier reliance on the heat sinking to
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=806cpage=15#comment-723229
AR: “See you soon, my great Friend and Master Sergio! I will
never forget our work together and that day in the Brasimone Nuclear
facility.”
Oh dear. Sorry to hear about this, but it is no surprise. He has been sick
for a long time.
I am glad he lived long enough to see the Hot Cat and the recent tests. I
wish Martin had.
- Jed
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
Cable is for tough men, like electricity engineers...
Wires is for tiny girls, electronic engineers, or lab guys.
That's hysterical! And true.
I call anything you communicate with a cable such as Cat5 Ethernet
cables, or the cables used to attach a
So, it was not complete BS that Rossi made the 1st test in public so early
so that Focardi could see it working.
2013/6/22 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Oh dear. Sorry to hear about this, but it is no surprise. He has been sick
for a long time.
I am glad he lived long enough to see the
Hi Jones,
That is the one thing that struck me when I read Rossi’s ‘eulogy’…
More clues…
-Mark
_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:29 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Focardi has died
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
So, it was not complete BS that Rossi made the 1st test in public so early
so that Focardi could see it working.
Not even slightly BS. Several people told me Focardi has been very ill for
many years.
Why do people make so many accusations of BS and
I think this lab is also a possibility…
http://web.brasimone.enea.it/mat/matindac.htm
http://web.brasimone.enea.it/mat/hydrogen/hydindex.htm
-Mark
_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 9:29 AM
To:
The Higgs theory is a superconductive magnetic mechanism of QCD and states
that quarks are monopoles. The pions are can be interpreted as the magnetic
gauge boson.**
* *
http://phys.cts.ntu.edu.tw/si2012/files%5CRyuichiroKitano.ppt.pdf**
* *
*Hadron physics as*
* *
*Seiberg dual of QCD*
* *
How bout this ref:
G. Benamati, E. Serra., C.H. Wu, Hydrogen and deuterium transport and
inventory parameters through W and W-alloys for fusion reactors
applications, in press on Journal of Nuclear Materials
http://web.brasimone.enea.it/mat/hydrogen/hydindex.htm
Hasn’t tungsten been discussed as
Look at the layered materials on this page:
http://web.brasimone.enea.it/mat/other/bonindex.htm
W/Ni/Cu/Al/CuCrZr
_
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:08 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE:
From Leonard:
...
ps. Actually, they did offer me a job – but I turned it down,
and instead went off to further my studies (although later returning
to work at their sister site, the infamous Harwell – but that will be
another tale ;-)
I hope you get around to telling it too!
_
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint
Look at the layered materials on this page:
http://web.brasimone.enea.it/mat/other/bonindex.htm
W/Ni/Cu/Al/CuCrZr
I know what will end the denial. It will end the day that mainstream
authoritative institutions such as the DoE, the APS and the New York Times
endorse cold fusion. Most skeptics are conformists and they will believe
whatever the mainstream institutions tell them to believe. The day after
the
They probably could get whatever isotopes they wanted… at the request of a
senior physicist.
;-)
I think we need to rename this thread…
-Mark
_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:35 AM
To:
This thread was titled:
[Vo]: Focardi has died
however, it started to head down a rabbit hole which might converge on other
rabbit holes, at what depth is still unknown... and needs to have a more
accurate title better reflecting what's in this rabbit hole.
It all started when Jones
Not everything that is real, is also useful, but everything useful
is real. At this stage, with the known long history, reality of
LENR is not more relevant, only usefulness can bring general
acceptance.
Peter
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I
Clarification on finding the link titled:
Hydrogen embrittlement in martensitic steels
It's on the LEFT side of the page at:
http://web.brasimone.enea.it/mat/hydrogen/hydindex.htm
-mark
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] On Behalf Of Mark
Iverson
Sent: Saturday,
_
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint
They probably could get whatever isotopes they wanted… at
the request of a senior physicist.
;-)
I think we need to rename this
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Most skeptics are conformists and they will believe whatever the mainstream
institutions tell them to believe.
The general public may not believe this is true, but I am beginning to
think it might be.
The day after
I disagree.
Although the more superfluous speculations of religious authority about
natural sciences were invalidated, the core doctrine of the church was not
at all under any kind of threat because they had, wisely as professional
fraud artists, distanced themselves from testable theories in
[Vo]:Hydrogen-like ions and[Vo]:Of Embrittlement and NAEs...
