[Vo]:[test, please ignore]

2014-04-23 Thread Teslaalset
Haven't been receiving mails from Vortex for 2 days.
This is a reflector test


Re: [Vo]:[test, please ignore]

2014-04-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Check your spam file. Gmail has suddenly started sending many of my Vortex
messages to the spam file. Actually, it does not send them, because I have
a filter set up to overrule it, but many messages say:

*This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created.*

(Your message said that too.)


Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote:

Haven't been receiving mails from Vortex for 2 days.
 This is a reflector test



Re: [Vo]:[test, please ignore]

2014-04-23 Thread Daniel Rocha
Wow, same here! :O

2014-04-23 9:56 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
 Check your spam file. Gmail has suddenly started sending many of my Vortex
 messages to the spam file. Actually, it does not send them, because I have a
 filter set up to overrule it, but many messages say:

 This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created.

 (Your message said that too.)


 Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Haven't been receiving mails from Vortex for 2 days.
 This is a reflector test





-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com



RE: [Vo]:[test, please ignore]

2014-04-23 Thread Jones Beene
This happened to me recently.

The solution that worked for me is to re-subscribe. 

To subscribe, send a *blank* message to:
vortex-l-requ...@eskimo.com

Put the single word subscribe in the subject line of the header.  NOTHING 
else!

No quotes around subscribe, of course. 


-Original Message-
From: Daniel Rocha 

Wow, same here! :O

2014-04-23 9:56 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
 Check your spam file. Gmail has suddenly started sending many of my Vortex
 messages to the spam file. Actually, it does not send them, because I have a
 filter set up to overrule it, but many messages say:

 This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created.

 (Your message said that too.)


 Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Haven't been receiving mails from Vortex for 2 days.
 This is a reflector test





-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com



[Vo]:subscribe

2014-04-23 Thread ChemE Stewart



Re: [Vo]:[test, please ignore]

2014-04-23 Thread Michele Comitini
Confirmed here too!  gmail has put vortex-l on the spam-list! I
suppose that a number marking vortex-l messages as NOT SPAM
would help the filter bot change its mind...

2014-04-23 16:16 GMT+02:00 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net:
 This happened to me recently.

 The solution that worked for me is to re-subscribe.

 To subscribe, send a *blank* message to:
 vortex-l-requ...@eskimo.com

 Put the single word subscribe in the subject line of the header.  NOTHING 
 else!

 No quotes around subscribe, of course.


 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Rocha

 Wow, same here! :O

 2014-04-23 9:56 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
 Check your spam file. Gmail has suddenly started sending many of my Vortex
 messages to the spam file. Actually, it does not send them, because I have a
 filter set up to overrule it, but many messages say:

 This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created.

 (Your message said that too.)


 Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Haven't been receiving mails from Vortex for 2 days.
 This is a reflector test





 --
 Daniel Rocha - RJ
 danieldi...@gmail.com




Re: [Vo]:[test, please ignore]

2014-04-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:

Confirmed here too!  gmail has put vortex-l on the spam-list!


It is not just Vortex messages. I think the filter is being triggered by
unusually short messages. Other short messages from various people have
been marked as Spam lately. Google must have tweaked their spam detection
software lately. They went overboard, filtering out too many messages. They
will probably fix the problem soon.

As you say, it will help if people mark messages as not spam.

I have had problems with short messages generated by hacked g-mail accounts
that begin with messages such as: Hi! How are you? People say it works . .
. with a link to a web site that steals your e-mail log on. I have gotten
4 or 5 of these, including one from someone who is long dead. I told his
relatives to close down the account. I suppose the hackers have access to
all of his e-mail.

G-mail correctly identifies these messages. It says:

*Be careful with this message. *It contains content that's typically used
to steal personal information. Learn
morehttp://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=1074268ctx=mail

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Lasers and UltraHigh Molecular Spin

2014-04-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
G-mail thinks this is spam. This is an example of a short message that was
rejected.

