[Vo]:Technology and LENR, a continuing dispute

[Peter Gluck]

It is this:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/11/08-nov-2015-info-plus-about-future-of.html

For me, Technology has some of the functions of a spirituality

Those readers who are deeply and sincerely interested in the future
of LENR will love/hate what Abd say/what I answer but I hope they will
sympathize with us both'


Differences in opinion attract smart people and repel only those who are
not so (my first aphorism ever)- mis-verified too msny times.

Peter


Peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

RE: [Vo]:Re: Magnetic levitation experiments

[Jones Beene]

Yes, there are a number of interesting things which might clarify whether this 
effect is more than a curiosity. If there is some high frequency, and I see 
what you are talking about on the scope, then it might be able to light a neon 
bulb or CFL.

 

Or maybe an LED attached to spinning cube magnet so that the leads are on 
opposite poles?

 

From: jjam...@gmail.com 

 

Jones, I noticed high frequency transients on videos scope screens at the peaks 
of the traces. I think they are real and may they are electrical interference 
of dc motor (this can be ruled out because they could be present all all 
videos) or result of mechanical ultrasonic ringing of magnet or a related to 
behaviour of Nd magnets when they receive magnetic impulses. I will 
investigating it tomorrow. These transients can be clearly seen on video dated 
Nov. 7.

 

H Ucar

 

-- Original message--

From: jjam...@gmail.com

Date: Sun, Nov 8, 2015 00:54

To: vortex-L@eskimo.com;

Cc: 

Subject:Re: Magnetic levitation experiments

 

 

 

 

No,  it is directly attached to scope having 1 MOhm impededence. OTH, I am 
monitoring the current driving the motor. Sometimes current drops up 8% when 
floating magnet get stablely spinning on the air compared motor running stand 
alone. This not really expected while the extra signifant vibration caused by 
floating magnet interaction. This vibration would normally cause stress on 
rotor and would increase the friction. 

For example 63 mA to 57 mA at 25 V. 

 

H Ucar

 

 

J 

 ones Beene  
 
Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:45:47 -0800

With the pickup coil attached to a load - is there any indication of the ratio 
of P-out to P-in ?

 

 

-- Original message--

From: jjam...@gmail.com

Date: Sat, Nov 7, 2015 20:23

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com;

Cc: 

Subject: Re: Magnetic levitation experiments

 

I added new videos to my playlist.There are scope screens showing 1/2 and 1/3 
speed ratio between base magnet and floating magnet. 1/2 ratio corresponds to 
single cusped and 1/3 to tw o cusped epicycloid laser reflection patterns.

 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3KwdWTgl7fisd3h_tK1YLhFeuzkPATNt

 

H Ucar

[Vo]:The possible LENR reaction occurring in Safire

[Axil Axil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFsTttzh0oA

There is a layer of dark mode hydrogen that accumulates near the surface of
the hydrogen plasma ball in the Safire experiment. It absorbs energy until
it reaches a limit where it erupts. The input power is 1800 watts of DC
power and the power produced during an eruption is 2,000,000 to 10,000,000
watts. There is also signs of a material with a nucleon count of 3 being
produced in the experiment.

A theory that could explain the development of the dark layer is the "Dark
mode" polariton soliton theory. The polariton "Black Hole" absorbs energy
until it reaches a limit whereupon it explodes in a bosenova. There is an
energy storage mechanism in play here and a possible indicator of a Bose
condensate as witnessed by a coordinated release of a huge amount of stored
energy. This is a behavior that would be expected in a system centered on
Dark Mode polariton micro black holes. This behavior is also seen in the
experiments of Holmlid and defkalion among many other LENR experiments.

This theory can be verified by the appearance of K-mesons and its decay
products such as muons and electrons. A particle detector that follows
Holmlid's design might work well in the Safire experiment it show that a
tachyon based nuclear process is happening in Safire.

This Safire experiment looks a lot like the plasmatron, an overunity power
device produced in the 1980's using hydrogen based plasma.

Experimenters in overunity could duplicate the Safire and/or the plasmatron
experiment and test for emissions of sub-atomic particles.

It may be possible to take a sample of the gas from the dark hydrogen layer
and use a photographic emulsion to check for monopole based tachyon tracks
as is commonly seen in many LENR based experiments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT-94c1Q6Ms

[Vo]:Lawrence Forsley, Pamela Mosier-Boss: Condensed Matter Nuclear Reaction Peer-Reviewed Publications

[Alain Sepeda]

I just found on academia.edu a new publication by Lawrence Forsley and
Pamela Mosier-Boss, which present a list of key peer-reviewed CMNS/LENR
papers, and patents, to challenge the usual claim that LENR experimenst are
not replicated, and not peer reviewed.

https://www.academia.edu/17964553/Condensed_Matter_Nuclear_Science_October_2015


I've posted on that document trying to put the emphasis on key sentences...
http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2251-Lawrence-Forsley-Pamela-Mosier-Boss-Condensed-Matter-Nuclear-Reaction-Peer-Revie/#post9283

I hope I did not betray the authors intent...

[Vo]:Faraday to challenge Tesla

[Jones Beene]

New electric car company startup in California is flu$h with ca$h 
http://www.faradayfuture.com/index.html

Rumor is that it is a front for Apple. Where else can they park half a
trillion?

They raided Tesla for top people, but still - I wouldn't bet against Elon.