This rabbit whole seems to have bifurcated…
I like my title better!
;-)
-mark
_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 11:10 AM
To:
Again, the analogy does not hold. The achemists were claiming to transmute
base metals to gold and were discredited when the chemists claimed to
have been the victim of the alchemists' incompetence and
delusionhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR-AohRWbBo
.
We'll be lucky if we don't get another
Nassim Nicholas taleb predict that in Antifragile, in the chapter
lecturing birds to fly, history written by the losers.
http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/Triana-fwd.pdf
real innovation is done by tinkerers, practitioners, garage inventors,
engineers, with trial and error method...
and academic
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.comwrote:
Sorry for all people who really speak english, and even the americans,
australian, irish and canadians, and to Roger Bird specially.
No need to apologize. Your English is very good.
Eric
sorry, your comment is too good to be ignored. you have been quoted !
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?2043-How-MIT-discovered-LENR-in-2015-History-written-by-the-losersp=5326#post5326
and Nassim Nicholas taleb too:
Nassim Nicholas Taleb explain well that story as systematic, in
Ed, these are very good questions. At the risk of reiterating points made
in older threads, I'll attempt to address each question as I am able.
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:
In your theory, how is the energy released as kinetic energy without
I love that quote:
that is all what we see
Pol Pot:* So even though mathematicians spend their lives exploring the
full implications of a few axioms and barely make a dent in the potential
theorems, and even though physicists can't claim the formal rigor of
mathematical proof, you claim that it
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
. . . .I might try to spin things like this:
When Pons and Fleischmann first made claim of their 'results,' the least
competent in science rushed to the scene and made it very difficult to sift
wheat from chaff. No one would publish their results in
https://www.simonsfoundation.org/features/science-news/is-nature-unnatural/
On an overcast afternoon in late April, physics professors and
students crowded into a wood-paneled lecture hall at Columbia
University for a talk by Nima Arkani-Hamed, a high-profile theorist
visiting from the Institute
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:28:38 PM
or the self-congratulatory New York Times special edition of
2089 !
will be able to find the facts about cold fusion. But most people will
ignore the facts.
MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
Here is the next paper-chase suggestion: “Hydrogen-like ions”
“Experiments with the hydrogen-like ions Ne-20, S-32, Ar-40,
Fe-54 and
Ni-62” was a paper that came up in following the cyberspace
trail out of
I am happily not normal. As an aside, this photograph was taken the
year I was born:
http://www.openminds.tv/famous-ufo-photo-taken-near-edwards-air-force-base-in-1954-video-1052/
Mark,
You could be on the way to something valid and most unexpected - with
embrittlement being a critical parameter - especially with the HotCat. But
you may not have gone deep enough into the rabbit hole, since this insight
on embrittlement invariably leads all the way to complete porosity -
Mark J:
Thanks for the links, I’m sure Jones will look them up…
NOTE that it was Jones Beene who started the thread, “Hydrogen-like ions”…
Credit where credit is due…
-Mark Iverson
From: Mark Jurich [mailto:jur...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:50 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
For that I think we need a bigger particle collider and spitter outerer we
call our Sun... A billion tons of particles per CME. I think our weather
is just topological defects.
On Saturday, June 22, 2013, Terry Blanton wrote:
Jones,
You've got a better set of night-vision goggles so you can see a bit deeper!
J
-Mark
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:56 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Of Embrittlement and NAEs...
Mark,
You could be on the way to
BTW, your return address is set to your personal address, not Vortex-l. You
might want to adjust that.
Steven Vincent Johnson
Huh? My reply-to address is set to nothing. The list server at eskimo.com
appears not be set up to over-ride list-member source addresses, and force the
list
Interesting find MarkJ,
Mr. Cub seems to have chosen Ni-62 for one of the elements in his work…
A search on arXiv.org only has one PDF with J.Cub as a contributing author:
http://arxiv.org/abs/nucl-ex/0010005
“Potential and limitations of nucleon transfer experiments with radioactive
Mark Iverson wrote:
NOTE that it was Jones Beene who started the thread,
“Hydrogen-like ions”…
Credit where credit is due…
My apologies on the misquote, folks!
FYI: The iNSPIRE HEP (High Energy Physics) Literature Database is a very useful
tool
On further consideration of this topic (hydrogen-like ions) it may not be
relevant to Rossi. At least there is no obvious cross-connection (for a
non-German speaker).
