Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Terry Blanton]

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown  wrote:
>
> Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring their
> O-Cube
>
> ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4

Returns "This Video is Private".

http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1

Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Esa Ruoho]

Terry, try this - the video is there
https://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153314887302672/

On 22 October 2015 at 22:30, Terry Blanton  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown  wrote:
> >
> > Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring
> their
> > O-Cube
> >
> > ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4
>
> Returns "This Video is Private".
>
> http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1
>
>


-- 

---
http://twitter.com/esaruoho
http://lackluster.bandcamp.com

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Back to the Future Day

[Alain Sepeda]

not off topic, may people maon that they promised cold fusion reactor...
and none know we are not far...

2015-10-22 4:08 GMT+02:00 Terry Blanton :

> http://www.october212015.com/
>
> https://youtu.be/P1ULjJ3EqyY
>
> Enjoy!
>
>

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:OT? breakthrough in 2-D lasers

[Roarty, Francis X]

Jones,
Agreed, and also other threads we touched upon like whispering gallery, SPP and 
tungsten arrays.. I kept running into things discussed here as if the article 
was written by a vortician so felt it deserved some attention.
Fran

From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 8:00 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:OT? breakthrough in 2-D lasers

From: Roarty, Francis X

http://www.rdmag.com/news/2015/10/exciting-breakthrough-2-d-lasers

Ø  Among the most talked about class of materials in the world of 
nanotechnology today are 2-D transition metal dichalcogenides (TMDCs)

Another interesting TMDC which they did not mention, but we have alluded to 
here are few times, as a candidate catalyst for hydrogen densification - is 
molybdenum disulfide. If this material (the moly) could be induced to lase, we 
would have the interesting situation of possibly being able to build an etched 
nanocircuit where the SPP formation was integrated as an actual digital feature 
of the device.

RE: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Craig Brown]

Apparently the PRGurus behind the video weren't happy. They politely asked it be removed from view leaving the Facebook version to be the sole source of the video. I can understand that, considering what they want to achieve.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product
Demonstrations
From: Terry Blanton 
Date: Fri, October 23, 2015 5:30 am
To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" 

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown  wrote:
>
> Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring their
> O-Cube
>
> ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4

Returns "This Video is Private".

http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations

[Terry Blanton]

No joy.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Esa Ruoho" 
To: 
Subject: [Vo]:NEW LIVE Steorn Webinars Announced - Product Demonstrations
Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2015 3:43 PM

Terry, try this - the video is 
therehttps://www.facebook.com/217496297671/videos/10153314887302672/


On 22 October 2015 at 22:30, Terry Blanton  wrote:
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Craig Brown  wrote:

>

> Teaser PROMO for upcoming LIVE Steorn Free Energy Webinars featuring their

> O-Cube

>

> ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FmbNkfgS4



Returns "This Video is Private".



http://i.imgur.com/AxnBVJ5.png?1






-- 

---
http://twitter.com/esaruoho
http://lackluster.bandcamp.com

[Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

[Jones Beene]

Very interesting presentation this morning. Ólafsson was both low key and
optimistic that Holmlid is onto something important. Alan Goldwater also
presented his open source work on the basic glow reactor of Rossi/Parkhomov.
At first glance, there would appear to be no connection between the two …
but read on.

Holmlid is clearly the lead individual on the dense hydrogen phenomenon and
Ólafsson is interpreting his work going back to 2008 and before. However,
most of the proof is by process of elimination. This will be even more
controversial than cold fusion until proven. Again, what was demonstrated is
NOT cold fusion and not really hot fusion either. Copious amounts of
radiation would expected in such a laser driven reaction when it gets up to
the kilowatt level of thermal gain. Now it is subwatt. 

However, in different circumstances (electrolysis) the same reactant (which
is dense deuterium clusters) could explain P cold fusion, and explain the
lack of radiation in circumstances where a laser does not disintegrate the
reactant. IOW, there can be a range of circumstances– all involving dense
deuterium bound at a few picometers separation - where other outcomes are
expected: other than disintegration to mesons -> pions -> muons etc. With
the laser as the input power, when a deuteron disintegrates in a laser
pulse, over 900 MeV or ~ 40 times MORE energy is released than in fusion !

There were about 35 people in attendance including  a few heavy hitters who
prefer not to be identified. The venue is a stone’s throw from Sand Hill
Road. A video crew filmed the whole thing. Holmlid apparently wants to call
the phenomenon “Cold Spallation” but I think that is a bad choice, since it
does not look like nuclear spallation as we know it. And there is nothing
cold about the output. BTW – Ólafsson said that calling the Rydberg matter
“inverted” (in the paper with Miley) was not accurate.

The only thing needed now is replication. 

A professor whose name I did not catch (San Jose State ?) has been trying to
replicate LH but has not been successful. Holmlid recently told him that the
dense hydrogen takes several weeks to accumulate, and has an extended shelf
life thereafter. That seems to me to be the main takeaway lesson  ** weeks
to accumulate **. 

As I recall, a few years back, there was a message where Rossi mentioned
that his supplier in Italy required months to make a batch of active
reactant. Could it be that Rossi has been inadvertently getting dense
hydrogen all along?

The presentation of Alan Goldwater was very impressive. I am confident that
if and when Alan announces thermal gain in a Rossi style reactor – we can
believe it. That has not happened yet but he is very methodical and
dedicated. Like many others including myself, he accepts Bob Higgins
downgraded assessment of the Lugano report (slight gain – perhaps COP~1.2
see Bob’s white paper).

