RE: [Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?

[Jones Beene]

Wiki has entries which answers most of your questions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosted_fission_weapon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuclear_device

 

Boosted fission is different from the H-bomb in a number of ways, and an 
improvement over fission alone, therefore we can surmise:

 

1)  Since the yield of the recent  NK test was about the same as their 
prior fission test, then it is probably not boosted. 

2)  Since the yield is way too low to be fission-triggered fusion (H-bomb) 
we can eliminate that and all other high yield choices

3)  Add the fact that it is compact, means that there is the prospect of a 
novel design of some type.

4)  Given the features of UDD, assuming Holmlid is correct, then there are 
options which could include Cohen’s claim of a ballotechnic driven fusion 
device (no fission trigger) which was largely debunked

 

From: John Berry 

 

Not sure what you mean by 'boosted fission' but my understanding is that ALL 
Fusion bombs are either Fission-Fusion or Fission-Fusion-Fission.

 

We don't publically have the technical ability to create mass fusion without 
fission first, if we did hot fusion power would be a reality.

 

John

 

a.ashfield wrote:


My secondhand understanding is that many of the weapons the media call H-bombs 
are really boosted fission weapons with a shell of uranium.

 

Re: [Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?

[John Berry]

Not sure what you mean by 'boosted fission' but my understanding is that
ALL Fusion bombs are either Fission-Fusion or Fission-Fusion-Fission.

We don't publically have the technical ability to create mass fusion
without fission first, if we did hot fusion power would be a reality.

John

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:36 PM, a.ashfield  wrote:

> Jones,
> My secondhand understanding is that many of the weapons the media call
> H-bombs are really boosted fission weapons with a shell of uranium.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?

[mixent]

In reply to  John Berry's message of Fri, 8 Jan 2016 12:48:08 +1300:
Hi,

...either that, or a fission weapon that is trigger by a fusion explosion, that
is in itself not triggered by a fission reaction. I.e. Fusion-Fission (if that
is possible).

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:[Vo] ehang 184 flying taxi

[Jed Rothwell]

a.ashfield  wrote:


> Electric motors are quite reliable and it could possibly descend safely if
> one failed.  It is light enough one could even fit a parachute I suppose.
>

Good point. The Cirrus airplane is equipped with a parachute. Their website
says: " In fact, there are 117 people alive today because a Cirrus pilot
pulled the chute in time to avert a tragedy."

http://cirrusaircraft.com/flight-training/caps-training/


You're probably right it would be better to land on tarmac or concrete.  I
> think vertical takeoff and landing is essential for widespread use and then
> the problem of downwash would be common for any such vehicle.
>

I think it does allow vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL). Any helicopter
does.

I think an initial market might be something like shuttle service from the
roof of an upscale hotel to an airport. Mind you, I wouldn't ride in it!

When a new model of a conventional airplane comes out, they use the first
several aircraft to carry cargo rather than passengers. That way if it
crashes you lose only the pilots. They used to do that, anyway. For this
quadcopter gadget, I suggest it would be a good idea to deploy a hundred
machines for short-haul freight operations at companies such as Amazon.
Amazon is developing small drones for delivery to end users. I think it
will be long while before that is possible, especially in urban areas where
there is a tangle of overhead electric and telephone wires. A larger drone
that flies from a depot to a distribution center is more practical. I think
you need a range longer than 10 miles for this. If it only 10 miles you
might as well send a truck, even in Manhattan.

[Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?

[a.ashfield]

Jones,
My secondhand understanding is that many of the weapons the media call 
H-bombs are really boosted fission weapons with a shell of uranium.

RE: [Vo]:[Vo] ehang 184 flying taxi

[a.ashfield]

Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Electric motors are quite reliable and it could possibly descend safely 
if one failed.  It is light enough one could even fit a parachute I suppose.
You're probably right it would be better to land on tarmac or concrete.  
I think vertical takeoff and landing is essential for widespread use and 
then the problem of downwash would be common for any such vehicle.

Re: [Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?

[mixent]

In reply to  John Berry's message of Fri, 8 Jan 2016 12:48:08 +1300:
Hi,
[snip]
>Not sure what you mean by 'boosted fission' but my understanding is that
>ALL Fusion bombs are either Fission-Fusion or Fission-Fusion-Fission.

I believe the term 'boosted fission' is used to refer to Fission-Fusion-Fission.
>
>We don't publically have the technical ability to create mass fusion
>without fission first, if we did hot fusion power would be a reality.
>
>John
>
>On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:36 PM, a.ashfield  wrote:
>
>> Jones,
>> My secondhand understanding is that many of the weapons the media call
>> H-bombs are really boosted fission weapons with a shell of uranium.
>>
>>
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:21% of U.K. energy from renewable sources

[Jed Rothwell]

The North Sea is so shallow that when ship sink miles away from shore, they
end up sticking out of the water. Like this:

http://newstreasure.com/dutch-cargo-ship-sinks-after-crashing-into-gas-tanker/

I believe these ships are sunk as they will go.

