Re: CMNS: Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Brian Ahern's message of Tue, 30 Jan 2018 22:54:07 +: Hi, There is another point here too. IIRC a mass spec works by ionizing a particle then measuring the mass to charge ratio. A deep level D2* molecule has an ionization potential in the tens of kV, so is unlikely to be detected

[Vo]:Re: Has the theory of relativity ever been applied to electromagnetic fields?

2018-01-30 Thread Harvey Norris
Question: When does the message arrive before the sending of it, viewed from the past history?  Or maybe I got that methodology wrong but the way things here on yahoo sometimes work is they omit the sending message to recipients, but then they allow the seemingly censored info to go through as

Re: CMNS: Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-30 Thread Brian Ahern
Good point! Thanks for the clarification of my mis-calculation. From: mix...@bigpond.com Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:58 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CMNS: Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries In reply to

[Vo]:Has the theory of relativity ever been applied to electromagnetic fields?

2018-01-30 Thread Harvey Norris
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Re: CMNS: Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Brian Ahern's message of Tue, 30 Jan 2018 12:24:09 +: Hi, [snip] >I did not mean to discredit Mel's work. I am sure it was well done, but it is >difficult to measure 100mWatts of excess energy when Gerald Pollack says that >amount of energy can simply be stored in the water from

Re: [Vo]:Physicists just found a loophole in graphene that could unlock clean, limitless energy - ScienceAlert

2018-01-30 Thread Nigel Dyer
I agree about Pollack, indeed I have him to blame for my interest in LENR. I agree that there may well be a closer link between LENR and Jerry's exclusion zone ideas.  Indeed, that lies behind the neutrino ideas that I posted here a month or so ago. Nigel On 30/01/2018 17:04, Brian Ahern

Re: [Vo]:Physicists just found a loophole in graphene that could unlock clean, limitless energy - ScienceAlert

2018-01-30 Thread Brian Ahern
Pollack is amazing.His work is uncomfortable for the old guard to incorporate into their world view. CF/LANR should face his observations since they are both looking at effects in liquid water at low electric fields. From: Nigel Dyer

Re: [Vo]:No mass !?! Dirac electrons

2018-01-30 Thread Brian Ahern
The forces are different by 10*36, so comparisons are impossible to measure. From: John Berry Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 3:54 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:No mass !?! Dirac electrons >From the patent... "a free

Re: [Vo]:Physicists just found a loophole in graphene that could unlock clean, limitless energy - ScienceAlert

2018-01-30 Thread Nigel Dyer
I tend to think that his ideas on this specific aspect, the formation of 'exclusion zones' at the surfaces of blood vessels may also be an important factor, and that the two effects may well work in tandem. On 30/01/2018 12:27, Brian Ahern wrote: see gerald pollack for the flow issue.

Re: [Vo]:Physicists just found a loophole in graphene that could unlock clean, limitless energy - ScienceAlert

2018-01-30 Thread Brian Ahern
see gerald pollack for the flow issue. From: Nigel Dyer Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 2:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Physicists just found a loophole in graphene that could unlock clean, limitless energy - ScienceAlert

Re: CMNS: Re: [Vo]:Science does sometimes reject valid discoveries

2018-01-30 Thread Brian Ahern
I did not mean to discredit Mel's work. I am sure it was well done, but it is difficult to measure 100mWatts of excess energy when Gerald Pollack says that amount of energy can simply be stored in the water from background illumination. The lack of ionizing radiation is a great hurdle to

Re: [Vo]:No mass !?! Dirac electrons

2018-01-30 Thread John Berry
>From the patent... "a free electron has inertial mass but not gravitational mass." and "Thus, a free electron is not gravitationally attracted to ordinary matter. " Really? Can that really add up? Pretty sure this is not very much in agreement with conventional theory. John Berry On Tue,