Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mats Lewan is quoted: > << > ​...​ > I have been in contact with people with insight into the MW report, that > hopefully will get public this summer as part of the lawsuit, and they told > me that based on the contents, the only way for IH to claim a COP about 1 > (that no heat was

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: The trail will cut through the FUD, > You mean the trial. Rossi has already cut through the FUD in the interview. His numbers tell you there is no excess heat. His refusal to allow access to the customer site tells you he is running a scam. Rossi has

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Axil Axil
The trail will cut through the FUD, On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > a.ashfield wrote: > > Jed "As I said, there is clear evidence of that: Rossi refused to let >> anyone see the customer site. You have that from Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: Jed "As I said, there is clear evidence of that: Rossi refused to let > anyone see the customer site. You have that from Rossi himself." > > AA. It seems this was the agreement written by IH before the test began. > 1. Rossi himself in the interview

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread a.ashfield
Jed "As I said, there is clear evidence of that: Rossi refused to let anyone see the customer site. You have that from Rossi himself." AA. It seems this was the agreement written by IH before the test began. 1. Sebastian May 20, 2016 at 4:50 PM

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread H LV
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Lennart Thornros wrote: > >> No Jed I do not know the results. >> > The results are quoted by Rossi right here in the interview! What do you > mean you do not know them? You can't read? > >

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > You still do not give actual figures nor cover the unknowns. > Rossi gave the figures, in the interview with Lewan. If you don't believe him, you don't believe me, and you don't believe I.H. . . . Who *do* you believe? As I said, I am not free to

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, You still do not give actual figures nor cover the unknowns. I think it better to wait before coming to a conclusion, but you have already made your bed. ff the output really was zero you are saying Rossi, his team, Penon and the customer have all engaged in fraud.

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: AA. That is still not enough. What was the actual temperature (just over > 100C doesn't hack it), what was the pressure, was there a steam trap or > other device to take out the condensate? > I can only say that the answers prove there cannot possibly

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread a.ashfield
Jed. "The results are quoted by Rossi right here in the interview! What do you mean you do not know them? You can't read? Daniel Rocha did the analysis of the numbers from the interview. He showed the temperature is just above 100°C. The data sample provided by Rossi to Lewan, to me and to

Re: [Vo]:Relationship between Slow neutron capture cross section and neutron spallation energy

2016-05-20 Thread Stephen Cooke
Very interesting link too, I'm just reading it. Are you based in the Netherlands by any chance? Sent from my iPad > On 20 mei 2016, at 23:40, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: > > In reply to Stephen Cooke's message of Fri, 20 May 2016 12:04:22 +0200: > Hi, > [snip] >> Is there a relationship between

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Daniel Rocha
Mats does know how to do calorimeter calculations. He is an applied physicist, that should be imprinted on his mind. I think that it is highly unlikely that he did a mistake in calculation. It's much more likely that he is just lying or that he has a completely different set of data.It is possible

Re: [Vo]:Relationship between Slow neutron capture cross section and neutron spallation energy

2016-05-20 Thread Stephen Cooke
Thanks Robin, > On 20 mei 2016, at 23:40, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: > > In reply to Stephen Cooke's message of Fri, 20 May 2016 12:04:22 +0200: > Hi, > [snip] >> Is there a relationship between the cross-section for slow neutron capture >> in particular nuclei and the nucleus excitation

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros wrote: > No Jed I do not know the results. > The results are quoted by Rossi right here in the interview! What do you mean you do not know them? You can't read? Daniel Rocha did the analysis of the numbers from the interview. He showed the temperature is

Re: [Vo]:Relationship between Slow neutron capture cross section and neutron spallation energy

2016-05-20 Thread mixent
In reply to Stephen Cooke's message of Fri, 20 May 2016 12:04:22 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Is there a relationship between the cross-section for slow neutron capture in >particular nuclei and the nucleus excitation energy needed in the nucleus to >cause neutron spallation? > >For example B10 has a

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
No Jed I do not know the results. I know not to spout firm controversial judgment. the without support. I am sure you know. I am less sure of you judgment, based on your vague bak up of your statements On May 20, 2016 17:29, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > Lennart Thornros