- Jed

RE: [Vo]:[Vo] ehang 184 flying taxi

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Two very big problems with this device:

1. It can't autorotate the way a normal helicopter can -- If the power quits 
you're dead.
( That's true of all lift fan devices. )

2. The downwash speed is so great that it would send rocks, sand, grass flying 
everywhere unless there were a very clean paved pad.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US


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From: a.ashfield [mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 6:08 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:[Vo] ehang 184 flying taxi

Looks like a neat design.  I can see some possible problems like the unguarded 
propellers and I wonder about the noise level.  Closest thing
yet to the childhood promise of a flying car.   Needs LENR to give it range.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3387542/The-MEGADRONE-big-carry-passenger-Chinese-firm-says-self-flying-craft-used-smart-taxi.html


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Re: [Vo]:BlackLight Process in Terraforming Applications

[Axil Axil]

Intensity-normalized, superposition of visible spectra of the SunCell
plasma and Sun’s radiation at the Earth’s surface demonstrating that they
both emit blackbody radiation of about 5800-6000K. From the blackbody
curves, the SunCell plasma has the same temperature as the Sun emitting the
same solar spectrum of light but at extraordinary power equivalent to
50,000 times the Sun’s intensity at the Earth’s surface. The implications
are extraordinary. The SunCell plasma has an essentially perfect spectral
match to the Sun.

As in the sun, this shows that the suncell is producing light from a
metalized hydrogen molecule with a graphite structure.

See

http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/01/07/lenr-is-a-fundamental-force-of-nature-axil-axil/

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 8:53 PM,  wrote:

> In reply to  Jack Cole's message of Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:34:39 +:
> Hi,
>
> I don't think this will work. If you apply power to a wind turbine, you
> will
> most likely just create a local vortex that redirects air into itself in a
> form
> of "short circuit". Much as can happen to helicopters when they hover.
> The result is no wide spread air current, and a lot of wasted power.
>
> >Isn't it fun to play with numbers?
> >
> >http://brilliantlightpower.com/blacklight-terraforming-application/
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>
>

Re: [Vo]:BlackLight Process in Terraforming Applications

[Jed Rothwell]

I think desalination is the answer. HOWEVER you have remove all of the
salt, or you pollute the soil. This was a concern many years ago. The water
is okay for human consumption but the salt will build up over time in the
soil.

Advanced methods may be okay. See, for example:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0376738812003808

- Jed

[Vo]:BlackLight Process in Terraforming Applications

[Jack Cole]

Isn't it fun to play with numbers?

http://brilliantlightpower.com/blacklight-terraforming-application/

Re: [Vo]:BlackLight Process in Terraforming Applications

[mixent]

In reply to  Jack Cole's message of Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:34:39 +:
Hi,

I don't think this will work. If you apply power to a wind turbine, you will
most likely just create a local vortex that redirects air into itself in a form
of "short circuit". Much as can happen to helicopters when they hover.
The result is no wide spread air current, and a lot of wasted power.

>Isn't it fun to play with numbers?
>
>http://brilliantlightpower.com/blacklight-terraforming-application/
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

[Vo]:recent comment problem

[a.ashfield]

I commented on "ehang 184 flying taxi 
" and 
left out the : after [Vo]
However you now show my email address (not that I mind for Vortex users, 
but making it available to search bots) and the message does not appear 
directly in Vortex but only in an answer.

Adrian Ashfield

[Vo]:LENR needs relevant information; this issue has some of it.

[Peter Gluck]

My friend Lennart has shown that relevance is the key and the way to the
much desired good LENR Info-base
It happens we have received some really relevant information today

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/01/jan-7-2016-lenr-needs-relevant.html

Peter
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:21% of U.K. energy from renewable sources

[Jed Rothwell]

Lennart Thornros  wrote:

The amount of wind energy in GB has to do with that the Brits have the
> right to a large portion of the North Atlantic and the continental sockel
>

Sockel??? Typo?

Perhaps you mean the North Sea. That is the best place in Europe to put
wind turbines. It is very shallow. I read that turbines in the North Sea
could generate 4 times more electricity than Europe consumes.

- Jed

[Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?

[Jones Beene]

Inspector Clouseau fans may recall the candle .