- Jed


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings Vortex-L,

 Never knew such rotations were possible:
 *https://www.sciencenews.org/article/laser-kicks-molecules-fastest-ever-spin
 https://www.sciencenews.org/article/laser-kicks-molecules-fastest-ever-spin*

 *Ad Astra,*
 *Ron Kita, Chiralex*
 *Of note: Camphor molecules are spherical and can attain very high
 rotations..even in the solid state. S.O. Morgan of Bell Labs.*



Re: [Vo]:Lasers and UltraHigh Molecular Spin

2014-04-23 Thread Axil Axil
This message was rejected to my spam when it was posted originally, but now
the spam override filter I installed seems to be working for this message
retransmission.


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings Vortex-L,

 Never knew such rotations were possible:
 *https://www.sciencenews.org/article/laser-kicks-molecules-fastest-ever-spin
 https://www.sciencenews.org/article/laser-kicks-molecules-fastest-ever-spin*

 *Ad Astra,*
 *Ron Kita, Chiralex*
 *Of note: Camphor molecules are spherical and can attain very high
 rotations..even in the solid state. S.O. Morgan of Bell Labs.*



Re: [Vo]:Lasers and UltraHigh Molecular Spin

2014-04-23 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
 G-mail thinks this is spam. This is an example of a short message that was
 rejected.

I suppose we must have experienced something like this before since
some of us, myself included, already had a filter which routes
messages with the [VT] prefix to the inbox.

Hmm, was that why the [VT] prefix was established by Bill.  Damned if
I can remember.



Re: [Vo]:Lasers and UltraHigh Molecular Spin

2014-04-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
  G-mail thinks this is spam. This is an example of a short message that
 was
  rejected.

 I suppose we must have experienced something like this before since
 some of us, myself included, already had a filter which routes
 messages with the [VT] prefix to the inbox.


I have it filtered by the To: field. I do not need the [VT]. The filter
parameters are:


Matches: to:(vortex-l@eskimo.com)
Do this: Skip Inbox, Mark as read, Apply label Vortex, Never send it to
Spam


G-mail has good filtering capabilities.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Lasers and UltraHigh Molecular Spin

2014-04-23 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have it filtered by the To: field. I do not need the [VT]. The filter
 parameters are:


 Matches: to:(vortex-l@eskimo.com)
 Do this: Skip Inbox, Mark as read, Apply label Vortex, Never send it to
 Spam

Hah!  I have that one too.  When did we create them?  Or is your
memory as bad as mine?  :-)



Re: [Vo]:Lasers and UltraHigh Molecular Spin

2014-04-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:


  Matches: to:(vortex-l@eskimo.com)
  Do this: Skip Inbox, Mark as read, Apply label Vortex, Never send it to
  Spam

 Hah!  I have that one too.  When did we create them?  Or is your
 memory as bad as mine?  :-)


There is no date on the filters. If the computer doesn't know, I don't know.

Here is something clever in the g-mail Settings, under the General tab:


Undo Send:
Enable Undo Send
Send cancellation period: 5102030 seconds


This gives you 5 seconds to recall an e-mail. This feature was introduced
without fanfare last year.

Another handy trick is Ctrl-space to remove formatting.

Google does not list their keystroke macros anywhere as far as I know.
(Keystroke macro = shortcut).

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:[OT] But not entirely: Book: CAPITAL in the Twenty-First Century, by Thomas Piketty

2014-04-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

A book recommendation:




 http://www.amazon.com/Capital-Twenty-First-Century-Thomas-Piketty/dp/067443000X/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1398126885sr=1-1keywords=capital+in+the+twenty-first+century


I am thinking of hunkering down and reading this book at some point.  Doing
that is probably something one would need to commit to in this case, in the
same way that one would need to set aside many weeks to read Weber's *Economy
and Society*.  A nice summary of Piketty's argument that I've read
elsewhere is something like: increasing inequality in income is intrinsic
to capitalism and is not an incidental, unrelated effect.  The word
increasing is important -- Piketty seems to be saying that with un- or
under-regulated capitalism, not only do you get inequality in income (to be
expected), but ever more inequality over time as well.  In other words,
rentiers take hold and gradually increase the scope of what they control at
everyone else's expense, and this process is intrinsic to raw capitalism.

Btw, here is the explanation I read for why eight or so Vortex messages
ended up in the spam folder:

*Why is this message in Spam?* We've found that lots of messages from
eskimo.com are spam.  Learn
morehttp://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=1366858ctx=mailexpand=5

So it seems that eskimo.com might have been blacklisted.

Eric