Re: [Vo]:Oak Ridge enriching isotopes again

[mixent]

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Wed, 13 Mar 2019 20:23:02 + (UTC):
Hi,
[snip]
>Yep - all those tons of pure silver are still "on loan" from Ft. Knox, but 
>they have become too activated to send back... and in the event they make 
>Ni-62 for LENR, they become the taxpayers contribution to the effort.

I fail to see why they would need pure Ni62 for LENR. If the LENR reaction is
Ni62 specific, it should be capable of selecting the Ni62 out of plain Ni
without any help.


[snip]
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Oak Ridge enriching isotopes again

[Jones Beene]

 The "Calutron" in the pic is basically a mass spectrometer on steroids - 

...originally designed for enriching the uranium to make the first bomb. 

The massive magnetic coils were made out of many, many tons of pure silver ! 

...that's because during the War years when they were built, copper was needed 
for munitions and in short supply.
And the silver bullion was essentially "free." 

Yep - all those tons of pure silver are still "on loan" from Ft. Knox, but they 
have become too activated to send back... and in the event they make Ni-62 for 
LENR, they become the taxpayers contribution to the effort.


bobcook39923 wrote:  
 
Well what do you know Joe?

 
 
It suggests they are looking for butter for their bread at ORNL.

 
 
Bob Cook
 From: Jones Beene  Ni-62 is available once again, claimed to be useful for 
nuclear transmutation into copper...

... as well as for salting a reactor...


ORNL's enriching isotopes again

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ORNL's enriching isotopes again

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RE: [Vo]:Oak Ridge enriching isotopes again

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Well what do you know Joe?

It suggests they are looking for butter for their bread at ORNL.

Bob Cook

From: Jones Beene 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:44:13 AM
To: Vortex List
Subject: [Vo]:Oak Ridge enriching isotopes again

Ni-62 is available once again, claimed to be useful for nuclear transmutation 
into copper...

... as well as for salting a reactor...


ORNL's enriching isotopes 
again







ORNL's enriching isotopes again

Carolyn Krause/Special to The Oak Ridger

Oak Ridge National Laboratory will once again be producing an array of nearly 
pure, stable, nonradioactive isoto...

RE: [Vo]:Thorium-salt reactor starts up.

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Axil suggests:

“ If they pull it off, it might just help usher in a safer future for nuclear 
power.”.

I  doubt it.

Bob Cook



From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 6:17:11 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Thorium-salt reactor starts up.

I order to get the thorium to burn, either U235 or Pu239 must be included in 
the fuel load. But to comply with Nuclear regulatory agency rules, only 5% or 
under U235/Pu239 concentration must be maintained. This means that almost 95% 
of the fuel load must be U238.  This fuel load generates mostly Pu239 with a 
small amount of U233 that comes from thorium breeding.

This makes Thorium a minor additive to a uranium breeder reactor. But molten 
salt is a good idea. The best application of the molten salt reactor is the 
pebble bed version designed by Dr. Per Peterson, IMHO. The salt keeps the 
radioactive dust from the pebbles under control.

https://kairospower.com/technology/


Now that LENR is working, this is all horse and buggy  tech.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 8:19 PM H LV 
mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://www.technologyreview.com/the-download/608712/a-thorium-salt-reactor-has-fired-up-for-the-first-time-in-four-decades/?fbclid=IwAR2UXaco_FNvQq6WTJdBR60hc7IAhW-cmLK0Ivtgk0dg0uRe5XGck8OzphY

A Thorium-Salt Reactor Has Fired Up for the First Time in Four Decades

The road to cleaner, meltdown-proof nuclear power has taken a big step forward. 
Researchers at NRG, a Dutch nuclear materials firm, have begun the first tests 
of nuclear fission using thorium salts since experiments ended at Oak Ridge 
National Laboratory in the early 1970s.

Thorium has several advantages over uranium, the fuel that powers most nuclear 
reactors in service today. First, it's much harder to weaponize. Second, as we 
pointed out last year in a long read on thorium-salt 
reactors, 
designs that call for using it in a liquid form are, essentially, 
self-regulating and fail-safe.

The team at NRG is testing several reactor 
designs
 on a small scale at first. The first experiment is on a setup called a 
molten-salt fast reactor, which burns thorium salt and in theory should also be 
able to consume spent nuclear fuel from typical uranium fission reactions.

The tests come amid renewed global interest in thorium. While updated models of 
uranium-fueled power plants are struggling 
mightily
 to get off the ground in the U.S., several startup companies are exploring 
molten-salt reactors. China, meanwhile, is charging ahead with big plans for 
its nuclear industry, including a heavy bet on thorium-based reactors. The 
country plans to have the first such power plants hooked up to the grid inside 
15 years. If they pull it off, it might just help usher in a safer future for 
nuclear power.

RE: [Vo]:Evidence of Solar Storms

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

I wonder if nuclear power plant safety analyses have considered magnetic storms 
and backup electrical power for reactors around the world.

I would bet they do not consider seismic events caused by strong magnetic 
storms coincident with the need for backup power during a world wide accident 
scenario.

I hope  continued operations of those   backup systems use chips unaffected by 
strong magnetic fields.  Magnetic shielding for those systems is probably a 
farce, given the uncertainty of conditions that may occur, for example,  high 
shock and vibration mechanical loads,  magnetic forces on ferro magnetic 
materials, the influence of water, etc., etc., etc.


Fukushima considered a sumami and an earth quake as isolated (separate) events. 
 Look what happened.

Its like the FAA allowing continued operations of 737 max aircraft to operate 
in the US, somehow ignoring the fact that there has been TWO fatal chrashes of 
this type of aircraft in the last 6 months, both chashes having the same take 
off and nose down scenario.

These design- basis- justified decisions, ignoring common sense failure modes,  
shows how fraudlent they are IMHO.  Beware of stistical based risk assessment.  
The devil is in the details—the design basis assumptions.

Bob Cook



From: H LV 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:29:59 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Evidence of Solar Storms

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 Worse yet, the world has become far more dependent on electricity since the 
Carrington Event, and if a similarly powerful geomagnetic storm were to hit 
now, power outages might last weeks, months or even years as utilities struggle 
to replace key parts of power grids, the 2013 study found>>

https://www.livescience.com/64964-huge-ancient-solar-storm-hit-earth.html

[Vo]:Oak Ridge enriching isotopes again

[Jones Beene]

Ni-62 is available once again, claimed to be useful for nuclear transmutation 
into copper... 

... as well as for salting a reactor...


ORNL's enriching isotopes again

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ORNL's enriching isotopes again

Carolyn Krause/Special to The Oak Ridger

Oak Ridge National Laboratory will once again be producing an array of nearly 
pure, stable, nonradioactive isoto...
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