But the idea of a plasmonic interfacial layer - where hydrogen meets
plasmons/polaritons does hold up under closer scrutiny,
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:15:37 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
A couple of weeks ago I gave Rossi a relatively cheap and simple method of
achieving fine control over the cooling. I am waiting to see if he implements
it.
[snip]
That sounds like a good material for Rossi to
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 12:45:33 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Also, why does the system choose to release energy this way? What rule
makes this the easiest way?
I'm not sure. This is one of the many questions I have. I have been
trying to understand the system
Is it the momentum that is shared with a spectator nucleus or the excess energy
that wants to cause the He4 to break up? We have been seeking a process that
is able to extract the relatively large energy of the excited helium nucleus in
a slower than normal manner. I suppose that I refer to
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:01:53 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Robin,
If UV is the type of radiation being released and is not capable of ionizing
the nearby free gas then your point is valid.
I have a suspicion that we are speaking of low energy X rays instead due
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 19:46:49 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Is it the momentum that is shared with a spectator nucleus or the excess
energy that wants to cause the He4 to break up?
Both. The momentum is shared equally between both nuclei, i.e. one is the
I see where you are going with this. If one does not yet accept that hydrinos
are real then he looks for other methods of energy generation such as fusion.
I am still in that camp, but one day might become convinced otherwise.
Have you performed the calculations of the amount of hydrogen
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 16:30:39 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
https://www.simonsfoundation.org/features/science-news/is-nature-unnatural/
On an overcast afternoon in late April, physics professors and
students crowded into a wood-paneled lecture hall at Columbia
University
I suppose He4 is a relatively tough little nut to crack, but it seems to happen
more often than not when D's fuse. Isn't that the reason that T or He3 tend to
remain alive after a free space event? COM will always be achieved when two
D's collide and remain stuck together. COE suggests that
If you have indeed come up with something that is as elegant as the passive
power output from LFTR for the E-Cat HT, my apologies for misunderstanding
your proposal and my congratulations.
Can you cite any patent numbers that use this sort of passive temperature
control using Li heat pipes? Can
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:18:02 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Have you performed the calculations of the amount of hydrogen that is required
to run one of these devices for a half year with the relatively meager energy
released by hydrino processes? That might be
John,
This is easily disproved. Look at the temperature output graph. How does
you notion of constant power instead of a 33% duty cycle explain the dips
as rises indicative of a 33% duty cycle in the output corresponding with
the measured power on cycles.
I was hoping that you or someone else would have calculated the amount of
hydrogen required to put out a reasonable amount of power for the mandatory 1/2
year. This has been done for fusion and adds up to a moderate requirement. I
have a strong suspicion that the hydrino path would fall way
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:29:00 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
I suppose He4 is a relatively tough little nut to crack, but it seems to
happen more often than not when D's fuse. Isn't that the reason that T or He3
tend to remain alive after a free space event? COM
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:55:14 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
I was hoping that you or someone else would have calculated the amount of
hydrogen required to put out a reasonable amount of power for the mandatory
1/2 year. This has been done for fusion and adds up
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 13:55:36 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Here in Volandia, you see, it takes all
the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get
somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast!
.. or just stand still. ;)
Regards,
Robin van
In reply to MarkI-ZeroPoint's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:01:18 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin wrote:
I would expect there to be a direct correlation between the Q and the line
width of spectral lines.
That's one possibility...
Another is that the actual line is much narrower than what you see,
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Is it the momentum that is shared with a spectator nucleus or the excess
energy that wants to cause the He4 to break up?
I think it's considered something different than 4He -- I've heard the
intermediate product called
OK --- I have a calibrated (but still to be checked) run for the main waveforms
:
http://lenr.qumbu.com/web_hotcat_spice/130621_spice_02.png
Right now the Triangle/Sawtooth look the best (they differ only in the fall
time).
That 02 plot's for the output temperature. I'll get some preliminary
OK --- I have a calibrated (but still to be checked) run for the main
waveforms :
http://lenr.qumbu.com/web_hotcat_spice/130621_spice_02.png
Right now the Triangle/Sawtooth look the best (they differ only in
the fall time).