Several years ago, and this was about the time that the "young-un" took
power, there was a news story about North Korea claiming to have made
advances in LENR. No one took much notice then, and the story seems to have
disappeared from the WWW as run-of-the-mill propaganda. But no one doubts
today that NK has the technology for producing a fission "bombe". In fact,
they have tested several.

Most experts are doubting the claim that the new atomic test was a real
H-bomb since the yield was low. Nevertheless, there is the non-zero
possibility that they were able to come up with a boosted weapon using dense
deuterium. It could be rightfully labeled a hydrogen bomb, even if it
contained no fissile material.

NK did make the claim that the bomb being tested was very compact. In fact a
small weapon using UDD or dense deuterium is more threatening to the USA and
our allies than a convention megaton hydrogen bomb, especially if it does
not demand a fission trigger.

There are several of us here on this forum who have expressed the sentiment
over the years that the extreme and illogical level of "official neglect" of
cold fusion as a technology, despite the obvious fact that it does work on
occasion, goes back to the issue of weaponization (i.e. proliferation) . and
that at a high level in the Pentagon, they probably understood this risk
even before 1989 or shortly thereafter. 

To spell it out, the proliferation risk that few want to talk about is that
a rogue nation like NK will weaponize a part of the technology (especially
the so called UDD or pychno) for less cost than going the uranium route.
kinda like the old "red mercury" spoof but 'zis time, a bit more dramatic.
http://www.petersellersappreciationsociety.com/Sounds/FQuote/PinkPanther3.mp
3

Re: [Vo]:21% of U.K. energy from renewable sources

[Lennart Thornros]

thanks

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros


lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899

Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and
enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:17 PM,  wrote:

> In reply to  Lennart Thornros's message of Thu, 7 Jan 2016 11:35:09 -0800:
> Hi Lennart,
> [snip]
>
> Try "Continental shelf" in English. ;)
>
>
> >Sorry Jed poor or only half translated :)
> >Part of the North Sea is relatively shallow. It is an extension of the
> >European continent. Thus it could be called the base for Europe GB etc.
> >It is known as a base (socket) thus the poor translation.
> >As it is in the North Sea it is windy and there is no more fish to catch
> so
> >energy is the name of the game:)
> >
> >Best Regards ,
> >Lennart Thornros
> >
> >
> >lenn...@thornros.com
> >+1 916 436 1899
> >
> >Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and
> >enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Jed Rothwell 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Lennart Thornros  wrote:
> >>
> >> The amount of wind energy in GB has to do with that the Brits have the
> >>> right to a large portion of the North Atlantic and the continental
> sockel
> >>>
> >>
> >> Sockel??? Typo?
> >>
> >> Perhaps you mean the North Sea. That is the best place in Europe to put
> >> wind turbines. It is very shallow. I read that turbines in the North Sea
> >> could generate 4 times more electricity than Europe consumes.
> >>
> >> - Jed
> >>
> >>
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>
>

Re: [Vo]:21% of U.K. energy from renewable sources

[mixent]

In reply to  Lennart Thornros's message of Thu, 7 Jan 2016 11:35:09 -0800:
Hi Lennart,
[snip]

Try "Continental shelf" in English. ;)


>Sorry Jed poor or only half translated :)
>Part of the North Sea is relatively shallow. It is an extension of the
>European continent. Thus it could be called the base for Europe GB etc.
>It is known as a base (socket) thus the poor translation.
>As it is in the North Sea it is windy and there is no more fish to catch so
>energy is the name of the game:)
>
>Best Regards ,
>Lennart Thornros
>
>
>lenn...@thornros.com
>+1 916 436 1899
>
>Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and
>enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)
>
>
>On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
>
>> Lennart Thornros  wrote:
>>
>> The amount of wind energy in GB has to do with that the Brits have the
>>> right to a large portion of the North Atlantic and the continental sockel
>>>
>>
>> Sockel??? Typo?
>>
>> Perhaps you mean the North Sea. That is the best place in Europe to put
>> wind turbines. It is very shallow. I read that turbines in the North Sea
>> could generate 4 times more electricity than Europe consumes.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

[Vo]:A new explanation of why sodium explodes in water

[H Veeder]

This story may have been posted before. The research is interesting on
three levels. 1) It showed that the standard explanation that every
chemistry student is taught is wrong. Second it showed that amateur
scientists can contribute to the advancement of science by professional
scientists. Third it provides an example of coulomb explosions which have
sometime been mentioned in the context of LENR.

High speed camera reveals why sodium explodes!
​ (24;58 min)​

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmlAYnFF_s8

Same youtuber has also investigated a related phenomena which he thinks has
still not been adequately explained.

Invisible metal
​ (5:26 min)​

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIGMfai_ICg



Harry