[Vo]:go far beyond anything that our history gives us the capability to conceive... Ben Goertzel at Future of MInd Symposium at The New School NYC: Rich Murray 2016.12.01

[Rich Murray]

go far beyond anything that our history gives us the capability to
conceive... Ben Goertzel at Future of MInd Symposium at The New School NYC:
Rich Murray 2016.12.01
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2016/12/go-far-beyond-anything-that-our-history.html


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http://phys.org/news/2016-12-day-ideas-future-mind-illuminates.htm

One day, many ideas: Future of Mind 2016 illuminates NYC (Part 1)

December 1, 2016 by Stuart Mason Dambrot

(Phys.org) — The shape that human cognition may take over the coming next
half-century has become increasingly difficult to foresee.
Moreover, accelerating advances in science, mathematics, computing, and
culture –
including Artificial General Intelligence, Machine Consciousness, Synthetic
Creativity, Mind Uploading, Exocortical Cognition, and other ever-more
exotic ideas –
have dramatically transformed the very conception of what we refer to as
mind.

Following the Human Level AI Conference 2016, and sponsored by Humanity+
and The New School, the one-day Future of Mind Symposium 2016 held at The
New School in New York City –
moderated by Dr. Ben Goertzel (Humanity+) and Prof. Ed Keller (The New
School) –
delved into this brave new space through interactive dialogs between expert
panelists and audience members.

The conference began with introductory remarks from the moderators, during
which Goertzel said
"One thing I've gotten more and more respect for as I've done more things,
learned more things and explored more possibilities is how completely
ignorant we are about the real nature of mind and of reality…. I've become
more and more convinced that as we build intelligent engineered systems, as
we upgrade our brains with technology, as we become more and more networked
together on the planet between human beings, synthetic biological systems,
engineered computing and communication systems – as all this advances we're
going to understand that mind and intelligence and the self-organization of
matter go far beyond anything that our history gives us the capability to
conceive."

In the first Morning Session panel, Cosmo Harrigan, Natasha Vita-More, Amy
Li, and (by videolink] Peter Watts discussed The Future of the Individual:
AGIs, Cyborgs, Uploads, and… in which they addressed the "epistemological
horizons of the individual and collective mind, and rethinking the ethics
and politics of mind beyond individual or gender."

Harrigan – a cross-disciplinary internet entrepreneur and researcher in
deep reinforcement learning – reviewed what he described as "a rich variety
of methods" that could lead to human-analogous Artificial General
Intelligence, including traditional symbolic systems based on logic and
reasoning; biologically-inspired systems; and those that start with a
mathematical formalism and work towards approximating a universal
intelligence.

Founder of Dance4Healing and a partner for Stanford Cancer Supportive Care
Program, Li is leading the trend of telehealth into physical rehabilitation
space. Rooted in neuroscience, Dance4Healing is a social platform
connecting dance teachers to patients, using artificial intelligence and
behavior design to recommend personalized music and dance, dance buddies
and patient groups based on real-time emotion and health data, alleviating
mental and physical pain, and improving quality of life – including a
profoundly beneficial effect on cancer, dementia and other serious health
problems.

Vita-More, Chair of Humanity+, Program Champion of Graduate Studies at the
University of Advancing Technology, and author in the areas of humanity's
future, emerging technologies, and radical life extension – and whose
breakthrough research demonstrated post-vitrification (that is, after
exiting a state in which living cells are cooled to cryogenic temperatures
without using ice) memory recovery in C. elegans – stressed the importance
of being involved in legislation because, she noted, it defines "the rules
that govern us and sets the stage for our future."

Watts, a biologist and award-winning science fiction author – whose novel
Blindsight has become a core text in diverse undergraduate courses ranging
from philosophy to neuropsych, and is said to have found its way into
neuroscience laboratories – presented an unsurprisingly iconoclastic
neuroscience-based view of on consciousness focused on the brain's
self-organizing, self-directed learning capabilities.
"The brain is really good at reconfiguring itself….It doesn't really matter
whether or not you crack the secret of consciousness, it doesn't matter if
you can precisely mimic the corpus callosum" – a 10 cm-long flat bundle of
nerve fibers that connects the brain's right and left hemispheres.
"To paraphrase Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park, our brains will find a way.
Give them an interface, and chances are they'll figure it out on their own."

During the panel discussion, a contested topic was whether or not an AGI
could, 

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[Peter Gluck]

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Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

[Jed Rothwell]

 wrote:

Regarding Robin’s observation, cardiologists may not like such a long life
> device since it would reduce the market supply of people needing periodic
> operations.
>

No, no, no, NO! Never. Implanting a pacemaker or changing one out is a
serious operation. It usually works okay, but no ethical doctor would want
to do it just for the money. Cardiologists do not like to kill or disable
patients. This is like suggesting that a doctor would deliberately infect
someone to extend a hospital stay, or cause a difficult birth that required
a Cesarean.

(No doubt there are a few criminally unethical doctors who do things like
that.)