[Vo]:We owe Steven Kirvit an applogy

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Znidarsic
His analysis and vision was much clearer than anyone had expected. Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield wrote: > I have not seen any convincing proof from you either. > It is RIGHT THERE in the statements Rossi made in the interview! I don't need to give you anything. Do the numbers. The temperature is just at boiling. There is no steam. He himself is bragging

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros wrote: > Jed, if I had nothing I should say nothing. > Vague data and very mean conclusion. > There is nothing vague about it! Rossi's own numbers show the temperature of the fluid is just above 100°C. That is his own data, in the Lewan interview. What more

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, if I had nothing I should say nothing. Vague data and very mean conclusion. There is no win in that behavior regardless of if you are right or wrong. Just reflects back on you. On May 20, 2016 16:45, "a.ashfield" wrote: > Jed, > I have not seen any convincing proof

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, I have not seen any convincing proof from you either. “That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.”

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros wrote: > But Jed, if you have the data why do you advice me to ask Rossi instead of > just sending them. > Because I am not free to share everything yet, obviously. You don't need anything more from me. Look at the numbers from Rossi and the analysis from

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
But Jed, if you have the data why do you advice me to ask Rossi instead of just sending them. On May 20, 2016 15:16, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > Lennart Thornros wrote: > >> Show me and the all Vortex and we might just agree. >> > Show you what? You

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros wrote: > Show me and the all Vortex and we might just agree. > Show you what? You don't believe what Rossi said to Lewan? He said that the I.H. expert insisted, but he did not allow it. From that alone it is clear he is running a scam. You don't even

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
Show me and the all Vortex and we might just agree. Just sitting there telling a bunch of smart people how it is makes no sense. Show it. On May 20, 2016 14:34, "Jed Rothwell" wrote: > Lennart Thornros wrote: > > Jed, just one reason one proof is

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros wrote: Jed, just one reason one proof is more reliable than another. > Because you believe? > No, because the data shows it. > If IH is in control they would come free . . . > I.H. is not in control. As Rossi said in the Lewan interview, the I.H. expert

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, just one reason one proof is more reliable than another. Because you believe? If IH is in control they would come free and not gossip their findings. Tell me one reason they should not. Do not say lawsuit as it is on the contrary if they have solid ground. On May 20, 2016 13:53, "Jed

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread David Roberson
This situation seems to be following the theory that the heat is generated throughout the volume of the material while it escapes through the surface area of that mass. Volume varies as the cube of the linear dimension while surface area is proportional to the square. With this thought in

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros wrote: No, it is not real proof, but it is far better reasoning than IH reason to > not pay only has one explanation ; the ecat does notwork. > Perhaps I.H. has many reasons, but the the reason they gave is that the e- cat does not work. There is no

[Vo]:starting to discuss cultural history of LENR

2016-05-20 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/05/may-20-2016-toward-cultural-history-of.html Plus some information.. Please have empathy for me! Thank you Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Daniel Rocha
He would have to live in a place where he would not be extradited and make sure he can use the money. So, he'd probably have to run away carrying some kind precious metal, to make sure he wouldn't have problems with a closed bank account. 2016-05-20 12:24 GMT-03:00 Lennart Thornros

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
Yes, Bob I think business climate is important. I have not been so impressed by Swedish business climate in the past, but it has some advantages to the US systems particularly the government and the universities are only part of the equation. The Royal academy of science and similar organization

[Vo]:Other types of Crtical Mass

2016-05-20 Thread Jones Beene
"Critical mass" is a broader concept than its familiar usage in nuclear fission. In that context, CM relates to neutron multiplication past a threshold level - but the concept is qualitatively more than just a subset of "positive feedback." There are also other contexts for critical mass, in the

Re: [Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook wrote: > As he mentioned on his blog several times, he was preparing numerous > patents for something—the Quark X IMHO. When this came out IH got upset I > would imagine. They decided that they would not pay the extra $89M for > only the E-Cat IP license.