The triangle (150-sec rise, 150-sec fall) has its peak too far
*http://www.thermacore.com/products/variable-conductance-heat-pipe.aspx*
**
*Heat pipes have this ability for Variable Conductance, here is what
thermacore does. *
**
*How Does a Variable Conductance Heat Pipe Work?*
All heat pipes can be made variable conductance by introducing a small mass
of
Dave,
In terms of kg of hydrogen per kW of energy, the rule of thumb is a gain of
200:1 (ratio) if the hydrogen goes to an average redundancy level that Mills
apparently believes is correct. This would be on the low side - if some of
that f/H then converts via a nuclear pathway.
Thus,
The fact that T and He3 are typical for the hot reaction and that there is much
space between reacting bodies tends to support the case that I am floating. In
LENR, there are always nearby bodies to share with. The question that arises
is whether or not energy can be quickly shared with the
But no one would believe a skeptic. This has to be done by someone who has
faith in the process.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?
In reply to David
I recently saw an input that suggested that the frequency error for a hydrogen
orbit jump between the lowest states was only 11 hertz out of a very large
estimated center frequency. Was that a paper that you found Robin? The error
would have been in parts per trillion or so which is quite
Already see a couple of typos - kW is power, not energy.
Calculations, even with aid of Windows - are not recommend during a (Pinot
Grigio fueled) wake for Sergio.
From: Jones Beene
Dave,
In terms of kg of hydrogen per kW of energy, the rule of thumb is a gain of
200:1
Eric, you seem to be suggesting some form of isomer of He4. I suppose if that
is possible, then it would allow the energy a temporary storage location before
it becomes released. Is there any evidence that this happens?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker
Jones, thanks for taking the time to perform the calculation. Even though it
is a back of the envelope attempt, I think you have answered the question.
Subject to revision, it appears that fusion must be taking place in Rossi's
device in order for it to operate for as long as he specifies.
I am not sure what life time limits are placed upon isomers. In this case I
feel that a process which keeps energy stored in an excited nucleus for enough
time to allow it to drain off instead of blowing the atom apart is special. My
understanding is that most of these nuclear processes are
Dave,
Over the years - Robin, myself and a few others who regularly post here –
although not being completely taken-in by Mills theory due to promises which
are unfulfilled - yet in awe of what he has accomplished on paper (compared to
others) and in the Lab – have suggested that the
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Everything in LENR seems to begin with ground-state redundancy and end in QM
tunneling.
Interesting that almost no one attributes the energy to the ZPF.
I suspect that most of the people believe in COE which excludes any free energy
from ZPF. Maybe one day someone will come up with proof that ZPF can be
practically utilized, but until that time I will abide by COE.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To:
Regardless of the mechanism, each proposed nuclear reaction has an
energy consequence. Here are the consequences for the three reactions
proposed to occur. Notice that to make one watt of power, the rate
must be between 10^11 and 10^12 events/sec. This means that the
reactants must move at
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 22:47:15 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Apparently a HotCat whichmay be more efficient - at a kW output with only 5
grams of hydrogen availablein a sealed capsule could not run for over 30 hours
unless it was better thanthe 200:1.
30*kWh/5*mole
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 22:28:39 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
I recently saw an input that suggested that the frequency error for a hydrogen
orbit jump between the lowest states was only 11 hertz out of a very large
estimated center frequency. Was that a paper
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:46 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I suspect that most of the people believe in COE which excludes any free
energy from ZPF. Maybe one day someone will come up with proof that ZPF can
be practically utilized, but until that time I will abide by COE.
I
The transmutation model that I believe that the ash assays of LENR reactors
point to is a quark plasma model in which nuclei are broken down by fission
and concurrently built up by fusion. The elements so derived could be
reprocessed by a reaction reformulation process indefinitely.
For
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sat, 22 Jun 2013 22:22:23 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
The fact that T and He3 are typical for the hot reaction and that there is
much space between reacting bodies tends to support the case that I am
floating. In LENR, there are always nearby bodies to share
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Silly but extremely simple.
Just want to add that the pulsing of energy and the mertranome
principles also apply here; but, I don't always understand my
inspirations. :-)
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 23 Jun 2013 01:41:18 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:46 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I suspect that most of the people believe in COE which excludes any free
energy from ZPF. Maybe one day someone will come up with proof
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:49 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Actually it reminds me more of Fran's theory than Mills. However the H
wouldn't
get used up at all. That might be something to keep an eye on.
Yeah, I love Fran's theory; but, it takes me a while to incorporate
the relativistic
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