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

[Jed Rothwell]

It is a shame you cannot easily recharge batteries in the body. Heart
Venticular Assist Devices (VAD) are all powered by a physical connection to
the outside of the body. I suppose that must be a awkward, and a source of
infection. See:

http://www.mylvad.com/content/what-lvad-how-does-it-work

http://www.heartware.com/sites/default/files/uploads/docs/ifu1_rev_15.pdf

Of course these things take much more power than a pacemaker.

Artificial hearts have not be successful, but VAD are similar and they are
effective. In some cases, VAD have apparently helped the patients' hearts
recover and improve their function, I guess by reducing the burden of work.

- Jed

RE: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

[bobcook39923]

Higgins is correct IMHO.  The heart battery charger should utilize existing  or 
slightly modified NMR machines to focus an oscillating magnetic field on an 
internal permanent magnet oscillator which can move within a conductor and 
create an internal source of current.  Forget about using RF penetrating EM 
radiation.  

Regarding Robin’s observation, cardiologists may not like such a long life 
device since it would reduce the market supply of people needing periodic 
operations.  Opposing this rationale I have heard the idea that getting inside 
the chest and checking the equipment out results in more reliable performance.

The same argument (get inside to check things out ½ way through reactor life)  
was used for naval nuclear reactors early on.  I just read recently that the 
Navy brass is changing that design philosophy to produce reactors that will go 
the life of a ship—40-50 years—after nearly 65 years of reactor design and 
operating experience.   I doubt that the rest of the ship will last that long 
without overhaul or al least major changes in weapons.  
   
I think that the old design advice, “if the wheel works don’t fix it,” is 
probably ok for naval reactor design.

As to David’s comments about nuclear waste, I agree that the expense is high 
and the safety of storage is high and the safety is unconsciously poor in many 
cases.  The best solution IMHO is storage in Yucca Mountain in self-shielded 
ductile iron casks of about 100 tons that will fit on special rail cars for 
transport to Yucca Mt.  

As LENR gets a foot hold in the world’s energy production, those old die-hards, 
who want the eventual use of Pu-239 and other hard to handle isotopes, will be 
gone.   Yucca Mountain can be closed up along with the other nuclear test holes 
and mountain test sites nearby.  The one problem with this solution is that 
intrusion by future non-technical people would be easy, if institutional 
government controls fail in the future.  However,  this issue is no different 
than the same institutional control problem associated with hazardous waste 
disposal sites containing heavy metals and organic waste, both a major concern 
to health and safety of future, non-technical generations and the environment.

Bob Cook
.   

From: Bob Higgins
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:40 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

This is possible, but it would require a close coupling via low frequency 
magnetic fields.  Think of it as a hockey puck placed over the pacemaker 
implant area for a period of hours.  The human body is well modeled as a 
container of salt water.  In fact, when we were creating RF models of the human 
body, the dummy was nicknamed, "Salty".  The water is a highly ionic, highly 
conductive, high dielectric (Er~80) fluid.  This causes a skin impedance that 
is highly reflective of RF - most of the EM fields are substantially reflected. 
 Magnetic fields will penetrate, but propagating EM fields have a fixed ratio 
of electric/magnetic field intensity given by the free space impedance of 277 
ohms.  Near field evanescent fields close to the source may have a different 
ratio, allowing the magnetic field intensity to be higher which will penetrate 
into the body (the hockey puck radiator).
Most of the local AC fields are E-fields and these are highly reflected by the 
body's conductive nature and do not penetrate.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:11 PM,  wrote:
In reply to  Bob Higgins's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:41:32 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
I have often wondered why pacemakers can't have a built in transformer secondary
and rectifier so that all one has to do a be adjacent to the primary for a while
in order to recharge the internal battery ("air" core transformer). Perhaps they
could even be powered by the stray AC fields in your average dwelling?
[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

[Bob Higgins]

This is possible, but it would require a close coupling via low frequency
magnetic fields.  Think of it as a hockey puck placed over the pacemaker
implant area for a period of hours.  The human body is well modeled as a
container of salt water.  In fact, when we were creating RF models of the
human body, the dummy was nicknamed, "Salty".  The water is a highly ionic,
highly conductive, high dielectric (Er~80) fluid.  This causes a skin
impedance that is highly reflective of RF - most of the EM fields are
substantially reflected.  Magnetic fields will penetrate, but propagating
EM fields have a fixed ratio of electric/magnetic field intensity given by
the free space impedance of 277 ohms.  Near field evanescent fields close
to the source may have a different ratio, allowing the magnetic field
intensity to be higher which will penetrate into the body (the hockey puck
radiator).

Most of the local AC fields are E-fields and these are highly reflected by
the body's conductive nature and do not penetrate.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:11 PM,  wrote:

> In reply to  Bob Higgins's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:41:32 -0700:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> I have often wondered why pacemakers can't have a built in transformer
> secondary
> and rectifier so that all one has to do a be adjacent to the primary for a
> while
> in order to recharge the internal battery ("air" core transformer).
> Perhaps they
> could even be powered by the stray AC fields in your average dwelling?
> [snip]
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>
>