[Vo]:Re: Anyone can "steal" IP from a patent

2016-05-20 Thread Bob Cook
Eric-- Yes. I agree that Agreement language is broad. I read it several times. I would note that the key to the scope of what is involved is the term “which relates to E-Cat IP.” The definition of the E-Cat IP comes out in the first “Whereas” in the Agreement. As you have noted it

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: CONTRIBUTION FROM V. VYSOTSKII, NEW DISPUTE GENERATOR LAUNCHED<,

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha wrote: What I had in mind that, since this is a close loop, nearly at 100C, it > might become a self regulating mechanism, pressure rises, less steam is > formed, pressure decreases, more steam is formed, pressure rises, and so on. > Sure. That sounds

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: CONTRIBUTION FROM V. VYSOTSKII, NEW DISPUTE GENERATOR LAUNCHED<,

2016-05-20 Thread Daniel Rocha
And it keeps the transfered energy mroe ore less constant. Water has a lower speed in tubes, so more heat exchanging surfce. 2016-05-20 10:59 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > It kind of eases explosion issues if some reactors have run away reactions. > > 2016-05-20 10:57

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: CONTRIBUTION FROM V. VYSOTSKII, NEW DISPUTE GENERATOR LAUNCHED<,

2016-05-20 Thread Daniel Rocha
It kind of eases explosion issues if some reactors have run away reactions. 2016-05-20 10:57 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > What I had in mind that, since this is a close loop, nearly at 100C, it > might become a self regulating mechanism, pressure rises, less steam is >

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
H LV wrote: 2.5 lbs of powered nickel offers a great deal of surface area for heat of > adsorption. Also the nickel powder had been sitting in a vacuum before the > hydrogen gas was added so this would further enhance the adsorption of > hydrogen. > Yes. This is what I

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: CONTRIBUTION FROM V. VYSOTSKII, NEW DISPUTE GENERATOR LAUNCHED<,

2016-05-20 Thread Daniel Rocha
What I had in mind that, since this is a close loop, nearly at 100C, it might become a self regulating mechanism, pressure rises, less steam is formed, pressure decreases, more steam is formed, pressure rises, and so on.

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > Now that you mention it, and realizing how enticing/dangerous it would be > to a certain segment of the population . . . > We have seen crazy stunts with thermite and other energetic materials on > YouTube. In a worst case, we are talking about something

[Vo]:Ecat

2016-05-20 Thread Chris Zell
Forgive me if this was covered in this lengthy saga but I recall wondering about past photos of a tube reactor glowing red and yellow. At the time, I recall some discussion about the gauge of the wire being insufficient to account for the heat emitted. Of course, in the Photoshop Era such

Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: CONTRIBUTION FROM V. VYSOTSKII, NEW DISPUTE GENERATOR LAUNCHED<,

2016-05-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha pointed out something important: > So, we have that an amazing coincidence 1MW (~70kW + ~930) is nearly > *exactly* what is needed to vaporize the flux in the circuit. . . . > Or, if the temperatures are slightly overestimated, or there is a bit more

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread H LV
2.5 lbs of powered nickel offers a great deal of surface area for heat of adsorption. Also the nickel powder had been sitting in a vacuum before the hydrogen gas was added so this would further enhance the adsorption of hydrogen. harry On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:39 PM, David Roberson

[Vo]:p and B11 colliding beam fusion

2016-05-20 Thread Stephen Cooke
Has this paper already been looked at here? apologies if it has. http://w3fusion.ph.utexas.edu/ifs/ifsreports/919_wong.pdf The resonance proton cross-sections and proton beam energies in the 100's of keV range look interesting to me.

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread Alain Sepeda
AFAIK this kind of reaction is regularly observed by accident in various similar situations. ;-) most don't know they see LENR. they just see they have to redo all again. 2016-05-19 22:53 GMT+02:00 Jones Beene : > Dave, > > You are not alone – few know of this incident.

Re: [Vo]:Details of the Thermacore runaway in 1996

2016-05-20 Thread Jack Cole
Yes, all good reasons to carefully consider the safety of such an experiment. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:52 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Now that you mention it, and realizing how enticing/dangerous it would be > to a certain segment of the population, the hope is that no one

[Vo]:Relationship between Slow neutron capture cross section and neutron spallation energy

2016-05-20 Thread Stephen Cooke
Is there a relationship between the cross-section for slow neutron capture in particular nuclei and the nucleus excitation energy needed in the nucleus to cause neutron spallation? For example B10 has a high neutron cross-section. Is there s relationship between this and the energy needed for