I encouraged Alan – in light of Olafsson’s presentation - to consider a
2-stage or compound system where he would manufacture the dense deuterium
separately from the reactor where it is to be converted to heat. At first he
seemed dubious that two steps would be required – in order to merge
Holmlid’s results with Rossi. But this strategy would allow a very low
powered continuous laser to accumulate the dense material over time. The
ideal situation, if one wishes to avoid radiation toxicitym seems to be: do
NOT to use a fast pulse intense laser to convert dense deuterium into heat
(this assumes there does exist the radiation-free route to convert it to
heat).

IMO - It will be very difficult to continuously resupply the dense Rydberg
matter in situ (in the same reactor it is being burnt in) and not see
harmful radiation. It can be done at the subwatt level, but those two
processes are fundamentally in conflict – especially when you get to high
power.  

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

[Axil Axil]

Regarding: ** weeks to accumulate **.

Could this long preparation time be the reason for fuel preprocessing as
seen in the Lugano fuel sample?

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:

> Very interesting presentation this morning. Ólafsson was both low key and
> optimistic that Holmlid is onto something important. Alan Goldwater also
> presented his open source work on the basic glow reactor of
> Rossi/Parkhomov. At first glance, there would appear to be no connection
> between the two … but read on.
>
> Holmlid is clearly the lead individual on the dense hydrogen phenomenon
> and Ólafsson is interpreting his work going back to 2008 and before.
> However, most of the proof is by process of elimination. This will be even 
> more
> controversial than cold fusion until proven. Again, what was demonstrated
> is NOT cold fusion and not really hot fusion either. Copious amounts of
> radiation would expected in such a laser driven reaction when it gets up
> to the kilowatt level of thermal gain. Now it is subwatt.
>
> However, in different circumstances (electrolysis) the same reactant (which
> is dense deuterium clusters) could explain P cold fusion, and explain
> the lack of radiation in circumstances where a laser does not disintegrate
> the reactant. IOW, there can be a range of circumstances– all involving
> dense deuterium bound at a few picometers separation - where other
> outcomes are expected: other than disintegration to mesons -> pions ->
> muons etc. With the laser as the input power, when a deuteron
> disintegrates in a laser pulse, over 900 MeV or ~ 40 times MORE energy is
> released than in fusion !
>
> There were about 35 people in attendance including  a few heavy hitters
> who prefer not to be identified. The venue is a stone’s throw from Sand
> Hill Road. A video crew filmed the whole thing. Holmlid apparently wants
> to call the phenomenon “Cold Spallation” but I think that is a bad
> choice, since it does not look like nuclear spallation as we know it. And
> there is nothing cold about the output. BTW – Ólafsson said that calling
> the Rydberg matter “inverted” (in the paper with Miley) was not accurate.
>
> The only thing needed now is replication.
>
> A professor whose name I did not catch (San Jose State ?) has been trying
> to replicate LH but has not been successful. Holmlid recently told him that
> the dense hydrogen takes several weeks to accumulate, and has an extended
> shelf life thereafter. That seems to me to be the main takeaway lesson  ** 
> weeks
> to accumulate **.
>
> As I recall, a few years back, there was a message where Rossi mentioned
> that his supplier in Italy required months to make a batch of active
> reactant. Could it be that Rossi has been inadvertently getting dense
> hydrogen all along?
>
> The presentation of Alan Goldwater was very impressive. I am confident
> that if and when Alan announces thermal gain in a Rossi style reactor –
> we can believe it. That has not happened yet but he is very methodical and
> dedicated. Like many others including myself, he accepts Bob Higgins
> downgraded assessment of the Lugano report (slight gain – perhaps COP~1.2
> see Bob’s white paper).
>
> I encouraged Alan – in light of Olafsson’s presentation - to consider a 
> 2-stage
> or compound system where he would manufacture the dense deuterium
> separately from the reactor where it is to be converted to heat. At first
> he seemed dubious that two steps would be required – in order to merge
> Holmlid’s results with Rossi. But this strategy would allow a very low
> powered continuous laser to accumulate the dense material over time. The
> ideal situation, if one wishes to avoid radiation toxicitym seems to be:
> do NOT to use a fast pulse intense laser to convert dense deuterium into
> heat (this assumes there does exist the radiation-free route to convert
> it to heat).
>
> IMO - It will be very difficult to continuously resupply the dense
> Rydberg matter in situ (in the same reactor it is being burnt in) and not
> see harmful radiation. It can be done at the subwatt level, but those two 
> processes
> are fundamentally in conflict – especially when you get to high power.
>
>

[Vo]:The case for tachyons

[Axil Axil]

see

http://restframe.com/downloads/iccf-18_presentation.pdf

Slide 1 shows that there has been 8 replications throughout the entire
range of LENR reaction types.

This also was the subject for the paper by Jean-Francois Geneste, Airbus
Group.

The production of mesons and their decay produce, muons are a result of
tachyon condensation called hadronization.

See:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon_condensation
Also See:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadronization

The muons seen in the Holmlid experiments is the smoking gun:  a sure
indicator of tachyon condensation.

I encourage all replicators and LENR experimenters to photo plate their ash
as a test for tachyon tracks and resultant LENR activity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRKblAn8lLI

[Vo]:the idea of LENR conservatism plus Info

[Peter Gluck]

Just published, but I hope something very interesting will appear
in the next 1/2 hour:

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/10/oct-22-2015-info-and-about-my-lenr.html

Peter
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com