Re: [Vo]:Did you hear the one about the lawyers who withdrew?

2017-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Is this in response to: "Perlman, Bajandas, Yevoli & Albright, P.L.’s Motion to Withdraw as Counsel for Plaintiffs, Andrea Rossi and Leonardo Corporation" http://coldfusioncommunity.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/0292.0_PBY-A_for_Rossi_withdrawal.pdf That's routine biz. Rossi's lawyer moved to a

[Vo]:Did you hear the one about the lawyers who withdrew?

2017-05-09 Thread Jones Beene
Why does the Bar prohibits sex between lawyers and their clients? That was the start of an old lawyer joke. The punch line used to be: "To prevent clients from being billed twice for essentially the same service." But now we seem to be seeing a new twist... client screwing the attorney? In F

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > You seem to be making a couple of questionable assumptions, not the least > of which is that the flow rate of tap water will remain stable over a long > time period - in fact it can vary significantly in many locales. > Not in my experience. I have tested this in many places.

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Jones Beene
You seem to be making a couple of questionable assumptions, not the least of which is that the flow rate of tap water will remain stable over a long time period - in fact it can vary significantly in many locales. We're talking about Eastern Europe, no? The plumbing may go back to the kingdom o

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > Using water, instead of a heat transfer fluid makes no sense to me, given > the history of LENR and especially the duplicity of Rossi which is looming > over everything these days. > He is using tap water. That is simple and cheap. He does not need a pump. When you open a fau

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Bob Higgins
Jones, I believe the system he has designed is for heating his house. I imagine it is to feed conventional radiators as would a conventional home heating boiler. It is not designed as a test vehicle for someone to measure. I mentioned the scale because it can be used to measure mass change vs.

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Bob, No argument that MFMP should not attempt to change anything on their own initiative. This is about the inventor and his motivation. Any mention of a gram scale indicates that they will be measuring steam production, which means that phase change is going to be a systemic and unnecess

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Bob Higgins
I am only peripherally involved in these tests - I will not be on site. My understanding is that more than one flow meter will be taken (one may be embedded in a separate heat measuring system) and they are bringing a gram accurate scale capable of up to 100kg that will be used as part of flow met

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Higgins wrote: > The reason one could never rely on a test made of Rossi's device is not > because there was steam, it was because he never allowed a public test with > independent well prepared testers using their own equipment for evaluation. > Yup. As Rick Smith pointed out, the enthalpy

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Axil Axil
MFMP is using this flow meter on the cold water side http://www.heattracing.co.uk/sub-product-details/sensus-pollucom-e-heat-meter On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Axil Axil wrote: > > As I understand the MFMP testing process... >> >> The flow of water will be set throug

[Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Bob Higgins
Jones, In making a "black box" test, one cannot readily change the system control of what is inside the black box. One must be prepared to measure the black box as it is designed to work. If that means water in and steam out, then that is what must be measured accurately. MFMP does not want to be

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: As I understand the MFMP testing process... > > The flow of water will be set through the heat exchanger to insure that > the input water flow into a bucket is equal to 60C. The weight of the water > will be recorded and then dumped whereby the filling of the bucket will > start

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Axil Axil
As I understand the MFMP testing process... The flow of water will be set through the heat exchanger to insure that the input water flow into a bucket is equal to 60C. The weight of the water will be recorded and then dumped whereby the filling of the bucket will start another cycle. The total vo

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > Well that's not exactly true... there is an overlooked detail here which > should be clarified . . . If me356 can make it work, he must know something no one else knows. No one can make Ni-H produce 8 kW out 1 kW input. If me356 can patent his method, even if it is very si

Re: [Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Jones Beene
Jed Rothwell wrote: At LENR Forum a mysterious person calling himself "me356" claims that he replicated Rossi... the other day he said he is no longer using nickel because of "patent considerations." That is absurd. There are no viable patents relating to Ni-H cold fusion, and even if there w

[Vo]:MFMP plans to verify claims made by "me356"

2017-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
At LENR Forum a mysterious person calling himself "me356" claims that he replicated Rossi. He claims to have a multi-kilowatt reactor that produces many times more than input. I have not been paying close attention because he refuses to publish technical details. My policy is to ignore such claims.