[Vo]:Re: Magnetic levitation experiments

[jjam...@gmail.com]

Jones, I noticed high frequency transients on videos scope screens at the peaks 
of the traces. I think they are real and may they are electrical interference 
of dc motor (this can be ruled out because they could be present all all 
videos) or result of mechanical ultrasonic ringing of magnet or a related to 
behaviour of Nd magnets when they receive magnetic impulses. I will 
investigating it tomorrow. These transients can be clearly seen on video dated 
Nov. 7.
H Ucar
-- Original message--From: jjamdix@gmail.comDate: Sun, Nov 8, 2015 
00:54To: vortex-L@eskimo.com;Cc: Subject:Re: Magnetic levitation experiments



No,  it is directly attached to scope having 1 MOhm impededence. OTH, I am 
monitoring the current driving the motor. Sometimes current drops up 8% when 
floating magnet get stablely spinning on the air compared motor running stand 
alone. This not really expected while the extra signifant vibration caused by 
floating magnet interaction. This vibration would normally cause stress on 
rotor and would increase the friction. For example 63 mA to 57 mA at 25 V. 
H Ucar

Jones Beene Sat, 07 Nov 2015 13:45:47 -0800With the pickup coil attached to a 
load - is there any indication of the ratio of P-out to P-in ?

-- Original message--From: jjamdix@gmail.comDate: Sat, Nov 7, 2015 
20:23To: vortex-l@eskimo.com;Cc: Subject: Re: Magnetic levitation experiments
I added new videos to my playlist.There are scope screens showing 1/2 and 
1/3 speed ratio between base magnet and floating magnet. 1/2 ratio corresponds 
to single cusped and 1/3 to two cusped epicycloid laser reflection patterns.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3KwdWTgl7fisd3h_tK1YLhFeuzkPATNt

H Ucar

[Vo]:[OT] Cataracts Dissolved

[Terry Blanton]

It's too late for me.  My lenses have been replaced.  Others might benefit soon.

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2015/11/176886/eye-drops-could-clear-cataracts-using-newly-identified-chemical

Re: [Vo]:Faraday to challenge Tesla

[Terry Blanton]

The web page does not have the quality you would expect from Apple.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:
> New electric car company startup in California is flu$h with ca$h
>
> http://www.faradayfuture.com/index.html
>
> Rumor is that it is a front for Apple. Where else can they park half a
> trillion?
>
> They raided Tesla for top people, but still – I wouldn’t bet against Elon.

[Vo]:Re: Re: Magnetic levitation experiments

[jjam...@gmail.com]

Jones Beene wrote:
 
> Or maybe an LED attached to spinning cube magnet so that the leads are on 
>opposite poles?
 
Heh, It would be not difficult to find such a clip on the Youtube :)

Re: [Vo]:Faraday to challenge Tesla

[Blaze Spinnaker]

This is very very good for Tesla.  Elon must be sighing a breath of huge
relief.  This is why he was giving patents away for free.

They need someone else to shoulder the load of creating infrastructure.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:

> New electric car company startup in California is flu$h with ca$h
>
> *http://www.faradayfuture.com/index.html*
> 
>
> Rumor is that it is a front for Apple. Where else can they park half a
> trillion?
>
> They raided Tesla for top people, but still – I wouldn’t bet against Elon.
>

[Vo]:Ubeam wireless charging

[Blaze Spinnaker]

http://techcrunch.com/2015/11/07/wireless-power-charger/

Re: [Vo]:Faraday to challenge Tesla

[Blaze Spinnaker]

i like the team:


On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Blaze Spinnaker 
wrote:

> This is very very good for Tesla.  Elon must be sighing a breath of huge
> relief.  This is why he was giving patents away for free.
>
> They need someone else to shoulder the load of creating infrastructure.
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:
>
>> New electric car company startup in California is flu$h with ca$h
>>
>> *http://www.faradayfuture.com/index.html*
>> 
>>
>> Rumor is that it is a front for Apple. Where else can they park half a
>> trillion?
>>
>> They raided Tesla for top people, but still – I wouldn’t bet against
>> Elon.
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Faraday to challenge Tesla

[Blaze Spinnaker]

China's reponse to tesla:

Incorporation papers filed with the California secretary of state's office
links Faraday to a Chinese media company operated by Jia Yueting, an
entrepreneur who founded Leshi Internet Information & Technology.

Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3307660/Mysterious-firm-backed-one-China-s-richest-men-set-build-billion-dollar-factory-Tesla-Apple-electric-car.html#ixzz3qxvKwywd

Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter
 | DailyMail
on Facebook 

Makes sense.  China has a huge pollution problems.  They also prefer to buy
from natives rather than foreigners.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Blaze Spinnaker 
wrote:

> i like the team:
>
>
>- Nick Sampson, Senior Vice President – Former Director of Vehicle &
>Chassis Engineering, Tesla Motors
>- Dag Reckhorn, Vice President of Global Manufacturing – Former
>Director of Manufacturing, Tesla Model S
>- Alan Cherry, Vice President of Human Resources - Former Senior
>Director, Human Resources, Tesla Motors
>- Tom Wessner, Vice President of Supply Chain - Former Director of
>Purchasing, Tesla Motors
>- Richard Kim, Head of Design – Founding member of BMW i Design and
>Lead Designer, i3 and i8 concepts.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:Faraday to challenge Tesla

[Blaze Spinnaker]

i like the team:


   - Nick Sampson, Senior Vice President – Former Director of Vehicle &
   Chassis Engineering, Tesla Motors
   - Dag Reckhorn, Vice President of Global Manufacturing – Former Director
   of Manufacturing, Tesla Model S
   - Alan Cherry, Vice President of Human Resources - Former Senior
   Director, Human Resources, Tesla Motors
   - Tom Wessner, Vice President of Supply Chain - Former Director of
   Purchasing, Tesla Motors
   - Richard Kim, Head of Design – Founding member of BMW i Design and Lead
   Designer, i3 and i8 concepts.


On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker 
wrote:

>
>
>